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jammie82uk

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  1. England boss Thomas Tuchel: 

    "You can see in the selction we chose nine defenders for four positions, seven midfielders for three positions. 

    "The idea is to stick with this formation. 

    "Adaptation comes naturally in the defensive approach. There are so many formations on the other side. It should be flexible to adapt our defensive approach. 

    "Will we change our structure? We will try to stick with what makes us strong and we have a clear idea we have the key players in the position to make a difference. 

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  2. 25 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

    Southampton fans on their forum thinking they are being stitched up by Middlesbrough lmao

    Strange folk, How have Middlesbrough done that? Think this explains everything, Southampton originally denied it and only being helpful once they knew they was caught out

     


     

    The six-point deduction was mitigated to four points to reflect the available mitigation, including the Respondent's acceptance of the charges, co-operation (although it is not accepted that this was unqualified) and their proffering of information in relation to the OU Incident and IT Incident although we accept that they were on notice from the initial letter of 8 May that the EFL were investigating another incident and so these admissions were not entirely unprompted). We did not consider that a financial sanction was required in addition.

     

    A financial penalty, as proposed by the Respondent would not be effective at this stage in the competition since the financial rewards on offer for a team which is promoted to the Premier League through the PlayOffs would render any penalty meaningless. Perversely this may act as an incentive for clubs to breach Regulation 127 and pay the fine in an effort to increase the chance of promotion.

     

    In addition to the sporting sanctions a reprimand is considered appropriate in the present case because of the way in which junior members of staff were put under pressure to carry out activities which they felt were, at the least, morally wrong. Such staff were in a vulnerable position without job security and with limited ability to object to, or resist the instructions given to them.

  3. 3 hours ago, Manwell Pablo said:


    And they’ve been docked four points for those. 
     

    You could take them off this season if you wanted, and what would happen? They’d be playing Middlesbrough in the play offs, so no different outcome. better they come off next season. 
     

    Just people trying to take a slightly complicated situation and use it their own end. The correct outcome is the one the EFL have come up with. 
     

     

    I understand that, my point was more towards that are we going to believe they only did it 3 times? And that the 20 game unbeaten run is a complete coincidence that it happened between the 1st time they spied on an opponent and the 2nd time they spied on an opponent

  4. 7 minutes ago, Manwell Pablo said:


    On what grounds should they be replayed. 
     

    Wrexham have no case at all, they finished nine points behind Southampton. 
     

    You didn’t have teams screaming for the whole of the first round of the fa cup to be replayed when Barnsley were thrown out. 
     

    The protocol for teams thrown out of a ko competitions is one of the things consistently applied in football around the world, the defeated team goes through. Seen it in everything before, the play offs, the fa cup, AFCON, and on this “big team” conspiracy even Real Madrid have been thrown out the Copa Del Rey. 

    But not all charges was for the knockout competition, obviously we don’t know for certain yet but the fact that Southampton went on a 20 game unbeaten run between two of the confirmed spying incidents certainly raises a few questions 

  5. 33 minutes ago, Wymsey said:

    Albeit a different situation altogether, wait until the conclusion of Man City's charges..

     

    They'll probably have a massive fine/a transfer window can and that's it.

    It doesn’t matter what is thrown at Man City the worse outcome for them is missing European football for a season unless a points deduction is 60 points or more then they might be in trouble, a monetary fine or a transfer ban won’t affect them much 

  6. 45 minutes ago, David Hankey said:

    For a so-called 'Big Club' you have to ask why has it taken them 22 years to win the title?

    The same way it took Liverpool 30 years to win the title again when they won it in 2020 

    Man Utd haven’t won it for 13 years 

    Chelsea haven’t won it for 9 years 

     

     

     

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  7. 1 hour ago, MrSpaM said:

    I don't think they would have allowed the tickets to go on sale to Middleborough fans if they had any though that they would allow Southampton to play in the final again

    Although it was a known option nobody really expected for Southampton to be removed hence the tickets being put on sale for their supporters 

  8. 31 minutes ago, 21st Century Fox said:

    A cynic might say they also admitted to doing it before a loss and a draw to prove they gained no material benefit and lessen the punishment. Bollocks did they suddenly stop between December and April.

    Especially when they had a 20 odd game unbeaten streak in that period 

  9. 3 minutes ago, JimJams said:

    Why would Boro have had all this time?  They've only just been reinstated.  They're gonna be calling players back from Dubai and 'Beefa!

    The players have not gone anywhere, They have carried on training incase this happens 

  10. This is so messy, teams could change again for Saturday depending on appeal, kick off time of 16:30 has also been removed, if Southampton remain kicked out then Middlesbrough have 48 hours to make arrangements for Saturday’s game 

     

    Southampton has a right to appeal the Commission’s decision in accordance with EFL Regulations and the parties are working to try and resolve any appeal on Wednesday 20 May. Subject to the outcome, it could result in a further change to Saturday’s fixture.

    The EFL is now in discussion with all three Clubs regarding the implications of today’s decision and will make a further announcement in due course.

  11. 1 minute ago, Bert said:

    Wow. This is going to start all sorts of appeals. 

     

    1 minute ago, Bert said:

    Although it seems like they’ve accepted it and start on -4 next season. 

    They can only appeal against the severity, what a mess as Southampton have been selling tickets since last week alongside with Hull, so refunds needed and Middlesbrough have 3 days to sell their tickets and for fans to make arrangements 

  12. 2 hours ago, 21st Century Fox said:

    Southampton have found out their punishment today. It hasn’t been released yet, they just sent an intern with a glass pressed up against the independent disciplinary commission’s door.

    Southampon have been removed from the final 

  13. 2 hours ago, hebangsthedrums said:

    Ha didn't realise they had done that, no longer being a ST holder..

    I haven’t brought anything from the club shop in a few years so don’t know when it was changed but I noticed it on the STH benefits towards the end of last season 

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