Wasyls Pec Deck

I’m not convinced by this appointment, but I don’t think we should automatically write him off straight away. I don’t think that’s helpful. He talks a good talk, but can he deliver. If I get a sense of him being demanding and driving standards - like he says - then I think he could be what we need. For too long the culture around the place has stunk, and my hope is that he can change that. 

2 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

Just burst out laughing at this:

 

"Russell will be supported by a football structure focused on alignment, accountability and high standards."

They’ve picked words from the FT supporter survey - simple as that. Hilarious 

Just watched 10 mins of platitudes, but if he can deliver what he says then he’ll be a miracle worker.

My only hope is that he gives a rocket up so many that have been able to coast for years.

This appointments just so lacks imagination and it’s so predictable. And we carry on this bizarre obsession with Southampton… I think he’s come across as a pillock elsewhere, but I’ll give him a go and want him to succeed like any manager. I just don’t think he will. Oh and get ready for a Smallbone 😂 

Ian AImondroyd

GAIry Coatsworth

8 hours ago, kingfox said:

Interesting comments from a BBC article on his time at Rangers.

 

Didn’t do him much good, but seems he can change when he’s practically shitting himself.

The fact Martin has moved away from the philosophy he has stuck by for so many years perhaps illustrates just how much pressure he is under at Ibrox.

In the last two league games, he has adopted a 4-2-3-1 shape with summer signings Aarons and Rothwell absent. In front of the defence sits a more positionally strict and industrial midfield duo.

Martin would typically ask his full-backs and attacking midfielders to get up the pitch, overloading the midfield and wide areas in attack, but in recent games there has been a reluctance in committing players to attack.

In build-up, Tavernier still forms a back three with the centre-backs but there is more support centrally from the midfield. The keeper and defenders have been more willing to punt it up the pitch, too.

These appear to be pragmatic changes that stray away from a Martin side.

Looking at the league data before and after the Club Brugge loss highlights how stark the change in style has been.

You have to take into account the quality of the opposition, but possession is down from 70% to almost 50%, with Rangers spending longer defending deeper and there has been an increase in how often they have gone long.

They are also facing fewer shots and the plan appears to have been put in place to solidify the team in the face of conceding big chances.

It is, however, hindering their attacking play, with the amount of shots they are taking per game almost half of what they were achieving previously.

I think you’ve written this with invisible ink!

Not wholly season ticket related, but how long until LCFC are putting garbage like this out on social media?

Haha so heading closer toward League One income streams then. What could possibly go wrong? 

I’ve seen links to Will Smallbone on a free if Martin becomes manager. As far as I’m concerned, irrespective of if he’d he a good signing at this level, we must avoid him at all costs as I’ve spent years taking the piss out of him based on spurious rumours of his teeny weeny.

Are we convinced this is a done deal now then? For as many ‘stories’ (in the loose sense of the word) that say it’s edging closer, there are other just as reputable clowns say it’s not. 

Has it even been officially announced yet that Rowett is leaving? Concious I may have missed it as been enjoying not monitoring the goings on a the club.

24 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

According to Wikipedia he has two older brothers, Jamie and David, and a younger brother, Pepe…… makes sense.

And don’t forget Ricky who is livin’ da vida loca

Just now, chesterfox said:

This is a never-ending nightmare, isn't it? They genuinely seem to be doing everything that we all cannot grasp.....and yet over 22k season ticket renewals. 

So they say…

First home game of the season “Russell Martin, what a willy puller, what a willy puller” coming from the Kop 😂 

Also will the archaic season ticket points/

/categories change on account of - in theory - having less season ticket holders in the higher categories? 

Anyone going to post photos of empty stands? 

1 hour ago, SemperEadem said:

It is wild how many **** up’s are made there.

When your boss isn’t around, who gives a ****?

14 minutes ago, Wasyls Pec Deck said:

Calculating a response rate based on leaflet distribution is misleading. I did the survey as I saw it promoted on social media and emails etc and I didn’t get a leaflet. It was distributed in ways that weren’t controlled, but as you would expect. Ultimately it’s not possible to calculate a response rate, but we do know that the overall level of participation is very strong. 
 

Also most of the sample are not FT members so this idea it’s the views of one group is not right either - if the club use that to criticise they are mistaken. Going over the findings it would seem to me that the sample reflects the views of a mostly long term, experienced and committed fan base from various factions and with different engagement/ticketing behaviour. There are many signs of this all having really good breadth and legitimacy.

 

Those who developed the survey did consult with individuals and, by extension different groups, in respect of the survey design. With surveys you only get data on the questions you ask, and it seems to me the engagement in terms of what was asked was also fairly robust. Also other groups did publicise the survey and push it. I’m not sure what else they could have done!

Also I’m not sure it’s right or helpful to criticise all this for not coming from all the groups. It sort of assumes there is no overlap between the groups in terms of individuals and views. I noted one of the lads on the reveal on YouTube is also in UFS for example, and do we have any evidence that each group has significantly different views? If anything, I think at this point views are all pretty unified!

58 minutes ago, ian__marshall said:

I watched the results presentation last night live and did hear the details. For the record my views are not to be interpreted as criticism. The survey is an unbelievable undertaking and as others have mentioned the sample size is absolutely a strong indicator of fan sentiment in my view. 

 

However, seeing the response from the club, has not surprised me. Yet again I have little faith that they will embrace the feedback and hold themselves to account. Rather they'll shrug off the results and take minimal action citing misalignment of views following consultation with other groups. 

 

I wholeheartedly agree that the sample size is significant and cannot be ignored. However, to say that other supporter groups were alerted to the survey, and yes some of their members may have completed the survey, is not the same as saying they were consulted on their views, and they collaborated with the Trust to fully endorse the survey and stand behind the results lending their name to the outcomes presented. 

 

I would also agree that statistically given the number of leaflets distributed, a near 30% response rate is towards the higher end. But it's all about perspectives and the lens through which each party views the results. You and I will see this as a great response and a true representation of fan sentiment, the club on the other hand will likely argue that the sentiment portrayed isn't as strong as suggested if two thirds chose not to engage, regardless of the statistical significance. 

 

I appreciate the efforts of those involved, everyone is doing a good job especially as it's voluntary work taking up personal time. I would  personally like to thank each individual for trying to create change; it's important given the current state of the club. I just think that there will be learnings on this journey and it's important that they are considered moving forwards to avoid giving those at the club who are accountable for listening and affecting change any excuse to dismiss or reduce the significance of the information put before them.

 

Calculating a response rate based on leaflet distribution is misleading. I did the survey as I saw it promoted on social media and emails etc and I didn’t get a leaflet. It was distributed in ways that weren’t controlled, but as you would expect. Ultimately it’s not possible to calculate a response rate, but we do know that the overall level of participation is very strong. 
 

Also most of the sample are not FT members so this idea it’s the views of one group is not right either - if the club use that to criticise they are mistaken. Going over the findings it would seem to me that the sample reflects the views of a mostly long term, experienced and committed fan base from various factions and with different engagement/ticketing behaviour. There are many signs of this all having really good breadth and legitimacy.

Those who developed the survey did consult with individuals and, by extension different groups, in respect of the survey design. With surveys you only get data on the questions you ask, and it seems to me the engagement in terms of what was asked was also fairly robust. Also other groups did publicise the survey and push it. I’m not sure what else they could have done!

I was there and it was my 10th birthday. I wish I remembered half as much as you @urban.spaceman as I recall almost nothing! 😢 

8 hours ago, Stuntman_Mike said:

They have started giving tickets away, my wife is a nurse and has been sent an invite. 

 

Hilarious 😆 

2 minutes ago, fazzyfox said:

And what of the All-Stars you mentioned? 

Pathetic isn’t it. Embarrassing even. Like don’t bother.

Wow there’s some absolute gold in this thread!

2 hours ago, whitlock said:

Who are you expecting to be announced?

 

The list of players who can be apart of this game is kind of set in stone. I get the want for Vardy, Mahrez, Kante etc. but clearly the players who were part of the squad are going to be used too.

Gokan Inler preferably.