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Well I’m glad that’s cleared up then, ****ing idiot

This making members?

16 hours ago, inckley fox said:

Nigel Pearson. Who was nearly sacked - partly because of sections of the fanbase irrationally hating him - at least 4 times in his second spell (the one that led to us going up, staying up and, one year later, winning the league). And don't get me started on O'Neill. At least the fans managed 12 games then before throwing bricks. Also ex-Forest, wasn't he? And neither of them were pin-up material, or previously successful at the level we were playing at.

 

It'd be good to see what getting behind the team and seeing the positives for once could achieve, instead of this blanket negativity. If that fails in 5, 6 or 7 games time, then fine. But some people here seem to enjoy trying to make sure that this can't work out. If it goes wrong, with everyone pulling in the right direction, we'll know soon enough. We're way, way short of a disaster at the moment, and so long as we're a bit more on the ball than we were under Rodgers, we'll have every chance of staying up.

What’s this nonsense yet again with the forest connection? Only ever mentioned by people backing cooper. And as for backing the team, Walsall was the first game I’ve not done due to being away, the team have more than been supported in each game. Wobble that head please son

13 hours ago, inckley fox said:

So training games count? In that case we should have fired O'Neill after every pre-season. And given Taylor and Levein eight year contracts.

They count towards him getting the message to the players and working out who is best players are, which he hasn’t done because he’s a clueless clown

10 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

Because the majority of the squad was not there for 12 games, only 5, and then not even complete until the last game.

Not excusing, but let’s not make it worse than it is.  

The majority of the squad have been there, but even if they werent he’s not changed anything or

shown any signs of improving anything. I’m fact I’d argue he’s lucky spurs didnt thump us or he’d be right up against it now

1 hour ago, inckley fox said:

I don't think that's clear at all. The sources aren't great. And it's hardly a surprise that players who are either sidelined or encouraged to do things they'd prefer not to are feeling disgruntled. If that's even true.

 

What is true is that there's an immense groundswell of determination among fans that Cooper shouldn't be manager. I have plenty of my own concerns, but when most of the complaints are based on five games of largely inconclusive evidence, and then a whole load of fairly personal hatred directed at the manager, it doesn't seem like the stuff you base major decisions on.

 

There is a serious danger here of fans effectively making sure that this doesn't work out by creating an atmosphere of untenable negativity. If we sacked him in the next 2 or 3 games and went down, I wonder if they'd accept that their rush to judgement had played a major part in that. I ask this because there are plenty of people out there suggesting that anyone who says that five or six games isn't enough time - which is more or less the accepted wisdom in football - is complicit in our downfall. I hope they accept the same responsibility, then.

 

Especially bearing in mind that we've rarely moved this early in a season to change something. Under Taylor, it wasn't early enough - but only because he'd gone on a record run of awful form late in the previous season. We already had ample cause to want him gone. Under Allen, we sacked him and got relegated. Under Sousa, he had longer than 5 games and was rock bottom in the second tier after we'd finished 5th in the same league the season before.

 

Sacking Cooper would not be comparable. Maybe you think we need to act faster because we didn't under Rodgers, but we went down then not because we didn't act after 5 games - when we probably would have descended into even greater chaos - but because we didn't act after 15, 20, 25 games when, it turned out, we still had plenty of time to change things. And on top of that, five games into that season things were far, far worse in 22/23 than they are now.

Not reading all that but why do people keep saying 5 games? He’s had 12 games in charge and I’ve seen no signs of improvement since that crappy Shrewsbury game

11 minutes ago, Viva said:

Lots of what you have said are natural in a team that's not winning matches. It's not going to be as happy a camp as it was when we won virtually every game in the first half of last season. 

- I can't remember Mavididi ever playing with a smile on his face.

- Justin did a similar interview towards the end of last season ender Enzo.

- It's natural Vestergaard isn't happy not being in the team. 

- I would hope some of the leaders in the team like Coady and Winks are having a go at players not doing their job correctly

- Faes needs to accept where the manager wants to play him and crack on!

 

Stephy always had a spring in his step and looked happy apart from when he had a bad run, he’s playing well now and looking

totally dejected.

being unhappy at not playing and falling out with the manager are 2 different things.

winks going mad every game is because the players aren’t on the same hymn sheet. Managers fault. 
 

faes story probably not a lot into it as only played left once if I remember correctly 

3 minutes ago, Chico1958 said:

Walsall 3rd in League One. They've won 5 of their 7 games. They're no mugs.

 

We were their League Cup Final at their Place.

 

Their First Team nearly beat our Subs apart from Ward that is. 

 

Don't get me wrong it wasn't pretty, But the Team that plays against Arsenal got a rest and it showed us we don't have the strength in depth that other Premiership Teams will have.

 

It's not Coopers fault he's been dealt a poor hand, at least he had the balls to sit at the table and is prepared to play on. 

 

Our Last Forest Manager only Won 3 of his first 16 games which led to Crowd Demonstrations after Sheff Utd beat us.

 

Like I've said before, we haven't taken a hammering (Yet) get real people, the Guy along with the Team needs help and our support and he'll have mine until the inevitable happens. 

 

 

 

We do support the team, not our fault cooper is out of his depth

31 minutes ago, MPH said:

There will be some manager movement after England appoint a permanent head coach that MIGHT include us.

Cooper for England? 😂😂😂

5 minutes ago, Paninistickers said:

What itks?

 

Coz they post  👀?

 

Since I’ve been reading this site there’s been at least 1 poster and possibly another who was clearly getting inside info but were hounded off because others think the football world is like playing football manager

3 minutes ago, SafewayFox said:

That was what I meant when saying the inverted winger….Cooper’s tactics in essence (basic level compared to your detailed analysis) is that we want two number 10’s behind our striker with us forfeiting a winger for a full back.

 

My anger with this is last season our wingers were our biggest and most consistent attacking threat.

 

That’s been replaced with offensively awful FB’s. HOW can Cooper say he watched all of our games last season and come to that conclusion.

 

It angers me and makes any defence of Cooper inexcusable in my eyes.

The Everton game was interesting on the winger front as JJ pushed up 2nd half and had lots space, yet it was clear the players had instructions to go left at all times and ignore the right and JJ

What a load of nonsense

2 minutes ago, SecretPro said:

We genuinely have a capable squad in the right hands. That's the saddest thing.

Easily have a good enough squad to survive, but just look at the body language of some of them players tonight, they are being ruined

Just **** him off and rudkin for sanctioning this. Act now, not 1 sign of improvement since Shrewsbury 

27 minutes ago, Lako42 said:

It's a very old building so can't say i'm surprised. That rain was not normal. 

said it was the 4th time this summer it'd done it

27 minutes ago, RoboFox said:

Haven't been in there since it was the Polar Bear. It's forever been a bit run down. Thought it was still part of a pub group, mind - sounds like they haven't invested much in it.

the lad did say what chain had it but can't remember

not my last pint but was anyone in the bowling green after the game on saturday? had to dive in there about 6.30 when it started pissing it down. poor fellas have been sold a dead duck, roof is ****ed and had rain water pissing through the light fittings and down the walls. never seen anything like it

3 minutes ago, splinterdream said:

i think many of us knew deep down it wasn't going to work. My Forest supporting in-laws said to me of the appoinment "he'll get the King Power ljke a fortress, he'll get the fans onside and the place rocking".

I replied that i don't think he'll get the chance because he's already up against it because of his association with Forest, it feels like we have their reject, so unless he performs miracles, the fans will turn on him very quickly. furthermore, winning the PSR case hasn't done him any favours because we feel we could do better.

It was a mistake by the club and although they won't bite the bullet now, it can only be a matter of time unless Cooper pulls one massive rabbit out of the hat. 

nothing to do with any forest connections (yet a****inggain) 

4 minutes ago, MattFox said:

People talking about Helicopter Gestures are going to be in for a shock when we play Forest on a Friday night right near the anniversary 

mate, i couldn't give a flying **** about it, otherwise i'd have grassed and filmed them, i was just interested if anyone else saw as pretty sure a female copper was watching them

just out of interest, was I the only person who saw the 3 blokes doing helicopter stuff at the end of the game?

get rid of the moron now, he's stinking out the place, utterly clueless

due to boring reasons i won't go into I watched the game a lot more sober than i usually do as only had 3 pints before the match. it was painful

what was weird JJ having a role of pushing up the right but we never passed the ball out that way, and that's before we talk about not targetting their left back who's almost as old as santa claus 

21 minutes ago, Cadno'r Cymoedd said:

This forum is increasingly like a nursery. 

you try watching that dross each week because the manager is clearly inept and clueless

10 hours ago, DennisNedry said:

Atmosphere today was so desperately poor.

 

L/K is pretty much entirely dead now. It's been deteriorating for a decade or so but today was amongst the worst I've ever seen it. The drummer was flogging a dead horse trying to get something going but to no avail. 

 

UFS too small to be heard by the time you get half a stand away from them.

 

Sad times.

They’ll go mad…

decent in p block but that was it, didnt hear anything from the rest of the ground. Everton fans lucky I ain’t a grass as well doing helicopter signs at the end

this bit made me laugh

"Away stewarding – LCFC stewards who travel with fans to away games have no jurisdiction once they are in the ground. They can only observe, provide advice to away fans, and to home stewards if it is sought. They cannot actively intervene in stewarding situations."

so what jurisdiction do these little bum lickers have outside of the ground