lookwhaticando Posted 28 October 2006 Posted 28 October 2006 Transgender MP in toilet fracas An Italian opposition MP and former showgirl has expressed outrage after meeting a transgender colleague in the parliament's ladies' toilets. Ms Luxuria is Italy's first transgender MP Elisabetta Gardini, spokeswoman for former PM Silvio Berlusconi's party, said she felt ill after the encounter during a break in Friday's session. The incident led to heated debate about which toilet the transgender MP, known as Vladimir Luxuria, could use. Ms Luxuria says she has been using ladies' toilets for years. Using the men's would have created even bigger problems, she said. The matter has now been passed to parliamentary procedural officials to resolve. 'Sexual violence' Ms Gardini said she had been horrified to find Ms Luxuria in the toilets. Ms Gardini is an ally of Silvio Berlusconi "It never entered my mind that I'd find him in there", she said. "It felt like sexual violence - I really felt ill." Centre-right MPs backed her call for the creation of a third "transgender" toilet, Reuters news agency said. But ruling coalition deputies accused Ms Gardini of discrimination tantamount to racism. Ms Luxuria said she had not expected such aggression in the parliament. Born Wladimiro Guadagno, Ms Luxuria wears women's clothes but has not had sex-change surgery. A 40-year-old former drag queen and prominent gay rights activist, she was elected MP for the Communist Refoundation, a member of Prime Minister Romano Prodi's centre-left coalition, in April. Who'd have thought one single transsexual could cause such a fuss?
lcfcalan Posted 28 October 2006 Posted 28 October 2006 Who'd have thought one single transsexual could cause such a fuss? I think this really is taking the PISS
lookwhaticando Posted 29 October 2006 Author Posted 29 October 2006 I think this really is taking the PISS Taxi for Alan.
DanTheFoxBhoy Posted 29 October 2006 Posted 29 October 2006 I think this really is taking the PISS Here's your coat.
Guest Posted 30 October 2006 Posted 30 October 2006 Who'd have thought one single transsexual could cause such a fuss? Don't mean to be pedantic, but if he hasn't had an op yet, isn't he just a transvestite? In which case he should use the gents.
cisono Posted 30 October 2006 Posted 30 October 2006 Don't mean to be pedantic, but if he hasn't had an op yet, isn't he just a transvestite? In which case he should use the gents. Hmm perhaps they should have toilet attendants frisk toilet users (also to ensure no weapons are worn) and direct them to the correct set of toilets
Guest Posted 30 October 2006 Posted 30 October 2006 Hmm perhaps they should have toilet attendants frisk toilet users (also to ensure no weapons are worn) and direct them to the correct set of toilets Are you volunteering?
lookwhaticando Posted 30 October 2006 Author Posted 30 October 2006 Don't mean to be pedantic, but if he hasn't had an op yet, isn't he just a transvestite? In which case he should use the gents. Good point, I guess, but you have to wonder how one particular person could be so perturbed by this encounter - did she walk in on 'her' (him) or was she just offended because she knows already that she's (he's) transgender? If she walked in on 'her' and discovered all was not as one would expect, you could understand why she felt a bit iffy afterwards... but if she's thinking about 'her' as transgender without actually seeing anything, it's a different story. Don't they have private cubicles in Italian toilets?
Guest Posted 30 October 2006 Posted 30 October 2006 Private cubicles or not, a bloke using the ladies is not right. Having said that, I have been forced into using the gents twice. Once at the Atletico Madrid game where they refused to open up the ladies, and once at Highfield Road where the queue for the ladies went round the front of the stand by some considerable distance. I was not the only one, but I wouldn't condone it.
Daggers Posted 30 October 2006 Posted 30 October 2006 Gents public toilets should be banned. They are not nice places to be, whatever your sex.
lookwhaticando Posted 30 October 2006 Author Posted 30 October 2006 Gents public toilets should be banned. They are not nice places to be, whatever your sex. Is that before or after George Michael has visited?
cisono Posted 31 October 2006 Posted 31 October 2006 Are you volunteering? Nope :pinch: Someone else might enjoy that kind of job though!!!
Head Honcho Posted 31 October 2006 Posted 31 October 2006 Don't mean to be pedantic, but if he hasn't had an op yet, isn't he just a transvestite? In which case he should use the gents. I thought they all used the same toilets on the continent anyway.
cisono Posted 31 October 2006 Posted 31 October 2006 I thought they all used the same toilets on the continent anyway. "On the continent" is quite a big place
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