Zeitgeist II

[Flynny]

The original Zeitgeist was a pretty standard conspiracy buff film in three parts, firstly 'exposing' the many similarities between the Jesus legend and multiple other ancient deities, most of which stem from Egyptian zodiacal worship. The 2nd part was 'The WTC's were no accident!'. The 3rd part was more complex, beginning with an explanation of the US federal reserve and ending with the suggestion that much of what we see in the world today is controlled by a few international banking corporations whose ultimate aim is a one world government with every citizen electronically tagged.

It's all really, REALLY tenuous but at the same time strangely entertaining in the same way Chandler's posts were.

Now Zeitgeist II is out and I'm struggling to mock it in quite the same way. It presents the most compelling anti-corporate, anti-monetary arguments I've ever sat through, and what it suggests seems to sit quite well with what we've seen recently in economics, namely the recession. It's weird though, which is why I've 'FAO Thracian'd' it, because it paints right across political knee-jerk reactions. Like I said, much of the start says that capitalism (as well as communism and other market systems) are inherently bad, which would traditionally have much of the right and centre spluttering into their cornflakes (or something). The second half, whilst less impressive and a bit wishy washy, presents an alternative, technologically dominated system of being. The bit that caught my attention was a guy's suggestion that instead of 'the state' outlawing drink driving, there would be no state, and a technological solution to a weaving, badly driven car would be sought. Leftist ideas are traditionally state-enforced. Uh oh.

I really want to know what other people think of it. I'm by no means convinced but I'm somewhat impressed.

[BoneDog]

I watched a few videos about 3 years ago that talked about an upcoming orchestrated global economic crisis. All that they said is unfolding right now. It's freaky stuff.

[Webbo]

I only saw the first 20 minutes because my computer is incredibly slow at the minute. The film maker seems to be espousing the theories of the right wing economist Milton Friedman, a sort of extreme version of Thatcherism. Theories I'm not unsympathetic to.

However while mentioning the increase in national debt and inflation since 1913 he fails to mention the massive increase in living standards since then too.

Imo, while what the guy says in theory is correct, practically there is no alternative to the status quo.

[Flynny]

I only saw the first 20 minutes because my computer is incredibly slow at the minute. The film maker seems to be espousing the theories of the right wing economist Milton Friedman, a sort of extreme version of Thatcherism. Theories I'm not unsympathetic to.

However while mentioning the increase in national debt and inflation since 1913 he fails to mention the massive increase in living standards since then too.

Imo, while what the guy says in theory is correct, practically there is no alternative to the status quo.

The end of it attempts to posit an alternative - it's a bit wishy washy.