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Another Part of Leicester's Heritage disappears.....

By davieG, in General Chat

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Edmund

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Running for office wouldn't make any difference because these are party political decisions so unless you can persuade a whole party with all it's vested interests, not always in line with voters interests to change you're buggered.

I could never belong to a political party that would determine the way I voted on individual policy my conscience wouldn't allow me to.

Well it would at least be more constructive than just complaining about it constantly. You never know until you try.

It seems that the majority agree with Valerenga so surely in a democratic society if you all were in the same frame of mind it shouldn't be a problem getting a peer into office.

I know it's easier said than done but I have no other ideas (without strapping yourself to a bulldozer) how you will stop the changes which are out of your reach.

davieG

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Well it would at least be more constructive than just complaining about it constantly. You never know until you try.

It seems that the majority agree with Valerenga so surely in a democratic society if you all were in the same frame of mind it shouldn't be a problem getting a peer into office.

I know it's easier said than done but I have no other ideas (without strapping yourself to a bulldozer) how you will stop the changes which are out of your reach.

Well as I said a lone voice will have no effect, well thousands of protesters didn't.

Lillehamring

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Correct.

Fairplay to you and there is nothing wrong with reminiscing on where you use to live but if your so passionate and really feel angry by the changes, you should be on the first flight back to England and running for council. At the end of the day we can reminiscent and complain all we want on the forum but fook all will get done. People slag the council off at every opportunity but I don't see why they don't try running for office if they think they can do better.

as davieG says being on the council makes no difference, when i was in leciester i took on ross wilmott a couple of times via the medium of the mercury letters page and the BS he came out with was shocking, well it was like Ultra times 100... misdirection, hiding behind questionable statisctics and just general childish insults... the thing is i'm past hoping that anything will get done as far as preservation/historical pride in leicester, but i hope that by sharing images such as the unquestionably fine K&W building that the younger folk in leicester will see something that moves them to question what is happening around them.

I think the reason why you're getting these reactions is because it's becoming a little bit tedious now. The constant threads slagging of every decision the council make (not saying I agree with them). The constant comparison between Leicester and great European cultural cities. etc

i see your point, all i can say is draw a comparison with the way people like thrac and marbella dave 'criticise' the city team - it's not slagging of for the sakes of negativity, it's frustration at knowing it could/should be better, I love leicester and just believe it deserves better than the council have provided

We all know Leicester isin't the greatest and were no Cambridge but I can name you just as many parts of Leicester which still keep their heritage. Take stoneygate for example.

Leicester will change wether you like it or not and maybe you don't agree with these changes and thats fair enough but you have to move with the times. If not then run for council and stop these changes yourself.

My beef isn't so much with what has gone, i understand that somethings can be improved, my issue with the council is that so often they don't see ways of incorporating the old into the new, and that so often what is built to replace something attractive and historic, has for many years now been of the lowest imaginable standards. Wouldn't it be nice to think that a clever architect could in some way incorporate the pump and tap into the designing of the pool, even if it's just the facade - i mean filbo was ugly but wouldn't it have been nice if they'd just kept a fragment to remind people of what once stood there.

You don't hear Egyptians complaining that they don't build pyramids anymore. lol

ha ha - but you actually make a very crucial point here - look at that building i posted a pic of, the one on the bede park site - they don't build buildings like that anymore, and that's good because whenever we try to they end up looking like shit, but that just emphasises how important it is to make every effort to keep as much as possible.

besides, this is the thread for these observations and opinions... where else can we get it off our chests....

Edmund

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besides, this is the thread for these observations and opinions... where else can we get it off our chests....

You make some fair points Val. Don't get me wrong I agree with most of the stuff you say I just didn't see the need for the constant knit picking at everything the city was doing and the numerous threads dedicated to slagging it off. I also don't blame you considering you live in the beautiful city of Oslo and trips back to Leicester must be similar to a bad day in Baghdad.

Like you say this is the thread to get it off your chest so apologies on that front. I suppose it's a case of lost hope like you said and just let the council get on with it as it seems no matter what you say or do will change the outcome.

On a similar note I just saw footage on sky sports news about Leicester's world cup bid in which they panned a camera across the rooftops of Leicester and it was very bland. They also interviewed the guy you were talking about who you wrote letters via mercury to. lol

davieG

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You make some fair points Val. Don't get me wrong I agree with most of the stuff you say I just didn't see the need for the constant knit picking at everything the city was doing and the numerous threads dedicated to slagging it off. I also don't blame you considering you live in the beautiful city of Oslo and trips back to Leicester must be similar to a bad day in Baghdad.

Like you say this is the thread to get it off your chest so apologies on that front. I suppose it's a case of lost hope like you said and just let the council get on with it as it seems no matter what you say or do will change the outcome.

On a similar note I just saw footage on sky sports news about Leicester's world cup bid in which they panned a camera across the rooftops of Leicester and it was very bland. They also interviewed the guy you were talking about who you wrote letters via mercury to. lol

Oslo has problem of it's own - graffiti it's everywhere. Most disappointing.

Edmund

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Oslo has problem of it's own - graffiti it's everywhere. Most disappointing.

Same with Holland. Must be a European thing. :dunno:

Edmund

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I didn't have my sound on as it's crap on my laptop but why did they show the Tiger's new stand :dunno:

They said it would be used as a training ground if they were successful in the bid.

davieG

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They said it would be used as a training ground if they were successful in the bid.

Thanks.

Lillehamring

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You make some fair points Val. Don't get me wrong I agree with most of the stuff you say I just didn't see the need for the constant knit picking at everything the city was doing and the numerous threads dedicated to slagging it off. I also don't blame you considering you live in the beautiful city of Oslo and trips back to Leicester must be similar to a bad day in Baghdad.

Like you say this is the thread to get it off your chest so apologies on that front. I suppose it's a case of lost hope like you said and just let the council get on with it as it seems no matter what you say or do will change the outcome.

On a similar note I just saw footage on sky sports news about Leicester's world cup bid in which they panned a camera across the rooftops of Leicester and it was very bland. They also interviewed the guy you were talking about who you wrote letters via mercury to. lol

well, hopefully things are improving, the UNI library is lovely and the other developments i posted are steps in the right direction - and it isn't just europe, i lived in london and it was years ahead of leicester architecturally-

i just remember very distinctly how the council stepped in to allow the halls between the church and the holiday in, criminal really, and we all know how ugly and inappropriate they proves to be.... so, i guess i have some issues with them..... and also DMU's cop out on the new student building - not to mention thames tower :doh:

@ross willmott - one big fooking sunday - jesus! one thing, years ago - arrggghhh, that man!

Lillehamring

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leicestercentralalsopc1.jpg

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i genuinely believe that they could renovate the station to this condition, if they really wanted to that is...

Edmund

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i genuinely believe that they could renovate the station to this condition, if they really wanted to that is...

Didn't realise the station was so different to the original. I was always led to believe that the current building was exactly as it was since first erected bar a few cosmetic changes to keep it stable.

davieG

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i genuinely believe that they could renovate the station to this condition, if they really wanted to that is...

I believe there's proposals by Network Rail to turn the front of the station into shops and to create a new entrance at the rear, this alongside plans by the Regeneration Group to develop the whole area around the post offfice building who I believe are moving to Meridian now they don't use trains for moving mail around. I assume this will mean there is a a good possibility that the post office buildings and some of the ancient parts of the station around Platform 4 will disappear.

Houdini Logic

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it strikes me as senseless to demolish something when it doesn't need to be - in the case of the bowstring bridge, whilst it may be ugly and boring to some, to many it is a part of their lives and memories - with a bit of thought and commtment it could easily have been incorporated into the design, ultimately nothing will be built on the bridge's footprint.

Deep down, i'm pretty sure you don't even believe that

some people may not be interested in how leicester used to be, and how it's changed, but i am, even if i no longer live there, i still have very fond memories and hate to think that these memories are destroyed so casually...

I am.

And when something worth shouting about is going to be destoryed I'll be the first to be heard.

Preservation isn't the only word in my vocabulary - progression is there too...

Lillehamring

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I believe there's proposals by Network Rail to turn the front of the station into shops and to create a new entrance at the rear, this alongside plans by the Regeneration Group to develop the whole area around the post offfice building who I believe are moving to Meridian now they don't use trains for moving mail around. I assume this will mean there is a a good possibility that the post office buildings and some of the ancient parts of the station around Platform 4 will disappear.

are we talking about the same station here?

Lillehamring

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Deep down, i'm pretty sure you don't even believe that

yeah, i'm always saying stuff i don't mean :rolleyes:i think the petitions and the level of protest shows that it does mean a lot to people, how many other demolitions have seen a response like this?

I am.

And when something worth shouting about is going to be destoryed I'll be the first to be heard.

Preservation isn't the only word in my vocabulary - progression is there too...

um, yeah, i think we've covered that. :unsure:

Lillehamring

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and so it continues... this should be interesting to many on here - good news for motorists and hospital visitors, but another little bit of history...

Two pubs owned by the NHS – The Victory and The Pride of Leicester, both in Aylestone Road – will be demolished under the plans.

http://www.thisisleicestershire.co.uk/news...il/article.html

davieG

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are we talking about the same station here?

Oops! :doh: I didn't look too close at the picture saw station and my mind slip into London road mode.

Houdini Logic

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to many it is a part of their lives and memories

Deep down, i'm pretty sure you don't even believe that

yeah, i'm always saying stuff i don't mean i think the petitions and the level of protest shows that it does mean a lot to people, how many other demolitions have seen a response like this?

Well if that is genuinely the feelings of the people that live in the area (call me cynical, but I find it very hard to believe) then I hope the bridge stays.

To me it's a bridge, and not a particularly interesting one at that.

If they could use the space for something more productive, then i'm all for it.

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Lillehamring

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Well if that is genuinely the feelings of the people that live in the area (call me cynical, but I find it very hard to believe) then I hope the bridge stays.

To me it's a bridge, and not a particularly interesting one at that.

If they could use the space for something more productive, then i'm all for it.

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fair enough, but things become interesting to different people for different reasons - even though it is not that special, what it represents to people is,

and having nothing there is just dull, there are already too many parts of leicester that are just bland and insignificant, as this road will now be, robbed of it's bridge, the k&w building etc....

Lillehamring

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ok, i have mentioned the kirby & west building a few times here, and the other pic wasn't too clear...

again, it seems like a nother case of letting it fall into disrepair and then using that as a reason no tot preserve it...

but, undeniably a very unique face in leicester....

http://test2.leicester.gov.uk/Easysite/lib...mp;ImageID=6500

for those who aren't sure, this was on the road from the bowstring bridge to DMU...

edit: sorry, dynamic page crap, on the inage - just open the link

Edmund

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Oops! :doh: I didn't look too close at the picture saw station and my mind slip into London road mode.

Hang on I'm getting confused now, is that not the main station on London Road?

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