Adam Hollioake

[Guest]

Just saw him on the news. Has taken up boxing and cage fighting.

Looked fat and not particularly good at either.

Also living in Aus.

It's the last fact that annoys me.

International players should have real ties to the country that they play for. England players should be English (and reasonably proud of it).

Enough with capping players with tenuous links. I'd rather the team lost as an English team than won as a multi-national group of mercenaires.

[Guest Basildon Fox]

Just saw him on the news. Has taken up boxing and cage fighting.

Looked fat and not particularly good at either.

Also living in Aus.

It's the last fact that annoys me.

International players should have real ties to the country that they play for. England players should be English (and reasonably proud of it).

Enough with capping players with tenuous links. I'd rather the team lost as an English team than won as a multi-national group of mercenaires.

So he has English hetitage and spent his career living in England. He subsequently moved back to Australia at the end of his career. Why because he now lives in a different country should that belittle him representing England? Are you not allowed to still support England if you live in a different country?

Where do you live?

[HEGGSY]

Don't you live in France, FIF?

[Guest MattP]

What on earth?

[Guest]

Don't you live in France, FIF?

The guy is an Aus. Rugby and Cricket are riddled with players who weren't good enough to play for their OWN teams but good enough to play for England so they did.

I'm not blaming him - he wasn't good enough to be an international in all honesty so if Wales had offered him a spot he should take it. I'm blaming governing bodies who bend the rules to suit themselves.

And Do I play for England or France?

The French Basketball federation asked my son to get French nationality (before he got injured) so that he could play for them though.

[Guest MattP]

The guy is an Aus. Rugby and Cricket are riddled with players who weren't good enough to play for their OWN teams but good enough to play for England so they did.

I'm not blaming him - he wasn't good enough to be an international in all honesty so if Wales had offered him a spot he should take it. I'm blaming governing bodies who bend the rules to suit themselves.

And Do I play for England or France?

The French Basketball federation asked my son to get French nationality (before he got injured) so that he could play for them though.

Who?

[HEGGSY]

KP, Trott etc.

I still don't know what this thread is about, but I think that's what he's talking about.

[Corky]

South Africa would jump at the chance to have Pietersen now.

[Guest MattP]

KP, Trott etc.

I still don't know what this thread is about, but I think that's what he's talking about.

KP left SA because of the racist quota system towards white players. He would easily have made the SA team. He would probably have chosen England anyway due to his parents.

Trott would get in SA's team as well now.

[HEGGSY]

Like I said, I still don't know what this tread is about.

[Guest MattP]

Like I said, I still don't know what this tread is about.

lol

[SOCCERROO FOX]

Not sure what this tread really is about.

But yeah saw the article about his cage fighting and all i can say is Oh dear, rather comical tho.

Matt let's face it no one really wants KP

[Guest]

Who?

Cricketers not born in England. I reckon recently most of the team were born in another country.

Michael Lumb, Craig Kieswetter and Kevin Pietersen were born and raised in South Africa and Eoin Morgan, was born in Dublin and has represented Ireland. In the current Test team Andrew Strauss, and Matt Prior were born in and spent their early lives in Johannesburg.

looking back in the past and ignoring the hollioake disaster era but which had loads as well Basil D'Oliveira, Tony Greig, Allan Lamb, Chris and Robin Smith and Graeme Hick all came from southern Africa. Derek Pringle (born in Kenya), Dermot Reeve (Hong Kong), Chris Lewis (Guyana) and Phil DeFreitas (Dominica). Gladstone Small (Barbados). Owais Shah Ind/pak . matt Price, Ian Trott,.

Found a list

AUSTRALIA: Billy Murdoch, John Ferris, Sammy Woods, Albert Trott, ‘Gubby’ Allen, Adam Hollioake, Ben Hollioake, Jason Gallian, Tim Ambrose.

SOUTH AFRICA: Basil D’Oliviera, Tony Greig, Ian Greig, Allan Lamb, Chris Smith, Robin Smith, Andrew Strauss, Kevin Pietersen, Matt Prior, Ian Trott.

WEST INDIES: Lord Harris, Pelham Warner, Roland Butcher, Norman Cowans, Wilf Slack, Gladstone Small, Phillip DeFreitas, Devon Malcolm, Chris Lewis, Neil Williams, Joseph Benjamin.

NEW ZEALAND: Andy Caddick.

INDIA: K.S. Ranjitsinhji (‘Ranji’), Edward Wynyard, Richard Young, Neville Tufnell, Douglas Jardine, K.S. Duleepsinhji (‘Duleep’), Nawab of Pataudi, Sr., Errol Holmes, Norman Mitchell-Innes, George Emmett, Colin Cowdrey, John Jameson, Bob Woolmer, Robin Jackman, Nasser Hussain, Minal Patel.

PAKISTAN: Usman Afzaal, Owais Shah.

ZIMBABWE (formerly Rhodesia): Graeme Hick, Paul Parker.

KENYA: Derek Pringle.

ZAMBIA: Phil Edmonds, Neil Radford.

GERMANY: Donald Carr, Paul Terry.

ITALY: Ted Dexter.

PERU: Freddie Brown.

HONG KONG: Dermot Reeve.

PAPUA NEW GUINEA: Geraint Jones.

DENMARK: Amjad Khan

[Mack]

I agree with the OP.

To play for a country in any sport you should have been born there, end of.

I am sick of our cricket team being full of ringers like Trott and KP.

I'd rather see us lose with an all English team than win with one full of players that just are not English.

And the same should go for Football, to stop the likes of Ireland and Scotland packing their sides with English nearly men with a second cousin twice removed as a tenuous link.

Hollyoake is skint apparently hence the freak show kick boxing career.