lush Posted 25 July 2005 Author Posted 25 July 2005 I will tolerate anyones right to believe in what they will as long as it does not threaten my security. I recognise that billions of muslims practice their faith peacefully and should be allowed to do so, whether I agree with it or not. 143969[/snapback] Celebrating the peace within anything is good. Channel 4 showed a documentary about a year or so ago, about young muslim men taking the Koran to its word by using the following verses "Men are in charge of women ... good women are obedient … ... from those from whom you fear rebellion, admonish them and scourge them. Lo! Allah is ever High Exalted, Great." [4:34] The Qur’an also shows us it is lawful to rape the women we capture in warfare: “O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives … and those whom thy right (sword) hand possesses of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee.†[33:50]. “Married women are forbidden to you except the captives your sword hand possesses.†[4:24] ...to rape innocent girls in Bradford. Its bad enough that any man woman or child could be abused in any way, so when you have people who abuse society because of their religious beliefs, its absolutely not on. Im not so sure they wouldve done this had there not been such a belief.
Ultra Posted 25 July 2005 Posted 25 July 2005 The above post seems disturbingly similar to propaganda put out by the BNP. For your information, Bradford may indeed have a high Muslim population but the incidence of rapes or sexual assaults is NOT higher there than in cities of similar size. It's extremely unhelpful to even hint at otherwise. In addition, as other posters on this thread have pointed out, it's easy to quote selective passages from the Koran. But others have found it just as easy to quote bits of the Bible for their own malicious ends. I'm proud to live in a city with a comparatively high level of racial and religious tolerance. I want to keep it that way!
lush Posted 26 July 2005 Author Posted 26 July 2005 For your information, Bradford may indeed have a high Muslim population but the incidence of rapes or sexual assaults is NOT higher there than in cities of similar size. It's extremely unhelpful to even hint at otherwise. I never said it was, and i didnt hint anything, i spoke the truth. Appologise? In addition, as other posters on this thread have pointed out, it's easy to quote selective passages from the Koran. But others have found it just as easy to quote bits of the Bible for their own malicious ends. But this thread is about Islam, not christianity. If it makes you feel better, christianity disgusts me too. I'm proud to live in a city with a comparatively high level of racial and religious tolerance. How is the anti-christian slaughter of sheep through Islam, tolerant of christianity? How is a sword parade by the sikh community, tolerant of british law? How is christianity tolerant of people`s pottential sexual diseases (particuly in Africa, where AIDS has reached 70% of the population) when they pray on people not to wear condoms, or birth control and then end up giving birth to diseased babies? How tolerant is religion to non believers, that believes in something they cannot see, hear, touch, feel or smell, when it walks our streets preaching such drivel in our society? How tolerant is our society that says white people shouldnt have a specific organisation to represent them, and them only, in the police force and teacher work place? The same for hetrosexuals in the police service? I want to keep it that way! Are you sure? I`d like to get rid of such evil first. 144172[/snapback]
Thracian Posted 26 July 2005 Posted 26 July 2005 I will tolerate anyones right to believe in what they will as long as it does not threaten my security. I recognise that billions of muslims practice their faith peacefully and should be allowed to do so, whether I agree with it or not. 143969[/snapback] Celebrating the peace within anything is good. Channel 4 showed a documentary about a year or so ago, about young muslim men taking the Koran to its word by using the following verses "Men are in charge of women ... good women are obedient … ... from those from whom you fear rebellion, admonish them and scourge them. Lo! Allah is ever High Exalted, Great." [4:34] The Qur’an also shows us it is lawful to rape the women we capture in warfare: “O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives … and those whom thy right (sword) hand possesses of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee.†[33:50]. “Married women are forbidden to you except the captives your sword hand possesses.†[4:24] ...to rape innocent girls in Bradford. Its bad enough that any man woman or child could be abused in any way, so when you have people who abuse society because of their religious beliefs, its absolutely not on. Im not so sure they wouldve done this had there not been such a belief. 144096[/snapback] Since when have Muslims held a monopoly when it comes to rape? Or the subjugation of women for that matter.
lush Posted 26 July 2005 Author Posted 26 July 2005 I will tolerate anyones right to believe in what they will as long as it does not threaten my security. I recognise that billions of muslims practice their faith peacefully and should be allowed to do so, whether I agree with it or not. 143969[/snapback] Celebrating the peace within anything is good. Channel 4 showed a documentary about a year or so ago, about young muslim men taking the Koran to its word by using the following verses "Men are in charge of women ... good women are obedient … ... from those from whom you fear rebellion, admonish them and scourge them. Lo! Allah is ever High Exalted, Great." [4:34] The Qur’an also shows us it is lawful to rape the women we capture in warfare: “O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives … and those whom thy right (sword) hand possesses of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee.†[33:50]. “Married women are forbidden to you except the captives your sword hand possesses.†[4:24] ...to rape innocent girls in Bradford. Its bad enough that any man woman or child could be abused in any way, so when you have people who abuse society because of their religious beliefs, its absolutely not on. Im not so sure they wouldve done this had there not been such a belief. 144096[/snapback] Since when have Muslims held a monopoly when it comes to rape? Or the subjugation of women for that matter. 144198[/snapback] Who said they did or do? The point im making is, their belief tells them they can, and they believe it.
Ultra Posted 26 July 2005 Posted 26 July 2005 Who said they did or do? 144375[/snapback] You did, with your remarks about the "rape of innocent girls in Bradford" Be more careful about what you write in future. Bigotry and prejudice exists among people of all faiths, and as we can see, among people of no faith. To pretend otherwise really does not help. Maybe you ought to pay more attention in lessons when you go back to school after the holidays!
lush Posted 26 July 2005 Author Posted 26 July 2005  Who said they did or do? 144375[/snapback] You did, with your remarks about the "rape of innocent girls in Bradford" Be more careful about what you write in future. Bigotry and prejudice exists among people of all faiths, and as we can see, among people of no faith. To pretend otherwise really does not help. Maybe you ought to pay more attention in lessons when you go back to school after the holidays! 144757[/snapback] I never said muslims held a monopoly on rape. Dont threaten me!!! I agree with your third paragraph, shame you dont, its a contradiction. Your bigotry towards me without reason is disgusting. I ask you to deal with what is said, NOT what you ```think``` is said?
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