Babylon Posted 23 July 2005 Posted 23 July 2005 We have sexual organs to have offspring full stop. Animals **** as much as they can and anything they can to ensure they spread their seed as far and wide as possible. Hence the human males tendancy to stray every now and again from their one choosen partner. It's in your jeans from thousands and thousands of years ago. The fact is we have developed mentally so we can enjoy recreational sex. 142833[/snapback] I love that "It's in your jeans," ...a real classic. 142846[/snapback]
Rincewind Posted 23 July 2005 Posted 23 July 2005 The C of E and Catholic curch are anti-gay. I suppose if you read the Bible there are many things in there that you could justify anyy actions that you make.
rossporterlc Posted 23 July 2005 Posted 23 July 2005 We have sexual organs to have offspring full stop. Animals **** as much as they can and anything they can to ensure they spread their seed as far and wide as possible. Hence the human males tendancy to stray every now and again from their one choosen partner. It's in your jeans from thousands and thousands of years ago. The fact is we have developed mentally so we can enjoy recreational sex. 142833[/snapback] very true
Thracian Posted 23 July 2005 Posted 23 July 2005 The C of E and Catholic curch are anti-gay. I suppose if you read the Bible there are many things in there that you could justify anyy actions that you make. 142874[/snapback] Be interesting to take a poll of Catholic priests and coE vicars about whether they are anti-gay considering all the sordid publicity that has involved them in recent years. Talk about the pots calling the kettles.
TrickyTrev Posted 23 July 2005 Posted 23 July 2005 The C of E and Catholic curch are anti-gay. I suppose if you read the Bible there are many things in there that you could justify anyy actions that you make. 142874[/snapback] Be interesting to take a poll of Catholic priests and coE vicars about whether they are anti-gay considering all the sordid publicity that has involved them in recent years. Talk about the pots calling the kettles. 142984[/snapback] Allegedly. I don't understand how you can have a problem with homosexuality or think it is unnatural. It's like disliking grass or something. It just is. There is nothing to dislike. Its not a philosophy or a preference or anythign like that. 1/8 people are gay, get over it.
lush Posted 23 July 2005 Author Posted 23 July 2005 A British LGBT civil rights group says its leaders have received death threats from Muslim fundamentalists and warns that gay clubs could be targets for terrorist bombers. "Gay venues could be bombed by Islamic terrorists," OutRage said Monday. "All gay bars and clubs should introduce bag and body searches. Muslim fundamentalists have a violent hatred of lesbians and gay men. They believe we should be killed. Our community could be their next target. This is no time for complacency." The warning comes in the wake of this months terrorist attack in London. (story) More than 50 people died in the bombings that authorities say were the work of Islamic militants. OutRage said that three of the group's officers have received "repeated death threats from Islamic fundamentalists in recent weeks and months." Peter Tatchell, the leader of OutRage; Brett Lock its campaign coordinator; and Aaron Saeed, the organization's spokesperson on Muslim affairs, have been warned they will be murdered, Tatchell said Monday. In a statement Tatchell said that they have been told they are on a "hit list" and are going to be "beheaded" and "chopped up", in accordance with "Islamic law". The threats apparently began soon after OutRage stepped up its campaign in defense of LGBT Muslims, including gay Muslims fleeing attempted "honor killings" in Algeria, Iran Palestine and in the UK. Tatchell said that since early April, Islamic fundamentalists have made various attempts to track his movements - posing as journalists, police officers and representatives of the Muslim Council of Britain. He said that police have been made aware of the threats and are investigating. A spokesperson for the MET said it does not comment on any possible investigations. "If the terrorists want to attack the gay community, they may well attempt to detonate a bomb in a crowded gay bar, restaurant, club or community center," according to Lock. "We also urge extra security and special vigilance in gay areas like Canal Street and Old Compton Street, and at up-coming, publicly advertised gay events like Big Gay Out and Soho Pride. 142599[/snapback] Two questions: a) Does "thou shalt not kill" have any real meaning in Islamic beliefs?. Of course, these death threats arnt real All we hear about on tv is how `peacefull` Islam is. Im waiting to see on the `news` the gay people in question telling of their anger, they do get a platform to do this, dont they, or is being gay not PC good enough just now? B) Do the recent bombings and the envisioned assault on "gays" mark the organised start of a Hitler-like attack on all that is non-Islamic?. Thats a real scary thought. We must learn from our history. 142769[/snapback]
lush Posted 23 July 2005 Author Posted 23 July 2005 I don't understand how you can have a problem with homosexuality or think it is unnatural How natural is straight sex to you? There is nothing to dislike. That depends if you dislike it. 143041[/snapback]
TrickyTrev Posted 23 July 2005 Posted 23 July 2005 I don't understand how you can have a problem with homosexuality or think it is unnatural How natural is straight sex to you? There is nothing to dislike. That depends if you dislike it. 143041[/snapback] 143046[/snapback] I'm as straight as they come I'm afraid. I just don't see how something so widespread and blatantly a part of human pyschology be seen as unnatural. There is a big difference between disliking the thought of gay sex and disliking the notion of homosexuality.
lush Posted 24 July 2005 Author Posted 24 July 2005 I don't understand how you can have a problem with homosexuality or think it is unnatural How natural is straight sex to you? There is nothing to dislike. That depends if you dislike it. 143041[/snapback] 143046[/snapback] I'm as straight as they come I'm afraid. I just don't see how something so widespread and blatantly a part of human pyschology be seen as unnatural. There is a big difference between disliking the thought of gay sex and disliking the notion of homosexuality. 143062[/snapback] How natural is gay sex to you? I like the gay people i know, but i hate the thought of 2 men getting it together, they know and understand that, because they dont like the thought of having sex with the opposite sex.
Kingy Posted 24 July 2005 Posted 24 July 2005 Big Bro is a prime example - I dont mind people such as Derek who don't push it in your face all the time - but people like Craig and especially Camal, I cannot stand listenning to them. It just makes me feel bad. Two birds - No problem !
Shum Posted 24 July 2005 Posted 24 July 2005 I don't understand how you can have a problem with homosexuality or think it is unnatural How natural is straight sex to you? There is nothing to dislike. That depends if you dislike it. 143041[/snapback] 143046[/snapback] I'm as straight as they come I'm afraid. I just don't see how something so widespread and blatantly a part of human pyschology be seen as unnatural. There is a big difference between disliking the thought of gay sex and disliking the notion of homosexuality. 143062[/snapback] How natural is gay sex to you? I like the gay people i know, but i hate the thought of 2 men getting it together, they know and understand that, because they dont like the thought of having sex with the opposite sex. 143075[/snapback] Putting men aside... I'm sure youll love the site of two women 'getting it on' ?
Rincewind Posted 24 July 2005 Posted 24 July 2005 We have sexual organs to have offspring full stop. Animals **** as much as they can and anything they can to ensure they spread their seed as far and wide as possible. Hence the human males tendancy to stray every now and again from their one choosen partner. It's in your jeans from thousands and thousands of years ago. The fact is we have developed mentally so we can enjoy recreational sex. 142833[/snapback] very true 142906[/snapback] Do animals do it all the time? I thought it was only certain times of the year. I've seen monkeys play with themselves. Humans are one of the few species that use sex as a pleasure and to show feelings for their partners. If carressing the thighs nipples and kissing brings forth a sensual feeling then is that not right at the time no matter what the couples sex is? Saying that though I'm only aroused by the female. On a far off planet in a distant galaxy there may well be a society where the act of loving your fellow man is encouraged and is not frowned upon.
rossporterlc Posted 24 July 2005 Posted 24 July 2005 I don't understand how you can have a problem with homosexuality or think it is unnatural How natural is straight sex to you? There is nothing to dislike. That depends if you dislike it. 143041[/snapback] 143046[/snapback] I'm as straight as they come I'm afraid. I just don't see how something so widespread and blatantly a part of human pyschology be seen as unnatural. There is a big difference between disliking the thought of gay sex and disliking the notion of homosexuality. 143062[/snapback] How natural is gay sex to you? I like the gay people i know, but i hate the thought of 2 men getting it together, they know and understand that, because they dont like the thought of having sex with the opposite sex. 143075[/snapback] Putting men aside... I'm sure youll love the site of two women 'getting it on' ? 143078[/snapback] course, the 'lesbians' seen in porn are fit, real lesbians are usually not so
rossporterlc Posted 24 July 2005 Posted 24 July 2005 I don't understand how you can have a problem with homosexuality or think it is unnatural How natural is straight sex to you? There is nothing to dislike. That depends if you dislike it. 143041[/snapback] 143046[/snapback] I'm as straight as they come I'm afraid. I just don't see how something so widespread and blatantly a part of human pyschology be seen as unnatural. There is a big difference between disliking the thought of gay sex and disliking the notion of homosexuality. 143062[/snapback] How natural is gay sex to you? I like the gay people i know, but i hate the thought of 2 men getting it together, they know and understand that, because they dont like the thought of having sex with the opposite sex. 143075[/snapback]
Steven Posted 24 July 2005 Posted 24 July 2005 I think Iran executed two teenagers for being homosexual recently.
rossporterlc Posted 24 July 2005 Posted 24 July 2005 I think Iran executed two teenagers for being homosexual recently. 143151[/snapback] bit extreme
lush Posted 24 July 2005 Author Posted 24 July 2005 I think Iran executed two teenagers for being homosexual recently.    143151[/snapback] bit extreme 143157[/snapback] In saudi arabia recently, a man killed a gay man because he seen him snogging another man, and because it made big news, the Islamic country that saudi is, had no choice but to behead the other gay man when he was caught. In the Islamic country of saudi arabia, it is illegal to gamble, drink alcohol in public and have gay sex.
rossporterlc Posted 24 July 2005 Posted 24 July 2005 I think Iran executed two teenagers for being homosexual recently. 143151[/snapback] bit extreme 143157[/snapback] In saudi arabia recently, a man killed a gay man because he seen him snogging another man, and because it made big news, the Islamic country that saudi is, had no choice but to behead the other gay man when he was caught. In the Islamic country of saudi arabia, it is illegal to gamble, drink alcohol in public and have gay sex. 143181[/snapback] wheras here gay sex is legal yet straight anal sex isnt!
Deathside Posted 24 July 2005 Posted 24 July 2005 I think Iran executed two teenagers for being homosexual recently.    143151[/snapback] bit extreme 143157[/snapback] In saudi arabia recently, a man killed a gay man because he seen him snogging another man, and because it made big news, the Islamic country that saudi is, had no choice but to behead the other gay man when he was caught. In the Islamic country of saudi arabia, it is illegal to gamble, drink alcohol in public and have gay sex. 143181[/snapback] Bit like the play offs ain't it? Most seasons you hear the manager of the team who finished 3rd in the league and then lost in the play offs saying that the system is unfair In reality everyone knows the rules at the start of the season and therefore know that to achieve auto promotion they mustfinish in top 2 In Saudi Arabia the rules / laws are very clear as are the punishments for breaking said laws The people involved in this story knew the risks involved but choose to take the actions they did I making no statement on weather or not I agree with the legal system in Saudi PS: The last time I visited an arab country I didn't gamble, consume alcohol (or drugs) or indulge in gay (or straight) sex
Deathside Posted 24 July 2005 Posted 24 July 2005 wheras here gay sex is legal yet straight anal sex isnt! 143185[/snapback] In the UK, anal intercourse is a legal activity between consenting men and women aged 16 and over, in both heterosexual and homosexual relationships, except in Northern Ireland where it's 17 and over. In some countries it is a criminal offence punishable by long custodial sentences, corporal or even capital punishment. Source The Law Penetrative anal sex is legal in the UK between consenting adults (gay or straight) who are over the age of consent, i.e. at least 16 years of age (17 in Northern Ireland). Source
rossporterlc Posted 24 July 2005 Posted 24 July 2005 wheras here gay sex is legal yet straight anal sex isnt! 143185[/snapback] In the UK, anal intercourse is a legal activity between consenting men and women aged 16 and over, in both heterosexual and homosexual relationships, except in Northern Ireland where it's 17 and over. In some countries it is a criminal offence punishable by long custodial sentences, corporal or even capital punishment. Source The Law Penetrative anal sex is legal in the UK between consenting adults (gay or straight) who are over the age of consent, i.e. at least 16 years of age (17 in Northern Ireland). Source 143200[/snapback] nice research, i shoudln't trust zoo magazine really
lush Posted 24 July 2005 Author Posted 24 July 2005 It seems harsh Death, but like you say, you know the rules and if you dont like their Islamic law, dont `enter`. I wonder if Islamic law will become our law some day? Double the amount of percentage birth rate is from Islamic families comparerd to christian families.
TrickyTrev Posted 24 July 2005 Posted 24 July 2005 It seems harsh Death, but like you say, you know the rules and if you dont like their Islamic law, dont `enter`.I wonder if Islamic law will become our law some day? Double the amount of percentage birth rate is from Islamic families comparerd to christian families. 143209[/snapback] I think i would rather believe the 2001 Census that states that 70% of the population are Christian and only two and a half Muslim. Even allowing for some imperfection information and rapid breeding it is safwe to say you are talking out of your arse.
lush Posted 24 July 2005 Author Posted 24 July 2005 It seems harsh Death, but like you say, you know the rules and if you dont like their Islamic law, dont `enter`.I wonder if Islamic law will become our law some day? Double the amount of percentage birth rate is from Islamic families comparerd to christian families. 143209[/snapback] I think i would rather believe the 2001 Census that states that 70% of the population are Christian and only two and a half Muslim. Even allowing for some imperfection information and rapid breeding it is safwe to say you are talking out of your arse. 143223[/snapback] tricky, i never said there are more muslims than christians. Im saying their birth rate is double the PERCENTAGE of that from those that consider thenselves christian. Now repeat that back to me, i wana make sure you dont read through your arse? Muslim families most likely to have children
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