An Open Letter to David Davis MP

[breadandcheese]

Can i add the far left to your islamism and far right stance, thanks.

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I have never said that the far left is not as facist as the far right.

I dislike any groups that are intolerant, refuse to listen and seek to impose their beliefs on society.

[lush]

I also want to state that I do not think religion is a bad thing .  In fact, I would go one further and say that religion has provided a backdrop to most of the major world powers throughout history.  The problem is only when people take religion out of a private setting and attempt to bring it into a public arena.

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I would disagree, anyone that believes in flying cows, adamantly, is locked away from civilised society. believing in a god like creature, something we humans cannot see hear touch feel or smell, is no different. religion in the form of a god, is very bad. And to your second point, absolutely agree, religious beliefs do affect society badly when in the public arean.

[Hullfox]

Thracian, some of what you have written is both outrageous and out of order.

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I have never said that the far left is not as facist as the far right. 

I dislike any groups that are intolerant, refuse to listen and seek to impose their beliefs on society.

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Thats cool, but seeing how you only mentioned the far right, i see no problem (and hope you dont) in balancing your stance, to make it equal politically, it makes it a fair debate.

[Dunc]

And in april 2001 there were 54,153,898 white people in the UK (making up 92% of the country).

That makes 2,707,695 unlawful white people.

Scarier in my opinion, and highlights the need for all social demographs to work together.

Thanks for helping me.

[Dunc]

Dunc, I do agree with you, however, feel that your post tags too many topics with the same brush i.e. there is always 5% of a population that have problems and we must act to do something about it.  Defnitely we have to, but I feel that to approach a subject such as this in that way is to misjudge the dangers of ideology.  Still today, I feel we delude ourselves in the belief that there are root causes of Islamist terrorism.  If we eliminate one (e.g. Israel-Palestine, Iraq, etc), others will be found. 

For example, I have heard suggestions that the original Gulf War was the fault of the West (by encouraging Saddam to invade Kuwait), that the sanctions in place over Iraq (in the nineties) were again a war against Muslims (with scant regard to the reasons for them).  Conveninently, events such as Kosovo (and the US-British offensive against Serbia for its ethnic cleansing of muslims) are of course forgotten. Any cause will be found to imply victimhood and a sense of isolation. 

I am unsure how to tackle the problem of this ideology.  I would hope that this ideology of hatred can be argued and fought with words.

I also want to state that I do not think religion is a bad thing.  In fact, I would go one further and say that religion has provided a backdrop to most of the major world powers throughout history.  The problem is only when people take religion out of a private setting and attempt to bring it into a public arena.

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Good point. have you read American Hero - that (on the non-fiction thread of the book) is an interesting, if a little far fetched theory on the outbreak of the original Gulf War.

I still believe that society as a whole needs to work together to combat the small minority who give individual social groups a bad name.

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Scary.