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5 hours ago, The Fosse Way said:

European semi-final is a good way of charting the decline rather than a particular achievement.

 

But actually, not having teams knocked out of the CL/EL means you can't really compare the two.

 

The other semi-finalists in our year were Roma, Marseille and Feyenoord.

 

Palace's other semi-finalists are Strasbourg, Rayo Vallecano and Shakhtar Donetsk.

And yet, it’s still a competition you can’t be in unless you aren’t good enough for the CL and EL. It’s a competition for losers and also-rans. 
 

The rot had set in before then.

1 hour ago, Voll Blau said:

Genuinely people in there who'd clearly never been to a football match before.

 

Liam Moore was starting chants in the Old Trafford concourse and most people were looking at the guy like he was an alien ffs.

I remember this, everyone was chanting ‘Liam, give us a song’ and he made like he wasn’t interested and was trying to chill, then he just burst into song.

I concur there were some proper melts in that end. I’m not someone who thinks you should never criticise players but I got in an argument with someone who was slaughtering Ulloa all game.

I had the shits from the day of the Spurs game for the next week which took the edge off the celebrations tbh. This was before Covid so I went to the Everton game without feeling too much guilt.

2 hours ago, Spudulike said:

You've lost me now. You can't 'Not really' see that 52 points would've kept us up? 

 

Fair enough.

What is your problem, mate?

Who’s side are you on with your argument?

You don’t get a prize for being statistically correct. Yeh, 52 points would have THEORETICALLY kept us up but even that is a meaningless argument considering the space time continuum. How do you know the other teams wouldn’t have been spurred on by the amount of points they needed to get? 
 

Surely you can’t be suggesting that the situation as it actually happened didn’t affect how different teams played. For example, Blackburn were on the beach today and so were we. The point people keep making is that if this was a crunch game there’s ample evidence we would have lost, see Portsmouth or several home games.

I’m not here to defend PSR, but the last thing this club needs is the narrative that we didn’t deserve to be relegated.

1 minute ago, lookwhaticando said:

Wednesday ****ing things up right now. 
 

West Brom only five points ahead, so the idiots can blame the points deduction. 

So what if they do? The points deduction is King Power’s fault. We got it because of what they did. There’s no getting around it.

3 hours ago, SB87_LCFC said:

The worst striker we've had here since Akinbiyi - FACT

I’m amazed we still compare our worst ever strikers to Akinbiyi and not Musa. 
 

Considering what league we’ve just been relegated from, though, it’s fair to say Daka and Ayew are much, much worse.

3 hours ago, urban.spaceman said:

The last 35 years:

 

1991. Final day relegation escape. 

1992. Play off final defeat.
1993. Play off final defeat.
1994. Play off final win. Premiership.
1995. Relegation. Division One.
1996. Play off final win. Premiership.
1997. League Cup winners and UEFA Cup tie with insane referee
1998. Relatively boring.
1999. League Cup Final last minute defeat
2000. League Cup Winners and UEFA Cup enthusiasts. Plus La Manga 1
2001. Boring.
2002. Relegation, new stadium and administration. Division One. Dennis Wise violently assaulting a team mate in his sleep.
2003. Promotion and La Manga 2: Electric Boogaloo. Premier League.
2004. Relegation. Championship.
2005. Boring.
2006. Shit.
2007. Boring and shit. Loan player suffers heart attack in changing room. 
2008. Relegation. League One. Uncle Nige.
2009. Promotion. Championship.
2010. Play off semi final brain fart. Paolo. Sven.
2011. Sven. Uncle Nige 2.
2012. Boring.
2013. Play off semi final brain fart 2.
2014. Championship winners.
2015. Great Escape. Thailand orgy.
2016. Premier League winners.
2017. Champions League quarter final.
2018. Owner killed in helicopter crash.
2019. English football record 9-0 away win.
2020. First club with players to get COVID.
2021. FA Cup and Community Shield winners.
2022. Europa Conference League Semi-Final.
2023. Relegation. Championship.
2024. Promotion. Premier League.
2025. Relegation. Championship.
2026. Relegation. Points deduction. League One.

 

Good list, though in boring 2001 we went from 4th to 13th in 2 months 😂
 

It’s also interesting how many things are linked to getting pissed up. The ones we know of:

• Biggest ever defeat cos we were hungover

• Don Revie dropped for the cup final for getting smashed 

• Collymore

• Thai Orgy

• I’m assuming most of Rudkin’s transfer business

We are mental.

2 hours ago, Sly said:

Not really, I get the concept, I personally just don’t think I’d associate with it. I know it’s about adopting something people perceive as being theirs and history around it, rather than adopting something new. Everyone with look at this differently. 
 

Phoenix clubs largely don’t get the history transferred etc, so no cups, no league, no memories etc. AFC Wimbledon and Wimbledon FC have been going at this for years.

 

Maybe it’s because I’ve become desensitised to a large part from football itself, as it’s not the game it once was. 
 

Foxestalk I’d say if not a good demographic of the average fan base of the football club. Leicester go pop tomorrow and a Phoenix club for Leicester, I think would struggle to get off the ground and be stuck in the lower echelons of football. It’s the same reason many other Phoenix clubs fail. 

I agree with some of this but…no memories? This doesn’t include a Men in Black procedure.

AFC Wimbledon is the only Wimbledon and is recognised as such. Everyone accepts they are the same club that won the cup in 1988. Did you know Rangers technically started again and none of their trophies count? Well, they do count, because nobody cares what a piece of paper says. Like most institutions, football clubs are make believe. They’re just a collection of people enforcing a narrative and if they stopped doing that they would cease to exist. Everything that counts is in your head.

Whether the phoenix club would actually succeed with LCFC still operating in its current guise is a different matter. It probably doesn’t have the numbers to be viable at the moment. But I’m putting my name forward as interested as I imagine it will become more and more popular as football drifts away from the things that gave it purpose.

14 minutes ago, Sly said:

In reality though, aren’t we better all just supporting our local non league club? 
 

A Step 6 club needs between £80k a £250k. 
 

Would we not be better off supporting the growth of Loughborough, Shepshed, Hinckley, Harborough, Melton, Quorn, Heather etc 

 

If we are back in at Step 6, we may as rebrand it groud share with the likes of Aylestone Park if we are looking at being in the City.

 

I think if the club folded tomorrow, you’d find most of our fan base choosing a Liverpool, Manchester City, Arsenal etc 

I don’t care about Loughborough or Hinckley. I’ve never supported them and I never will. My dad supports Leicester, his dad went to the 61 cup final, for all I know I had a relative who watched Leicester Fosse. 

It’s never been about just watching the football for something to do. It’s this specific club and the history passed down through the generations of fans that means something. It’s having the same memories, identifying with something that’s always been there. You don’t need the same companies house entry, but you do need the same identity to relate to.

I live in London now and am skint but this is the only thing that would potentially get me involved ever again. 

6 minutes ago, -sodapop said:

Hamza did too. Credit to him for coming to face the heat but it's honestly too little too late when it comes to showing that you care imo. 

No credit at all. I’m not interested in these millionaires as people. It’s too late to try and build bridges, now their reputation is on the floor and their career is going in a downward trajectory. Thought they were big shots until the 2nd half tonight and then the panic set in. Where was the respect over the past 4 years? The effort?

Actually disappointed they let him speak.

An arrogant idiot both in football and outside football. Another complete duffer I can’t wait to see the back of. 

2 minutes ago, Tuna said:

Please, please, please be good at your job!

I’m going to stick my neck out and say he won’t be.

And they’ve not even lost which has cost me 50 quid.

Disgusting watching them really try in that second half. That was all that was needed to keep us in this division. I really, really hate these people. You are on millions of pounds, just try FFS.

Sounds quiet. Are they muting the vitriol or are we going to have to accept there isn’t enough appetite for it?

Time to abandon ship and start a new club.

1 hour ago, Hirsty The Blue 94 said:

Basically the atmosphere tonight needs to be the complete opposite of Preston away 2 years back, instead of a 3 hour party just make it as toxic as possible, booing, chanting the lot.

Only songs to be sung should be about our heros of the past, not one positive chanting should be aimed at any of the cutting mob.

Instead of the old ‘you’re f***ing s***’ that people usually sing to the opposition, 20 minutes of ‘you’re f***ing c***s’ could catch on.

I’ve taken the 3/1 for a Hull win, so we will probably draw 0-0 and the players will get clapped off for ‘giving it their all’. 

If they want to do something for a good cause they can sell the club and give the proceeds away to the community, maybe with a couple of their billions extra as they ask for forgiveness. They can spare us the colosseum-esque propaganda. 

1 hour ago, Blue ROI said:

Look at our appointments.

 

All jobbers from the England leagues.

 

No thinking outside the box and looking at what's going on in Central Europe like Bournemouth, Palace,Brighton etc.

 

No innovation, nothing. Let's just go straight for the British Managerial merry go round.

 

Expect more of the same from our vegetables 'running' things 

This bothered me as far back as when we appointed Puel. We hired him purely because he’d managed Southampton, where he was deeply unpopular. 
 

Just as much as the awful signings, our managerial appointments have been equally uninspired and damaging, with the odd exception.

18 hours ago, The_77 said:

I have a lot of issues with how Rodgers conducted himself but he was right about that. We clearly needed new blood in the squad and we’re still dealing with the same types of squad issues we had back then. 
 

But instead Rodgers became the first in a series of managers who were misled by the owner and DoF about transfers, and our players are still stale, soft, and lazy. 

The issues you’re referring with the squad were the ones Rodgers himself caused. He was backed to the tune of £300m and he spaffed it up the wall. Why do you think we’ve been deducted points? Some of his dreadful signings are still here and haven’t been able to shift them. He underperformed for what we spent and what he had at his disposal. He was the one who signed mentally and physically weak players for well over their market value. The core of the squad assembled largely before he came was still there and very talented.

I will never stop correcting this narrative because it’s the one Rodgers himself cultivated with the help of all the journalists and pundits that were in his back pocket. What we needed to do was get rid of him and hire someone decent who was a motivator rather than someone like Brendan who spent every interview telling them they weren’t good enough. Everything goes stale after a while and that includes the manager. That’s what we needed to refresh.