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Kitchandro

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  1. 3 hours ago, adejo92 said:

    I am against the idea of a boycott for the simple reason that it feels a massive let off for the players.

     

    You've put zero effort in all season and destroyed a football club in doing so, and your send off is a half full stadium of the usual zombies clapping you off and holding up "Winks can i have your shirt" banners.

     

    I would much rather it be at capacity, but toxic as hell. I am talking boo the players when they come out the tunnel. Boo the likes of Ayew & Winks every time they touch the ball. Choruses of "Your not fit to wear the shirt".

     

    Give them 90 minutes of dogs abuse, not a free pass with a half full stadium.

    The problem is that vocally vitriolic fans are in the minority and have been drowned out every time. We’ve been asking for it to be ‘toxic’ since we wanted Rodgers sacked in 2022. It never happens. Besides, so what if the players get a bit of abuse, they don’t care. They’re too rich to care.

     

    I’ve always been a fan of protests outside the ground before during and after the game. It gets media attention, has the potential to disrupt something (traffic, entry / exit) and means you can have loads of empty seats still.

     

    We will never make progress because the fanbase is so split though. A phoenix club might solve that.

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  2. 40 minutes ago, Hinckleyfox said:

    Seriously, where do people on here get off telling people what they should and shouldn’t be doing? You don’t want to go, that’s fine, you do you. But leave your judgments on other people elsewhere. 
     

    We all have different motivations for going and it’s not all down to money. It’s down to steeped family traditions, stuff we have done with family members no longer with us, or ways of keeping social interactions with others alive. 
     

    You can be a supporter who goes to the games AND be against the ownership, the two are not mutually exclusive. 

    Where has this rule come from that you can’t judge people for their actions?

     

    People are allowed to do what they like, and other people are allowed to say it’s embarrassing behaviour that deserves to be ridiculed. The shoe is on the other foot now. People aren’t just going to let it go.

     

    And to anyone who says going doesn’t make you complicit: nonsense. Boycotts and disruptive protests attract the interest of the media, that causes pressure on individuals and humiliation for the ownership. For an owner who only cares about his money and his reputation, that would have made a difference.

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  3. Put this on the other thread only semi-seriously but it would be nice if the fans turned up and blocked the entrances so none of the players could get in.


    Forcing the game to be abandoned has to be the only reason to turn up. Blackpool did that under Oyston. Chants are utterly irrelevant and unsuitable for the situation.

  4. I don’t think we can say any rot set in this season, we were doomed well before. The players never had the will and all the infrastructure and culture at the club has been causing problems for years. You could see from the first game of the season that we were a poor side.

     

    I had issues with the ownership before Top was in charge, including some pitiful managerial appointments, but on the pitch we generally got away with it and / or thrived in spite of that. Still, you could argue Puel, with his negative possession football and playing down of the club’s potential, was an early warning sign of what was to come.

     

    Interesting to see most people finally agreeing that the culture under Rodgers was the most destructive thing. Yes, sorry to repeat it but it was obvious to some at the time. Pandering to managers who are clearly in it for themselves only erodes the spirit of the club, that spread to the fans, and the standards withered away. We had so much talent in that squad, and we were convinced no manager could do any better. Meanwhile he was dismantling it systematically and psychologically.

     

    I’d argue finishing 5th in 2020 should have been a red flag. The players underperformed, showed no fight, had a second-half of the season collapse, played the ball around the back with no urgency. These things, along with the awful recruitment that began under Rodgers and Congerton, are the most significant in our demise, and they’ve happened in every season since, even under Maresca when, again, we got away with it.
     

    We have been mentally weak, tactically inept and financially reckless to the extreme since that time. It’s a habit, a culture and a mindset. Top treated Rodgers like he was a saviour, like we were a nothing club, he gave him all the power until it was obvious he’d pissed it up the wall and we couldn’t afford to trust him again.
     

    Everyone, including the fans, started to believe the narrative that Rodgers made a silk purse out of a sow’s ear. It became a self-fulfilling prophecy. Now we clap getting relegated to League One. There was never enough pressure on the hierarchy to make changes. To sack Rodgers, to sack Rudkin, to sell the club That comes from the media, but it starts with the fans getting the message across to the point where the media find it interesting enough to latch on to.

     

    Anyway, if we start a phoenix club, it should be based on the idea that no one is bigger than the club. 

     

     

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  5. This club is the epitome of ‘couldn’t hit water if we fell out of a boat’. Everyone we hire or sign, you know they are going to be awful. And yet they manage to perform below your very low expectations.

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  6. 2 minutes ago, SafewayFox said:

    What do these heinous dossers practice all week?

     

    I came home and put the TV on a few minutes before they scored.

     

    Had it on the radio and TalkSport were going in on the players/manager.

     

    I don’t want to see ANY of the players/manager/coaches (including Kingy) ever again after the Blackburn game.

    Why even wait? Block the stadium entrance so they can’t get in.

  7. I don’t usually bother with the player threads but I really can’t stand this guy. Clearly doesn’t take his well paid job seriously at all. There’s so many clips of him strolling around, not sprinting to close shots down, etc.

     

    Prime example of a bad egg in a squad of bad eggs.

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  8. 3 hours ago, Foxin_Mad said:

    Problem is, young players get played, make a mistake like Musaka and then get booed. As stupid as it is managers will rightly protect young players from that as it’s not going to help them. Look at Jacob and Ben, they are both semi reasonable players in a squad with confidence, they are making silly errors in a team under pressure. Exposing young players to this pressure now is probably not going to help them, they need to be winning at a lower level.

    With all due respect, their careers are secondary to the club’s future.

     

    It’s worth the risk of knocking their confidence to salvage our Championship status. Otherwise they shouldn’t have been signed to professional contracts.

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  9. 1 minute ago, CosbehFox said:


    Soyuncu was shit for Atletico. He played just six games. Yeah I haven’t debated Barnes and I haven’t debated that team should have been good enough to beat Forest. 

     

    Schmeichel failed at Nice, took an easy number at Anderlecht but didn’t win anything and now he’s lost his way at Celtic. 
     

    You keep making this about Rodgers and it’s not about him.
     

    It’s the criticism that the club stepped away from the system what had worked so well for them. The point that the squad needed a refresh was valid - our back five that day was Ward, Thomas, Amartey, Soyuncu, Justin. Only Justin signed during Rodgers and he was a low risk signing too. 

    The squad did not need a refresh because we lost to Forest. The squad needed maintenance the same as any other squad does, but there was never any excuse for being hammered by a Championship team in a local derby.
     

    Rodgers’ argument that we needed an overhaul because that group of players wasn’t good enough to beat Forest was obviously untrue and was obviously a lie spun by him to save his job. That was obvious on the day and it’s obvious now. 

     

    Frankly, Rodgers apologists are even worse that KP apologists. I’m done with anyone who defends him. 

  10. 3 minutes ago, SecretPro said:

    Not dedending the players am I you moron. 

     

    Just willing to accept the club is a failure from top to bottom, including the manager. Its really not rocket science. 

    The suggestion from some that the players are bad so the manager can’t possibly make bad decisions shows a complete lack of nuanced critical thinking.

     

    The owner we all hate employed them all so no idea why slating the manager is considered a defence of the owner or the players. Nobody should escape the scathing criticism. They’re all earning far too much money.

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  11. 2 minutes ago, FreoBondy said:

    Not sure I agree with this. Personally think the club thought they were a big club, but had people managing it that were way out of their depth, and belong at a small club.

    There’s an element of that in the spending, yes. But the managers were not interested in ambition or standards, they constantly talked the club down. As soon as we started to underachieve, Top was telling us to be grateful. We never appointed serious managers with potential, just losers on the cheap. The players weren’t committed or good enough, and none of these people were hounded out by the fans. The fans were complicit.

     

    I’m not talking about relegation or financial collapse. The death of the club, for me, is in years of self-hatred and acceptance of disrespect. I can never say we’re a big club anymore because our own fans loved KPFC so much and LCFC so little. 

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  12. Regardless of whether we go out of business, I can never say with a straight face that we are a serious club ever again.
     

    Plenty of big clubs have gone down to League One and retained their pride, traditions and identity. They’ve continued to maintain that their club is a big, proud club massively underachieving. Sheff Wednesday, Leeds, Southampton, Norwich, etc. Forest even. Forest constantly overrate themselves FFS. I’d do anything to have arrogant fans like Forest rather than cucks. Being a proud club is about adamantly talking yourselves up. None of those clubs get huge crowds compared to us, none of them consistently compete in the top flight, none of them win trophies. But they don’t accept anyone telling them they aren’t massive.

     

    It’s more than just what division we’re in, it’s the attitude of us as a club. We haven’t got one. We’re dead, we can never be proud of our club again because everyone involved in it from players to managers to owners to fans said we’re a small club. And nobody corrected them.

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  13. I’d be ashamed if I was paying to watch them every week, because that would be a personal choice to let low lives take advantage of me.

     

    If I still felt associated with what the club is, rather than what the club was, maybe I’d be angry. 
     

    But there’s nothing left to be ashamed of or angry at. When we went down in 2008 I was gutted and embarrassed, we’d lost our record and given every other fan the right to laugh at us.
     

    But this time, not so much. Because that happened years ago. It happened when we allowed the likes of Puel and Rodgers to drag the club’s name through the mud without being sacked on the spot. It happened when our own fans started calling us a small club, a championship club, lucky to be in the top 5, then lucky to be in the top half, then lucky to be in the prem, then lucky to have King Power.

     

    I don’t associate with these people. You should acknowledge you’re better than the majority of our fanbase and let go. I’m no more than disappointed. This was inevitable because this is where our club believes it should be. No club with our amount of fans should believe it’s outside the top 20 clubs in this country but our fans did. They deserve this.

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  14. A win for the everyman, the little guy, as usual! It’s miraculous how the biggest owner and trainer with a huge proportion of the runners have managed to dominate the placings.

     

    ’The people’s race’ 😂

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