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18 minutes ago, Foxdiamond said:

Assuming John Healey is correct. How does government raise funds for increased defence spending?

Yep. 

A point that needs to be made and repeated for emphasis for everyone here, is that no matter where you siphon from the budget, it will result in unnecessary suffering and harm to people who in no way deserve it. Either now or in the very near future.

There is no ideal solution besides doing something to increase the overall budget to be utilised, but that's hardly ideal in actually making it work. 

4 minutes ago, Foxdiamond said:

Sounds fair. Does that mean we should see it more outside of political displays?

Absolutely, though people's definition of "political display" on this one may be pretty varied, sadly. 

16 minutes ago, Foxdiamond said:

How then do good hearted people reclaim their flag or should it only be flown by official authorities?

Possibly by marginalising, in every possible way, the movements and organisations that are using it maliciously. That's the way it was reclaimed in the late 80s/early 90's.

12 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

One of the coolest June 11th on record in e England 

 

More grist to the mill for those highlighting the extremes rather than those who will no doubt use today’s miserable chill to question where global warming has gone. (The answer atm is Russia, especially nw Siberia which is some 10/15c above average) 

It's always been about the extremes (plural) rather than the extreme (singular) as a consequence anyway. Anyone thinking otherwise is either misinformed or trying for some kind of daft or flat out maliciously misinformed gotcha.

1 minute ago, JonnyBoy said:

 

classic "BS" when there isn't a decent counter argument to conjure up. Everyone entitled to opinions on this Forum Raj, i have seen you with some pretty below the bar posts in the past!

 

 

I think @LCFCJohn made a pretty decent summation above.

9 minutes ago, LCFCJohn said:

Well no it’s not is it…

Social media and rumour has a lot to answer for. 

Sounds like a principled resignation from a principled man. 

It seems that pretty much every government area (other than the subsidy for the bar in the HoP) is strapped for cash right now. Goodness only knows how that gets solved without a struggle. 

Just now, bovril said:

I think the "it's all the fault of the Jews" was probably the final straw

Looks like I missed a pretty thrilling denouement there. Damn shame. 

1 hour ago, LCFCJohn said:

The point was of overall risk as Mac said below your reply.

 

That was not to take away from the crime and for me, the perpetrator of the initial crime could be dumped over the side of a boat in the Atlantic for all I care. 
 

The point was, the response to these, what are isolated incidents regardless of yes, the extreme severity, is more widely negatively impacting upon communities. These people claim to be standing up for ‘whites’ but white people in Belfast have had their houses burned down. Innocent people of a different colour, on their way to work in the hospitals and contribute to our society are getting attacked and intimidated. 
 

It’s not the answer. Tackle the smuggling gangs. The justice system should be tougher for all (yes even the lovely little white teenagers who take knives to school), the benefit system should be more stringent, again for all.

 

Sort that stuff out, as a country, we will naturally be appealing for those who come for the right reasons and contribute to society and less so for those who don’t want to contribute or have good intentions.

 

All this lumping everyone who has a different colour skin with the individuals who are wastes of oxygen like this one in Belfast, Southport attacker, Nottingham etc isn’t actually achieving anything.

58 minutes ago, foxfanazer said:

Couldn't agree more

And this is what cooler heads prevailing looks like. Bravo. 

If only there was more of that out in the wider world right now. 

6 minutes ago, foxfanazer said:

What's that supposed to mean? He's only not dead because somebody was brave enough to stop him. The intent was to kill

 

I'm not saying that what's happened since is in anyway justified or less of a threat to society but the post I quoted seemed conveniently unbalanced 

I mean that this crime is apparently being viewed as more grotesque than various other assaults resulting in grievous injury because of the way it was carried out, and, dare I say it, the demographic of the perpetrator.

People are, of course, welcome to hold that viewpoint. 

A further point is that all these inflamed tensions and driven anger is just going to result in a lot more innocent people being harmed for no reason at all - before cooler heads prevail, as they should do from the start. 

1 minute ago, foxfanazer said:

*An immigrant in the streets trying to behead someone 

The point still stands in terms of overall risk, which is a point a lot of people appear to be missing giving both the coverage and anger-inducing nature of the incident. Which is understandable in its own way. 

Dead is dead, harmed is harmed. 

Not sure how legit this is, but got a laugh out of me nevertheless:

38 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

Capitalism and free market economy.

Without effective regulation, yes. 

Perhaps it's a little too rose-tinted a look; goodness knows there were some horrible places in the early days of the Net. But the idea of spouting lies and slop hadn't been monetised, and so was far less prevalent. 

11 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

It’s the ‘art of the deal’ 😂😂

It's not even funny anymore imo. 

In fact it wasn't really even funny at the start, but now all the death and suffering has started piling up, it's even less so. 

3 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

When he says he’s going to do something it often means he isn’t …..

 

Maybe so. 

Perhaps as a people we might expect a bit more honesty of purpose from the holder of the highest political office on Earth, though. Just a thought. 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce371kw2ex2o

President Donald Trump has said the US will hit Iran "hard" on Wednesday, after the two sides exchanged strikes overnight.

"We hit them hard yesterday and we're going to hit them hard again today," he said, speaking to reporters in the Oval Office. He also reiterated a call for Iran to "sign a deal".

Iran's president Masoud Pezeshkian said in a post on X following Trump's briefing that Iran "will stand firm against any pressure or threat".

For a "no wars" President, he certainly seems to be fond of this one. 

https://phys.org/news/2026-06-odds-climb-el-nio-25c.html

https://phys.org/news/2026-06-freshwater-boundary-breach-deepens-climate.html

The latest. 

https://phys.org/news/2026-06-fragmented-environmental-policies-failures-experts.html

https://phys.org/news/2026-06-greater-international-cooperation-global-forest.html

A reminder of just how few favours being tribal and divided does our species or its future. 

9 minutes ago, DennisNedry said:

To be frank I think having a travel ban from Somalia can only be a good thing. I'd back the same here.

 

However, there must surely be some common sense in allowing the referee into the Country, if he's got all the necessary paperwork and no criminal record.

Common sense towards someone like this referee given the current situation?

Chance would be a fine thing. 

20 minutes ago, Rubbersoul said:

Always wonder how different things would be in this country if Trump never won and just faded in obscurity.

 

Would everyone be as crazy? 

Think you could extrapolate that line of thought to the world, tbh. 

And for me, the answer is very different. In all likelihood, but not certainly, better. Almost certainly more socially stable. 

The baffling (though not really) thing is not how he won the first time, but how he managed it the second time in spite of inciting a legislative coup attempt and having hundreds of thousands of bodies on this watch thanks to a virus he didn't take in any way seriously. It speaks to the degree of subversion of the very idea of truth that is present today (and that he indulges in practically all the time) that that could happen.

19 minutes ago, Lionator said:

According to the State Department the Somalian referee had links to terror organisations so I guess it makes sense why he wasn’t allowed in. 

Who are well known for their honesty and probity when it comes to Somalian nationals under this current administration. 

30 minutes ago, Officer Doofy said:

I was alluding to all of the current private investors who got in before IPO who will more than likely use this event as a liquidity opportunity to dump their cheap shares and become millionaires. 

 

 

It's almost as if the whole thing is a well engineered racket where the ones on the inside are the only winners.

2 minutes ago, Lionator said:

No ideally I want somebody who is ahead of the curve, who is charismatic and governs in the way that they said they would. 

Either a Carney or an Albanese style figure, off the top of my head, would be good right now. 

Burnham looks like he could have at least something of the former. 

I mean...