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Not sure how anybody can hate on Danny, poor bastard has to work extremely hard with Mahrez in front of him and most of the time does his job, quietly, effectively and deceptively well. As defensive RBs go, I can't pick many better than him in this league, and I'm not taking the piss either. Weak link in defence is Wes. His time is done. 

Just now, Voll Blau said:

 

Basically this. From the emergency services' point of view it is sensible to err on the side of caution before announcing an official figure publicly on missing and/or dead for the reasons I listed above.

 

You've every right to be angry at the authorities, as most of us are, for various things to do with this tragedy. Your belief the government is managing to "control the story" (for want of a better phrase) is misplaced though.

I still wouldn't be so sure on that. There will no doubt be Government officials, MP's etc involved in the various failings relating to the case, most likely Tory politicians too. The last things Teresa May needs right now is bad press so I'd bank on her making sure no unwanted 'information' slips through the net right now.

7 minutes ago, DJ Barry Hammond said:

 

Getting back at her for disturbing her Royal Ascot week!

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2 minutes ago, KingGTF said:

 

Of course you can be outraged that it's happened and it seems ignorance has played it's part. I just don't get the need to accuse the government of already covering it up by a slow release of death totals, with absolutely no idea of the operational logistics. 

 

I personally would rather let things run their course and see what the outcome is rather than deciding people will get away with it, there will be a massive cover up, and that theres an inherent problem with governance in this country. If it seems dodgy after that, then is the time to question it.

 

 

Fine, as long as it doesn't take 30 years a la Hillsborough

2 minutes ago, KingGTF said:

 

No she did actually speak to people at the sports centre people have been staying at

I'd expect her to have. Show's May is a massive cnut then.

1 minute ago, KingGTF said:

 

They have reports of 450 people missing, knowing full well that isn't possible given the amount of people that have reported themselves as safe, apparently one person has been reported missing 46 times. They are dealing with several residents who didn't speak great English who may have not made themselves known yet in all the confusion.

 

I don't know why there's always a desire to be outraged and make accusations when you have no idea on the running of the operation. Let them get on with it and if in a x time it seems like there has been a cover up or something dodgy has occurred, then you can go into a fit of rage

I am allowed to be outraged. This thing happening in the first place is an outrage. Anybody wanting to defend ignoring the long list of warnings, concerns, unsafe building materials, doing things on the cheap, quangos running social housing is lost on me. The blame game will start soon and then everybody will get away with it in some way shape or form. That;s just everything that's wrong with this country and it's governance in the modern world.

1 minute ago, DJ Barry Hammond said:

 

Oh... and the Queen's visited now (as I expected she might). 

Did she refuse to see the residents too?

37 minutes ago, Voll Blau said:

You're talking about a disaster which, without wanting to be graphic, has no doubt left dozens of unidentifiable bodies littered all over the charred remains of a huge building. Why would the public bodies responsible for conducting the search who HAVE been issuing information - i.e. the fire service and police, NOT the government - in their right minds publish information about a disaster on this scale without being absolutely certain of its accuracy?

 

Say, hope beyond hope, someone is found alive in there but they've already officially been pronounced dead by the Met/LFB? Imagine the flack they'd, rightly, take from everyone.

 

The government/relevant authorities are rightly coming under scrutiny for this, but you're the one being naive in this instance.

You seem to have missed the part where I said fair enough not releasing the number of dead. My main issue is there have been no figures relating to the missing? It's usually one of the first statistics we get with disasters. It's been over 48 hours, the 'missing' would have been confirmed a long time before now. That would give the public a general sense of scale.

1 hour ago, Voll Blau said:

The government have nothing to do with it. It's down to the Met/fire service.

 

To release information without being 100% sure would be irresponsible in the extreme. 

I think that's naive. The Government will of course have a hand in what information is released, especially when they have been accused of not listening to the residents for the last 10 years. Fair enough, they might not be able to confirm the dead, but they haven't even said how many are 'missing' which doesn't seem normal to me. 

We know whoever was left in the building is dead and we know the number of people missing. The Government trying to soften us with low and slowly creeping death tolls to try and divert away from the true scale frankly sickens me. This will scream cover up in the end

May was a wrongen the moment she slipped the snoopers charter through without due process. I will never vote for her on that alone. As for her personal traits, clearly lacks any emotional attachment to the real world and every day human beings. To not even be arsed to show any compassion for the victims in this instance shows how rotten she is beneath that leathery skin. She's awful. This situation is awful and her government is at least partly to blame. 

Also, in respect of the quango organisation in control of the social housing in the borough, have they even released a statement yet? They have likely spent the last 48 hours running around trying their best to cover up any failings and inadequacy. I think the police should have hit that department asap and took control of paperwork, IT systems etc so there can be no coverup attempts. Heads need to roll for this yet someone everyone will get away with it through the usual blame shifting. The whole thing is a disgrace. 

He is dogshit but I'll give him a chance. 

I've watched every game he's played over the last two seasons. He had never had a bad one. I like him, always looks comfortable, can play with his feet and also puts a really good shift in, stands up too rather than hitting the ground. Good player, and good replacement next season when one of the others is sent off to the knackers yard. Why he's ever received stick on here is well beyond me. 

If someone gets hold of a decent stream please can you PM me?

Imagine winning the lottery and spending the lot on a brand spanking new Yacht and then watching it sink on its maiden voyage. That's how I feel about Musa. 

7 minutes ago, Babylon said:

Perhaps we should judge new players from this point ownwards. Last night was about the only time the whole lot of them haven't looked dog turd, put a new signing into that team performance and they'd get dragged along with the rest.

Agreed but I do think Musa is particularly poor. I'll reserve judgement on Mendy and Amartey until they have been played properly and in Amarteys case his favoured position. Ndidi though....What a player we have there. 

He will be here for a long time once we have won the champions league

COULD be better than Kante with his added aerial ability. 

Have to say I have always had a deep unexplainable love for Writey. "Michael, go home." 

9 minutes ago, dpjfox said:

he is a threat attacking but doesnt have defesive duty mentallity, keep on the bench for counter attack threat if needed

He does love to drive forwards....and then run it out of play.

Let's never play him again. Gray must feel suicidal everytime Musa gets picked ahead of him. Should be a criminal offence. 

3 minutes ago, maddog said:

Just seen the miss on the highlights...

 

One of the worst I've ever seen from a Leicester player really. Just how has he not simply lashed it in.

Good job it wasn't Slimani or a few on here would be burning his house down right now. It's lovable Shinji though so nevermind. 

I've seen less poo in my toilet. Not just Shinji though, the quality of football from the likes of Musa and Mendy is beyond a joke for what we paid for them. Utter poo poo smelly bob poo with sweetcorn in. 

tripe.