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1 hour ago, lcfcsnow said:

Anyone have any suggestions for a holiday in the uk with young children (5 years old)? The last few years we have stayed in cottages which has been fine, but we stayed at a farm once which was great as it had things to do like a play room and swings etc around the farm so I'd prefer somewhere that has those facilities.

Humble Bee Farm in Yorkshire is fab, and Peppa Pig world near Southampton has accommodation and is also great for small children

13 hours ago, Thracian said:

I referred to a list of residents earlier, wondering where it was because it's obvious there are more victims. It was obvious from the time the building was seen burning. Why is there no official list of residents? Or visitors, temporary or otherwise?.

 

What is the truth?  And why is it not coming out? Someone must know or be able to make a pretty informed guess about how many people were likely to have been in that building. 

 

There were 120 one and two-bedroomed flats in that building. So would that be two people to the one-bedroomed and four for the two-bedroomed - notionally around 360 people depending on the numbers of each type of flat?

 

That would suggest a figure approaching 300 missing people, assuming all the flats were occupied and all the tenants were home, which wouldn't necessarily be so. But even half that would be 150, still a significant number. 

 

And maybe some flats had more occupants  - more small children, people staying temporarily (officially or otherwise), and some short-term visitors....why is it so hard to come up with a realistic calculation using the council's data and local knowledge?

 

There are many other questions for a later time but I also wonder if there's more to this than meets the eye.

 

I've listened to two mighty fine orators being interviewed so far - two out of two and both speaking at great length, with much thought and with great impact.

 

It's a small sample but it still doesn't quite ring right.

 

It's as if the situation's being manipulated way beyond residents' outpouring of grief and despair.

 

I could be wrong of course.. 

 

But, either way, Mrs May will be gone, trapped in a vacuum of inadequacy she couldn't escape.

 

And the tragedy of Grenfell Tower will become a sad but significant mark in our history.    

 

  

 

          

The figure given by the council of households rehomed after the fire is 107. So I'm not sure where the figure of missing people you give comes from? Using your own calculations that must equate to over 300 people rehomed, and not missing.

5 minutes ago, Buce said:

 

Maybe this might help you understand:

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40312564

Yes I'd read that. But also the BBC report that most people have been given places to stay. 

4 hours ago, yorkie1999 said:

Worrying.

 

 

I might be being incredibly naive here and have misunderstood the situation, but haven't the survivors been rehomed or at least moved to hotels? Not really sure why they'd be hanging around at the bottom of their burnt out previous home, unless still looking for loved ones, but again why would anyone still be there? Obviously I don't know when this footage was shot. 

Can anyone recommend a good painter and decorator please? I'm in south Leicester. 

Booked a last minute week to Kefalonia. Anyone been and knows what we must do or should avoid? We're hiring a car and want to drive up the mountain, and I was thinking about a boat trip to Zante to see the shipwreck on the beach. 

@the-blue-wildabeast was very friendly and met as arranged. Thanks again, great seller, below face value too, much appreciated :-)

Just took my car to be cleaned inside and out. It was so filthy it was embarrassing, and I apologised to them. It's almost like driving a brand new car now though.

1 hour ago, Leicester69 said:

First time looking at this thread, and loads of good shouts/shows that I've watched...but hopefully a couple that haven't been mentioned, certainly not on the last few pages anyway!

 

The Good Wife, 6-7 seasons of Chicago Law firm legal drama with some complex character twists/sub-plots etc. Well worth a watch and a new spin off just started called the Good Fight. On More4/E4 originally.

 

Fringe, originally on Sky 1 or Sky Atlantic, not sure how to describe it other than a secret division of the police, investigating strange deaths/events with a time travel back and forth/parallel universe twist. Great characters and the lead woman is absolute top totty. And just for once a great ending.

 

Newsroom, great show and great characters, all played out following the major news events. Although it is a US show the news events are relevant, Obama elected, Bin Laden shot, etc,etc so easy to follow...plus Olivia Munn!

 

and surely someone has given a shout out to Lost somewhere on this thread....had me hooked for years and remember getting up in the middle of the night to watch the last episode shown here at the same time as shown in the US...my wife and I didn't speak for two days as she said the ending was crap, I thought it was great!

 

More light hearted...Catastrophe is well worth a watch albeit the most recent episodes getting a little repetitive!

 

And great shout earlier...Prison Break new series is so bad...should have ended this at least 2 series ago!

 

Still don't think you can beat GoT though, looking forward to series 7

I loved the Good Wife, thanks for the heads up on the spin off, I haven't seen that. Also love Catastrophe, although I haven't got round to watching the latest ones yet. 

I like Grace and Frankie, that's pretty light hearted, probably a bit girlie though. I also love Orange is the new black, again probably more a woman's show though. 

3 minutes ago, Royston. said:

How many years til the sun explodes/implodes and the world ends?

27

33 minutes ago, Tuna said:

Also enjoying Line Of Duty, I think the show is brilliantly acted, but the plot is absolutely ridiculous. It's all about the interrogation scenes, everything else preceding it is just flim-flam.

 

I've been in love with Thandie since Mission Impossible 2, and she adds real movie star glamour to the role and she's excellent, I've always liked Adrian Dunbar's supt Hastings (loving the way he calls anyone who pisses him off 'fella') top acting from these 2 in last night's interrogation scene.

 

 

I absolutely love this, best thing on normal TV at the minute imo. Agree that the plot is a bit far fetched, but very clever and always leaves me looking forward to the next episode

1 minute ago, SystonFox said:

Do you have a ticket for Everton (h)? Willing to pay in inflatable dinosaurs yer bellend

I might have, not sure yet, if everyone sends me a DM I won't bother coming back and letting you know

People who post requests in the tickets forum with no manners, don't people say please anymore? 

Also people who post saying they may have a ticket available, they don't know. Why not just post if it is available? Or do they just want loads of messages?

15 minutes ago, ozleicester said:

But how far must you reduce it... not getting drunk... not going out at night... not leaving your house at all. All of these things increase your risk... but YOU are not responsible, you should be able to do these things... and if women are told that they shouldnt "do that, go there, drink that"... we are placing some responsibility on them.

Any victim of any crime, whether sexual assault or not, is never actually responsible for the crime as they didn't commit it. But what we are all responsible for is reducing our risk, and I really can't see why rape is treated any differently. I know in an ideal world I should be able to do these things, but the fact is I would be putting myself at risk, and my risk is my responsibility

6 minutes ago, ozleicester said:

so to be clear.... if a woman is raped she is in someway responsible?

Obviously it depends on the circumstances, but I believe every time we take risks we should be prepared to take responsibility for the possible outcome. Not all rapes happen in the same circumstances so of course not every woman is in some way responsible. But reducing your vulnerability is common sense, surely?

4 minutes ago, ozleicester said:

Seriously...I am not for one minute suggesting that your or Webbo think  they are responsible. I appreciate that what you are saying is meant and held with the very best intentions.

 

But everyone of those statements reinforces a belief that women are in someway responsible and those women who suffer.. then have to deal with that added suffering that... because they "got drunk.. went out in the dark... wore a short skirt" they have to accept some responsibility.

 

 

I never lock my car on my driveway, despite knowing car thieves exist. If it gets stolen, it will be partly my fault. Sometimes I forget to lock my front door at night. If I get burgled it will be partly down to me and my stupidity, I should know better. If I go out tonight and get blind drunk, make a complete show of myself and decide it's a good idea to walk home alone, why shouldn't I share some of the blame if something happens? Maybe I should be able to, but the fact is that these arseholes do exist, so why wouldn't I do everything I can to reduce my risk, and share some responsibility for my own well being?

I know what to do to reduce the risk, should I not bother trying to stay safe because it wouldn't be my fault if something happened to me? There are lots of things we all do every day to reduce risks, a woman taking steps to ensure she is not vulnerable should be no different.

People randomly bumping old threads to spout nonsense

10 minutes ago, m4DD0gg said:

Kodi streams these days are so unreliable it almost makes it not worth bothering any more.

 

I cannot comment on the paid ones as i dont have one but trying to find anything for the cup tie right now is impossible.

For anything on Sky or BT I use Mobdro on my Android tablet, more reliable than Kodi.

Apologies if this has already been mentioned, but Exodus has disappeared from my list on Kodi. Has it gone?

17 minutes ago, cambridgefox said:

I'm originally from a small village and few hundred metres from my mums house this happened on Friday.

T

 

Speeding by the looks of it maybe, and not paying attention

2 hours ago, seanfox778 said:

Can you take a portable phone charger on a plane? If so, is it advised to put it in carry on luggage or hold luggage?

Yes I've taken mine and always in my hand luggage. 

4 minutes ago, Firegrande said:

Seems to be a lot of professional food critics on here 

Nah, to be a professional I'd have to paid. Just a critic 

1 hour ago, Webbo said:

Personally I love butter. I put it in my tea.