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2 hours ago, sylofox said:

It's not just about match day. It's corporate use 24/7 that the east stand does not have atm. Just as the arena won't be just sports n music if it ever happens.

Corporate can use it 24/7 now. 

This isn't the silver bullet that makes us a top team.

The gate receipts in 2022 were 21 million. A 25% increase in capacity will assuming we sell out every week will see roughly a 25% increase in matchday revenue.  Let's say 6 or 7 million pounds. A lot of that money will be needed to service the loan. This isn't going to be the game changer people imagine.

3 minutes ago, davieG said:

They'd need to get full planning for the Arena/Hotel first I think we'd have heard about that if that was happening and surely you wouldn't get a loan before you had full approval especially if there's a chance of interests rates going down. Unless they think they'll shoot back up again.

I don't think the loan will be anything to do with the stadium, just cash flow  like in the past.

57 minutes ago, Paninistickers said:

I lean towards the thought that the hotels etc are the Trojan Horse for us to fund the stadium. Find some Asian pension fund that takes the bait and buys bonds in the whole scheme 

I think it'll be something like that. 

1 minute ago, whoareyaaa said:

We have just employed a manager they sacked, we are going backwards and have been for years, under Enzo it at least felt like we getting back on track.

What's any of that got to do with the stadium?

5 hours ago, Dickov22 said:

England job looks out of his grasp 

Points deduction now not a thing 

 

Could we tempt Graham Potter?

To a club that sacks managers after 4 games when they're not even in the bottom 3?

Probably not.

1 hour ago, South Notts NFFC said:

Out of interest, in the 4 games you've had in the league, what has Cooper done to cause the mass vitriol?

 

From the outside it seemed like some wanted him gone before a ball had been kicked or even before he'd signed!

Welcome to foxestalk.  Hate for the sake of hating.

I'm sceptical whether expansion makes economic sense. Ticket sales are a small of the clubs income now. A 25% increase in capacity and therefore a 25% increase in ticket revenue isn't going to be a game changer even if we sell out every week. A lot of the extra income would have service the debt anyway.

The way things are going, I can see every game televised in this country in a few years, which is bound to affect the gate. We could end up with a white elephant. 

2 hours ago, Daggers said:

 

Well, there's folks who pay women to tread on their bollocks, so that figures, I guess.

With my looks? I don't need to pay

2 minutes ago, Webbo said:

3 years ago we won the cup.

Last season we were promoted.

2 hours ago, 1972 Fox said:

Yes I agree and if we carry on as we have for the last 3 years, it's likely to be sooner than we would want.

3 years ago we won the cup.

3 hours ago, Daggers said:

I don’t need to, I’ve found almost all of that in non-league.

 

You keep on sticking up for those who are pissing on you and telling you it’s raining.

Good for you, I like being in the Premier league.

5 hours ago, honeybradger said:

We're a football team, we're not going to give him gametime as a charity exercise.

 

Jeremy Monga is one of the best talents we have produced in a long time, he's not a "school kid" he's a potential 8 figure asset that we need to be careful to hold on to.

 

There's a good chance that giving Monga more incentive to stay with us than to move to a big 6 side will benefit us more than it does Monga.

He's still at school. He's a school kid.

11 minutes ago, Gamble92 said:

I hear you but don't underestimate just how unbelievably bad we have been run for years. 

We got relegated,  so did 2 other teams. 3 teams will be relegated this season. It happens.  I've seen us relegated many times before and I'll see it again.

Changing the owners will achieve nothing and will probably make things worse.

2 minutes ago, Daggers said:

I’ll bite.

 

Signings, onfield performance, managers, trophies - all irrelevant.

 

I want new owners who will value fans as fans, cap tickets at affordable prices, implement safe standing, encourage the growth of a singing area and support its use of TIFOs, scraps the membership scheme and current form of ticket sales that cements miserable curmudgeons in for life, abolish the £25 fee for season ticket cards, engage with fan groups and representatives in meaningful and frequent dialogue which is assessed by measurable outcomes (with the club’s representatives facing agreed sanctions if they fail to meet them), and regular communication across the season from department heads and owners in live online interviews to explain their actions, outcomes and take online questions.

 

All told, to give real fans a sense of ownership of the club and be treated with respect rather than the abject shit show of disrespect we have endured across multiple seasons.

 

And if the new owners don’t provide most or all of that, I’d be demanding newer new owners.

Dream on.

4 minutes ago, Grebfromgrebland said:

We should look at loaning good prospects to OH Leuven if we think they're good enough. 

I think we all assumed that would happen when they were took over. I'm not sure why it hasn't happened.  I know the last manager seemed to not pick our players on principle,  whether the new guy is the same  

5 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

If we build a track record for developing academy players through to the 1st team, which we've done well at times but in others been slow to bring players through, then it will help prevent these youngsters going elsewhere.

 

It doesn't change overnight but I agree with you that we can't just play a 15 year old if they aren't ready to try and stop them possibly leaving. 

 

We know a few have left which is disappointing so the goal has got to be to build an environment that's as good as anything in the country, it's do-able. A lot of the hard work here has been in progress for the last decade.

We all want that, but are we a football team or a factory for producing other teams talent? 

The team has to come first.

2 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

The culture of our club should support that which doesn't change over night but needs to be a priority of ours.

Eh?

1 hour ago, honeybradger said:

Pathway to first team football mate, not consistent minutes. Give him some some minutes in the league cup and FA cup and assure him that he will be around the matchday squad in 3 or so seasons and he will stay.

He 15 years old playing for the under 21s, unless you know for sure that's he's demanding first team football thats plenty? There's no evidence to suggest he is but if he was, too bad.

Pandering to school children is no way to run any business 

4 hours ago, Gamble92 said:

Who's they? 

 

When Vichai and Top arrived they chucked money at it so carelessly to absolutely no avail and until Pearson came in we were heading the exact same way as Mel Morris' Derby. If you want to attribute all the success down to ownership because it's their money that bankrolled the staff eventually recommended to them (that they'd also made sure were sacked before they arrived) then fine. 

 

I think it's this kind of really weak argument that has enabled the catastrophic failure of the last few years and we just, and I mean just, keep getting away with it. They got out the Championship first time like they absolutely needed to. They've somehow avoided a points deduction. Yet we see no obvious signs they're learning from their mistakes. 

 

We should be grateful for those who have got us out of the mess that those at the top have created, but we shouldn't be letting them get away with it. 

So let's just say the owners sell up, what are you expecting from the new guys? Do you think we'll be permanent members of the top 6, we'll never make a bad signing, players or managers,  we'll never get relegated? 

If it was that easy why hasn't every other club that's been taken over achieved the same thing?

The job is Carsley's to lose. He'd have to have a disastrous few games not to get it.

16 minutes ago, Webbo said:

Kasey coming on.

K'Nell Kasey, that was embarrassing. 

Kasey coming on.

2 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

He's not been scoring 5 goals a season all his life because he's secretly very good.

I hope Ipswich kept the receipt.