Macca4lcfc Posted 4 September 2004 Posted 4 September 2004 those russian terrorists.Why take school children hostage? and the russian army or whatever it was that went in did a shit job. I bet england and america wouldnt have taken so long to get in there and sort it out
Teeno Posted 4 September 2004 Posted 4 September 2004 It is a very sad disgusting event, but theres no need for critising the Russian army, I'm sure they did thier very best to sort it out. Its not as easy as it sounds if they did anything to distress the terrorist then they could of just blew the whole place up. I can't understand how people can be so evil though. My thoughts are with the victims families some of whom were 4 or 5 years old
dhermon Posted 4 September 2004 Posted 4 September 2004 It is a very sad disgusting event, but theres no need for critising the Russian army, I'm sure they did thier very best to sort it out. Its not as easy as it sounds if they did anything to distress the terrorist then they could of just blew the whole place up. I can't understand how people can be so evil though.My thoughts are with the victims families some of whom were 4 or 5 years old 17007[/snapback] please the army has been doing wrong over there for a long time why do u think the group called themselves black widows the women are wives of men who have been killed by the army but this will never help anyone just bring more death and hardship when will the world learn maybe at the next game there could be a minutes silence to remember those that died.
filbertway Posted 4 September 2004 Posted 4 September 2004 all war stems on religion in some way, why not lose religion and all have one religion.
filbertway Posted 4 September 2004 Posted 4 September 2004 no sorry thts stupid, lets not have religion at all
Benji Posted 4 September 2004 Posted 4 September 2004 even if its something that people live by and gives them a reason to live?
kerryh Posted 5 September 2004 Posted 5 September 2004 It is so sad what happened - but the Russian Army notoriously cock everything up. Remember the submarine thing a couple of years ago, they all died too.
Hullfox Posted 5 September 2004 Posted 5 September 2004 It is so sad what happened - but the Russian Army notoriously cock everything up. Remember the submarine thing a couple of years ago, they all died too. 17085[/snapback] Might that not have been the navy? Seems to me that when a group of terrorists who have no demands but are sworn to kill and be killed take over 1000 hostages including children, lock them in one room with explosives placed at high points all around, there is not going to be a good outcome. This is not like some Hollywood movie, nobody can control that. Thankfully this sort of thing has not happened in the UK yet
kerryh Posted 5 September 2004 Posted 5 September 2004 Oooh so pedantic HullFox, I was putting them all under the armed forces umbrella, which in my opionion is pants in russia.
Hullfox Posted 5 September 2004 Posted 5 September 2004 Oooh so pedantic HullFox, I was putting them all under the armed forces umbrella, which in my opionion is pants in russia. 17088[/snapback] Sorry, couldn't resist
Guest Daniel Posted 5 September 2004 Posted 5 September 2004 Isnt it spelt, Sick Bastards? Just wondering...
Benji Posted 5 September 2004 Posted 5 September 2004 It is so sad what happened - but the Russian Army notoriously cock everything up. Remember the submarine thing a couple of years ago, they all died too. 17085[/snapback] Might that not have been the navy? Seems to me that when a group of terrorists who have no demands but are sworn to kill and be killed take over 1000 hostages including children, lock them in one room with explosives placed at high points all around, there is not going to be a good outcome. This is not like some Hollywood movie, nobody can control that. Thankfully this sort of thing has not happened in the UK yet 17087[/snapback] exactly, yea they do have a history of cocking these event up but with a situation like that where the place is fully set with bombs and have people in their WILLING to die themselves surely its 750 people saved rather than 250 dead?
Guest Posted 5 September 2004 Posted 5 September 2004 To be fair, they only stormed the building after hearing an explosion from inside the school itself. They weren't to know the kidnappers hadn't detonated it. I agree with Benji; when faced with fanatical extremists, who are prepared to martyr themselves for their beliefs, the you will not be able to reason with them. There were bound to be casualties in this incident. As for a minutes silence at football games, no way! I feel for the families of the those involved, whether they've lost relatives, friends, or are lucky to be alive, but politics should not be brought into sport!
Huggies Posted 5 September 2004 Posted 5 September 2004 To be fair, they only stormed the building after hearing an explosion from inside the school itself. They weren't to know the kidnappers hadn't detonated it.I agree with Benji; when faced with fanatical extremists, who are prepared to martyr themselves for their beliefs, the you will not be able to reason with them. There were bound to be casualties in this incident. As for a minutes silence at football games, no way! I feel for the families of the those involved, whether they've lost relatives, friends, or are lucky to be alive, but politics should not be brought into sport! 17201[/snapback] I agree, politics shouldnt be brought into sport, but it is out of respect, and even if it means nothing to the players or fans im sure it means something to the families and everyone involved. I dont really think the russian forces are to blame. If someone has nothing to live for, and is happy to blow himself up along with thousands of others, what can you do?
Guest Posted 6 September 2004 Posted 6 September 2004 Do you really think the families of thiose involved are bothered what people a few thousand miles away are thinking? Is it really a great comfort to them knowing citizens from a place they've never heard of have held a minutes silence for their benefit?
Huggies Posted 6 September 2004 Posted 6 September 2004 I dunno, if teams like arsenal and manure hold their matches up for just a minute, is that really too much to ask? And it isnt really politics anyway, its just showing that you appreciate what the families are going through and what happened to them.
Guest Posted 6 September 2004 Posted 6 September 2004 I know what you mean, but I'm a heartless, old cow! It wouldn't make the blindest bit of difference to me if I was in their shoes. I think these families should be left alone to grieve in peace.
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