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Posted

100% Scottish and proud,also proud to have been brought up in Leicester :)

Do you speak with a Leicester accent then?

Or can you do a mix of the two accents? :)

Posted

They may also do that when they are British but from other origin...

e.g. Asians who moved here from Kenya...

How can a kenyan be british, let alone English?

Why wont you ever be british or English?

rossporter, isnt the only way to spell English, with a capital E?

I know a black guy he speaks proper Leicester.

Posted

How can a kenyan be british, let alone English?

Well if he has a British passport (and never had a Kenyan one)... technically...

Why wont you ever be british or English?

I don't feel either British or English.

Hence it would be wrong for me to apply for a British passport.

Which means that I am keeping my current nationality.

I know a black guy he speaks proper Leicester.

That's certainly possible. Was he raised in Leicester?

Or did he move to Leicester before his teenage years?

I find that's often the determinant factor in the accents department...

Posted

Well if he has a British passport (and never had a Kenyan one)... technically...

I don't feel either British or English.

Hence it would be wrong for me to apply for a British passport.

Which means that I am keeping my current nationality.

That's certainly possible. Was he raised in Leicester?

Surely you can only be Scottish if your born in Scotland?

Where were you born?

Yes he was, but im not sure by who. I remember vaguely years and years ago hearing a similar accent to him, but i honestly dont know anyone who has a more "Leicester" accent than him, its refreshing to hear it. I doubt many here could explain or have heard a deep Leicester accent in the last ten years?

Posted

Surely you can only be Scottish if your born in Scotland?

Hmm not sure that's the case... You may be born in another country, but after a certain number of years you start to feel a sense of belonging to the country you live in (usually). If you then also acquire a Scottish passport... aren't you Scottish then?

Where were you born?

Italy

Yes he was, but im not sure by who. I remember vaguely years and years ago hearing a similar accent to him, but i honestly dont know anyone who has a more "Leicester" accent than him, its refreshing to hear it. I doubt many here could explain or have heard a deep Leicester accent in the last ten years?

Do you mean like the guys working at the open-air market? ... "Luv" etc? :P

Posted

Hmm not sure that's the case... You may be born in another country, but after a certain number of years you start to feel a sense of belonging to the country you live in (usually). If you then also acquire a Scottish passport... aren't you Scottish then?

Italy

Do you mean like the guys working at the open-air market? ... "Luv" etc? :P

No mate :) you have to be born there to be Scottish.

Your Italian then, how did you not know that :unsure:

No, those on the market dont have nearly the same leicester accent my friend does.

Posted

No mate :) you have to be born there to be Scottish.

Ah, you see, that is the point we are not quite agreeing on.

So you reckon nationality is given by where you are born?

What about a Scottish couple visiting Italy have a baby there?

Is that baby Italian? [Clue: n...]!

Different countries have different systems for determining nationality: in particular

- jus sanguis (by blood)

- jus locus (by place of birth)

Italy and France follow the former, whereas I believe in the UK you follow the latter.

Your Italian then, how did you not know that :unsure:

I knew that :)

Technically, yes, I am. In practice, I feel a bit like a foreigner when I go there.

And I certainly feel like a foreigner here.

Perhaps that makes me culturally isolated... :(

No, those on the market dont have nearly the same leicester accent my friend does.

Oh ok. I wonder what exactly you mean then... maybe one day you will find an example :)

Posted

oh right it's just i recall you saying you lived in a house and went to nottingham uni and most of us living in houses live in lenton THATS RIGHT I GO TO NOTTINGHAM UNI TOO

Posted

oh right it's just i recall you saying you lived in a house and went to nottingham uni and most of us living in houses live in lenton THATS RIGHT I GO TO NOTTINGHAM UNI TOO

Inspector Clouseau strikes. lollollol:D;):thumbup:

Posted

Ah, you see, that is the point we are not quite agreeing on.

So you reckon nationality is given by where you are born?

What about a Scottish couple visiting Italy have a baby there?

Is that baby Italian? [Clue: n...]!

I knew that :)

Technically, yes, I am. In practice, I feel a bit like a foreigner when I go there.

And I certainly feel like a foreigner here.

Perhaps that makes me culturally isolated... :(

Oh ok. I wonder what exactly you mean then... maybe one day you will find an example :)

It can only be decided by where your born. That baby is then Italian.

Culture and national identity can be 2 different things if you want. If you feel like a foreigner, then embrace your nation identity with open arms? maybe if you delve into who you are, you`ll find happiness, and not feel isolated.

Well if you heard him, you`d have an example :)

Posted

oh right it's just i recall you saying you lived in a house and went to nottingham uni and most of us living in houses live in lenton THATS RIGHT I GO TO NOTTINGHAM UNI TOO

Oh the house was not in Nottingham...

I am suspending my studies this week :P

Posted

It can only be decided by where your born. That baby is then Italian.

Sorry but that's exactly the point I was trying to explain above...

No, the baby won't be Italian, as Italy apply jus sanguis.

Italian law says (at least did say when I last studied this stuff) that you have to have an Italian parent to be considered for Italian citizenship (except cases such as naturalisation etc).

So that baby will be Scottish after all! (I thought you'd be pleased :))

(If we are talking citizenship, passport...)

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