Demari Gray

[ClaphamFox]

Just now, baldeagle said:

We don't,  but I find it highly unlikely that  a young lad who has only played a handful of games all season (don't think he's ever played a fulll 90. Minutes ) Would be told by medical staff to have a long time off unless he is injured. Let's face it his body won't be as fatigued as a player ehoecbeen playing 90 minutes for a full season .  

But Chilwell was given exactly the same amount of time off, having also played for England under-21s, which implies to me that it was planned by the club. I think some people are unfairly denigrating Gray here on the basis of zero evidence.

[WigstonWanderer]

1 minute ago, baldeagle said:

We don't,  but I find it highly unlikely that  a young lad who has only played a handful of games all season (don't think he's ever played a fulll 90. Minutes ) Would be told by medical staff to have a long time off unless he is injured. Let's face it his body won't be as fatigued as a player that has been playing 90 minutes for a full season .  

And Wes has had a much harder schedule over the last few years and coped despite being much older. Just seems to want everything on a plate without putting in the hard yards. Should be champing at the bit to start the new season.

[baldeagle]

2 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

But Chilwell was given exactly the same amount of time off, having also played for England under-21s, which implies to me that it was planned by the club. I think some people are unfairly denigrating Gray here on the basis of zero evidence.

Yep he did but I am sure  Chilwell played the full 90 in every game.  Gray didn't . And Chilwell hasn't opened his mouth about Managers not picking English players . I have nothing against Gray I just find it odd after stating how much he wants to play and  the not playing English youth comment that he then takes a long holiday missing most of the preseason so he is further  behind . Surely you would put your money where your mouth is come back early and try a bust your balls to prove a point or to get some advantage over the other players in front of you 

[baldeagle]

13 minutes ago, WigstonWanderer said:

And Wes has had a much harder schedule over the last few years and coped despite being much older. Just seems to want everything on a plate without putting in the hard yards. Should be champing at the bit to start the new season.

My point exactly anything to gain an advantage on players in front of you in the pecking order 

[WigstonWanderer]

16 minutes ago, baldeagle said:

My point exactly anything to gain an advantage on players in front of you in the pecking order 

Haha, nice one baldeagle

[WigstonWanderer]

33 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

But Chilwell was given exactly the same amount of time off, having also played for England under-21s, which implies to me that it was planned by the club. I think some people are unfairly denigrating Gray here on the basis of zero evidence.

Chilwell is already well integrated into the first team setup and as such has perhaps a little less to prove than Demarai. He needs to go the extra mile.