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Was he ever given a fair run in any of our teams?  Think he is a leader tbh but never given time...I know I will  get laughed at and slaughtered but never seen him totally give in like most of the team did,

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3 hours ago, Glasgow fox said:

Was he ever given a fair run in any of our teams?  Think he is a leader tbh but never given time...I know I will  get laughed at and slaughtered but never seen him totally give in like most of the team did,

Have any of his performances warranted him getting a fair run?
 

Or are you basing it off Faes and Vesty being shite? Because if it’s that, Caleb Okoli would like a word

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Gave it the big I love being here at Leicester with the lads thing whilst hoping to go

back to Wolves. Get him gone along with that frazzle haired waffle muncher. 

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I found his remarks truly incredible because they betray the real reasons for what's happened this year.

 

He says the problem was that the club didn't stick with an identity, and brushes off the fact that Southampton did actually stick with an identity which bore more than a passing resemblance to ours at the time, and were promptly torn apart for it. He fails to talk about all the other sides who successfully changed up their game to avoid relegation.

 

What he's really saying is 'we didn't want Enzo to go, we wanted to carry on playing his way, and believed we were good enough to do it'. That's why we saw those scenes on the night Cooper was fired, and that's where you see the dressing room antipathy which Top responded to by firing Cooper and replacing him with Ruud. I'm not going to mount a case for Cooper's defence here, because the decision to get rid of him wasn't straightforwardly wrong - but the dressing room revolt which necessitated it was. And it was symptomatic of a set of players with a collective attitude problem which was never going to be compatible with a relegation dogfight.

 

There may be an element of truth when he says that it's useful to carve out an identity in the second tier and take it with you to the first. Don't overhaul your squad as Ipswich did. Don't sack your FLC-proficient but EPL-deficient boss, as Leeds may. Don't uproot your style of play like we did. But if that style of play was clearly going to get you mauled at the highest level, your mates shouldn't be holding 'Enzo we miss you' placards aloft, they should be ruing the day Enzo ever came to the club, because Faes and Jannik believing they're prime Beckenbauer in the PL was never going to be a recipe for success. And yet, when the mate in question is singled out for his poor attitude by the next manager, instead of heeding his call for an improvement in professional standards, again you see the real reason for our demise. And when Coady talks about differences of opinion amongst senior players, you can see it's a clash between those players who believe we could have done better if the board, two different managers, and in general everyone other than themselves had done a better job, and those players who think that more responsibility should be taken by the ones on the pitch.

 

The truth is that sides can change and adapt - even in the PL, if people get on board. These players were never going to get on board, regardless of how necessary it was (and it was pretty clear from the second half of 23-24 that we were going to need a bit of a rethink), and as such they ducked out of even engaging with a relegation battle.

 

Coady complains that six weeks isn't enough to change your style of play. Quite apart from the fact that it had been enough back in the summer of 2023, and has been enough for countless other sides to at least make some headway, there's another issue: Cooper had six weeks with them in pre-season, but by the time the players turned on him he'd also had two months of a league season. It's the norm for newly promoted sides to take time to acclimatise, and if you're 16th that far into the campaign (and higher when we first got inklings that not everyone was with the manager), then you'd hope to kick on from that if everyone was pulling in the same direction. We'd have needed to, because we didn't look very good!

 

But instead of building on the foundations that they'd set over 15, rather than 6, weeks, our senior pros screamed and bawled about how much better things were back in the Championship, and eventually got what they were asking for - a manager who was, by all accounts, very affable with them in the early months; more possession, plenty of first team gametime without putting in the effort or performances to warrant it, and finally a return to the paradise that was the FLC.

 

What Coady wants us to hear from that interview is that the club made fundamental errors and that's why we went down. What it actually tells us is that, while the club did make mistakes and those players may well have gone down regardless of whatever we tried, their own lack of professionalism made failure a certainty. We either played as they wished to play, and got destroyed, or didn't, and they'd make damn sure that we got destroyed. Not consciously, of course, but it all amounts to the same thing.

 

It's no surprise that he also dedicates a lot time to explaining the difference between laziness and a lack of confidence, and why it's easy to confuse the true. Again, there's an element of truth in what he says. But you have to wonder why he feels the need to say it. A guilty conscience, I suspect!

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Extremely limited player talking like he’s a regular = Coady.

 

Can’t wait for all the overpaid leeches to leave. It’s just the worry that they’ll be replaced by like for like.

 

More Mads, Abdul signings please.

 

I can’t think of a “proven” PL signing that has worked since Evans and before that Huth.

 

 

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