Rincewind Posted 6 August 2006 Posted 6 August 2006 I know its a bit early but on Thursday I visited thTower of London. Inside they had the exibition of the Gunpowder plot in 1605. On the wall was displayed the Nursery Rhyme 'Remember Remember....' in full I'm not religious but the later verses could be consididered offensive to Catholics. I was wondering how many Catholics celebrate bonfire night without knowing the significance of the event. Justtried to search for the words but lost this message so wont try again. In the rhyme it says something about the Pope as well which is none too complinmetary. In an Internet cafe so dont have much time for searches. If the plot had succeeded the explosion would have destroyed a great part of Londondon ccording to a reconstruction video.
stez Posted 6 August 2006 Posted 6 August 2006 I know its a bit early but on Thursday I visited thTower of London. Inside they had the exibition of the Gunpowder plot in 1605. On the wall was displayed the Nursery Rhyme 'Remember Remember....' in full I'm not religious but the later verses could be consididered offensive to Catholics. I was wondering how many Catholics celebrate bonfire night without knowing the significance of the event. Justtried to search for the words but lost this message so wont try again. In the rhyme it says something about the Pope as well which is none too complinmetary. In an Internet cafe so dont have much time for searches. If the plot had succeeded the explosion would have destroyed a great part of Londondon ccording to a reconstruction video. Remember, remember, the 5th of November The Gunpowder Treason and plot; I know of no reason why Gunpowder Treason Should ever be forgot. Guy Fawkes, Guy Fawkes, 'Twas his intent. To blow up the King and the Parliament. Three score barrels of powder below. Poor old England to overthrow. By God's providence he was catch'd, With a dark lantern and burning match Holloa boys, Holloa boys, let the bells ring Holloa boys, Holloa boys, God save the King! Hip hip Hoorah! Hip hip Hoorah! A penny loaf to feed ol'Pope, A farthing cheese to choke him. A pint of beer to rinse it down, A faggot of sticks to burn him. Burn him in a tub of tar,' Burn him like a blazing star. Burn his body from his head, Then we'll say: ol'Pope is dead. it does sound harsh these days, but the pope and the rest of catholic europe quite fancied doing the same to the non-catholic english.
macbeth Posted 6 August 2006 Posted 6 August 2006 what would we have done without "loving christianity"
stez Posted 6 August 2006 Posted 6 August 2006 what would we have done without "loving christianity" been jewish..........
crazy horse Posted 6 August 2006 Posted 6 August 2006 been jewish.......... what about the philistines and samaritans.........they could have argued the toss over religions for millennia too
Rincewind Posted 6 August 2006 Author Posted 6 August 2006 I'm back. Yes I know the Catholic Church did some bad things but my point was that there are a lot of Catholic families buy fireworks burn the guy and generally cheer when it goes up in smoke. They are actually burning an efigy of somebody of their own faith who objected to James 1st banning the Catholic church from England. They also drawn and quartered him and stuck his head on a spike. Nice people at those times. What surprised me when I saw those words that it is a nursrey rhyme. Then again. Humpty Dumpty was about one of the Richards who died falling of his horse. Have these been banned in schools yet by the PC brigade? Ring-a-Roses was about the black plague. There must be more Orange and Lemons. -here comes the chopper to chop off your head.
Daggers Posted 6 August 2006 Posted 6 August 2006 been jewish.......... Surely we would have simply carried on worshiping our pagan Gods ~ or been swayed by our delightful Norse invaders to follow their barrel load of deities?
stez Posted 6 August 2006 Posted 6 August 2006 Surely we would have simply carried on worshiping our pagan Gods ~ or been swayed by our delightful Norse invaders to follow their barrel load of deities? we could've borrowed a load of roman ones too, as they'd've not gone christian either
stez Posted 6 August 2006 Posted 6 August 2006 I'm back. Yes I know the Catholic Church did some bad things but my point was that there are a lot of Catholic families buy fireworks burn the guy and generally cheer when it goes up in smoke. They are actually burning an efigy of somebody of their own faith who objected to James 1st banning the Catholic church from England. They also drawn and quartered him and stuck his head on a spike. Nice people at those times. What surprised me when I saw those words that it is a nursrey rhyme. Then again. Humpty Dumpty was about one of the Richards who died falling of his horse. Have these been banned in schools yet by the PC brigade? Ring-a-Roses was about the black plague. There must be more Orange and Lemons. -here comes the chopper to chop off your head. i suppose bonfire night (as its now mostly known) is like christmas, in that what started them doesn't seem to matter anymore. christmas trees are as christmassy as , presents and tinsel i heard the other day
Daggers Posted 6 August 2006 Posted 6 August 2006 we could've borrowed a load of roman ones too, as they'd've not gone christian either Oh yes, sweeeeet. They had some cracking Gods, Bacchus being my favourite...
stez Posted 6 August 2006 Posted 6 August 2006 Oh yes, sweeeeet. They had some cracking Gods, Bacchus being my favourite... sod that! Aesculapius, the Roman God of medicine. was the best goodness it's easy to see how religious conflicts start!
Rincewind Posted 6 August 2006 Author Posted 6 August 2006 Anyway it was interesting. The Beefeater Guide asked the crowd if they wanted the gruesome facts or the luvvy dovey facts. didn't hear anyone shout for the second. I also did a tour of HMS Belfast but that's another story.
Daggers Posted 6 August 2006 Posted 6 August 2006 sod that! Aesculapius, the Roman God of medicine. was the best goodness it's easy to see how religious conflicts start! My God can kicks your Gods arse
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