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the case for 3-5-2

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Posted

Too difficult to be certain without knowing them personally.

rob kelly does and he chose PMc. maybe RK also knows, knowing the youth bods personally, they're not ready for the step up?

Posted

rob kelly does and he chose PMc. maybe RK also knows, knowing the youth bods personally, they're not ready for the step up?

Sorry but the "manager knows best" argument never especially impresses me.

He might of course.

But football is littered with all-knowing managers who fot their teams relegated time and again or who didn't do their jobs particularly well at all - and not just once.

I don't put RK in this category for one minute but nothing about what he's done so far puts him above criticism or even remotely suggests he might not be wrong about some things.

Posted

Sorry but the "manager knows best" argument never especially impresses me.

He might of course.

But football is littered with all-knowing managers who fot their teams relegated time and again or who didn't do their jobs particularly well at all - and not just once.

I don't put RK in this category for one minute but nothing about what he's done so far puts him above criticism or even remotely suggests he might not be wrong about some things.

but you think you'd know best?

Posted

I think the best idea would be 4-3-3

More attacking options and would get rid of our terrible midfield to a certain extent.

======== Logan ========

Stearman = McAuley= McCarthy= Tiatto

Low ===== Hughes =========Porter

Hammond=== Fryatt========= Hume

I think this would work better.

That team is minging !! basically you have 4 wingers and 1 central midfielder. To play a decent 4-3-3, the 3 midfielders have to be central, such as Chelsea (makelele, lampard, essien) and barcelona (xavi, deco, edmilson), and these 2 teams play the 4-3-3 system most effectively.

Hughes on his own in central midfield, what are you thinking ??!!

Posted

---------------------LOGAN---------------------

------McAULEY KISNORBO McCARTHY----

KENTON--------------------------------TIATTO

-------------------WILLIAMS-------------------

----------WESO---------------PORTER--------

-----------------HUME----FRYATT-------------

Bench: HENDO, STEARMAN, SYLLA, HUGHES, HAMMOND

Never, ever going to happen, but I'd love to see it.

Posted

Too difficult to be certain without knowing them personally.

rob kelly does and he chose PMc. maybe RK also knows, knowing the youth bods personally, they're not ready for the step up?

Sorry but the "manager knows best" argument never especially impresses me.

He might of course.

But football is littered with all-knowing managers who fot their teams relegated time and again or who didn't do their jobs particularly well at all - and not just once.

I don't put RK in this category for one minute but nothing about what he's done so far puts him above criticism or even remotely suggests he might not be wrong about some things.

but you think you'd know best?

Why would anyone write an opinion down that they didn't believe in?

i didn't ask that, as our exchanges show ^

Posted

fascinating topic with much to agree with on all sides.

on paper it looks like we should be able to play 3-5-2 unfortunately when you anylise the players imo they are not really up to playing this way.

1 mon played 3-5-2 using a quick forward ball down the channels to Heskey. he could do this because he was both powerful and quick. that is not an otpin we have with our current strikers. none of whom are both of the above.

2 as said by many here our central defenders simply cannot distribute the ball with any degree of accuracy

3 midfield is our weakest area. not sure we have the requisite wide players who are good enough to play gboth a defensive and an attacking role. eg tiatto not bad defensively but poor going forward, porter ok going forward doesn't look great defensively, low doesn't look great at either, sylla the same.

4 goalkeepers. need a confident keeper who coomands his area if you are going to play 3-5-2 and one who can distribute the ball. not sure we have this.

afraid I can't see us changing from 4-4-2.

Posted

fascinating topic with much to agree with on all sides.

on paper it looks like we should be able to play 3-5-2 unfortunately when you anylise the players imo they are not really up to playing this way.

1 mon played 3-5-2 using a quick forward ball down the channels to Heskey. he could do this because he was both powerful and quick. that is not an otpin we have with our current strikers. none of whom are both of the above.

We play this now anyway, hoofing the ball down the flanks for Fryatt and Hume to chase. The point of 3-5-2 is to play it through the middle. You don't have to play 3-5-2 exactly like MON did for it to work.

2 as said by many here our central defenders simply cannot distribute the ball with any degree of accuracy

Got an extra central midfield option to find. Can't distribute it using 4-4-2 either.

3 midfield is our weakest area. not sure we have the requisite wide players who are good enough to play gboth a defensive and an attacking role. eg tiatto not bad defensively but poor going forward, porter ok going forward doesn't look great defensively, low doesn't look great at either, sylla the same.

Agree we are stuck here but Tiatto you say is poor going forward, well he's been playing left-midfield so he'd be taking up a more defensive position than he's been used to. Also, Johansson going forward from left-back and Hughes playing right-wing patently don't work.

4 goalkeepers. need a confident keeper who coomands his area if you are going to play 3-5-2 and one who can distribute the ball. not sure we have this.

Why any more than a 4-4-2 where you have two centre-backs covering the penalty area instead of three?

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