Hullfox Posted 21 January 2005 Posted 21 January 2005 The tactical genius which saw him play Scowcroft right/left wing, Nalis and Williams in the centre of a 4 man midfield (No ball winner) and the marvellous decision to play Heath at right back for one game. Micky, you are truely a tactical god. Saying that, I wish him well. As Hoof said, some manager's do learn from their mistakes, but Micky's stubborness may prevent that from happening. 57056[/snapback] On the same basis then Scowy, what do you reckon to CL? Against Blackpool, Scowcroft played on the left and right of midfield as well as up front. He also played Stearman at Right Back recently for one game. He also played Dublin who he claims to have been our best defender, up front on Tuesday on a pitch that was really wasn't suited to big lumbering dollops trying to run. Isn't that the same type of tactical genius? 57109[/snapback] I'm not encouraged by it. I don't like it when manager's attempt to force a formation on players - You should play a formation which compliments the players at your disposal. Stearman has the ability to play anywhere along the backline, he's perhaps too weak to play in the centre just yet. We all know that Levein is still getting to know his players, while Adams had a few seasons with the likes of Scowcroft and Heath... 57118[/snapback] On this occasion then I shall let you off. Remember though - Hullfox the Mysterious is watching
Guest Posted 21 January 2005 Posted 21 January 2005 Remember though - Hullfox the Mysterious is watching 57122[/snapback] Does this apply to us all? I'm having enough nightmares as it is!
shen Posted 21 January 2005 Posted 21 January 2005 The tactical genius which saw him play Scowcroft right/left wing, Nalis and Williams in the centre of a 4 man midfield (No ball winner) and the marvellous decision to play Heath at right back for one game. Micky, you are truely a tactical god. Saying that, I wish him well. As Hoof said, some manager's do learn from their mistakes, but Micky's stubborness may prevent that from happening. 57056[/snapback] On the same basis then Scowy, what do you reckon to CL? Against Blackpool, Scowcroft played on the left and right of midfield as well as up front. He also played Stearman at Right Back recently for one game. He also played Dublin who he claims to have been our best defender, up front on Tuesday on a pitch that was really wasn't suited to big lumbering dollops trying to run. Isn't that the same type of tactical genius? 57109[/snapback] I'm not encouraged by it. I don't like it when manager's attempt to force a formation on players - You should play a formation which compliments the players at your disposal. Stearman has the ability to play anywhere along the backline, he's perhaps too weak to play in the centre just yet. We all know that Levein is still getting to know his players, while Adams had a few seasons with the likes of Scowcroft and Heath... 57118[/snapback] On this occasion then I shall let you off. Remember though - Hullfox the Mysterious is watching 57122[/snapback] I would think that CL did a bit of research and looked at how we got promoted the last time around and wanted to have a look at it himself. He obviously doesn't prioritise the FA Cup as much as the league then, since he's willing to take the risks he did. But what he can confirm for himself was that Scowy didn't work well (anywhere!) and that Dublin had his last game up front Stearman had a very good game at right-back so I dont see the problem there
Scarby Posted 21 January 2005 Posted 21 January 2005 Dont know if this has alredy been brought up but didnt MA say leaving us that he wanted more time away fom family and with his family and he will take a long break of? A few month isnt what i expected so it seems he ws just making excuses as usual
Hullfox Posted 21 January 2005 Posted 21 January 2005 Thing is, it seems it's research when CL does it, but bloody stupid when Mickey did it. And Lisa, I'm thinking about coming clean and renaming myself Omnipresent Hullfox
step Posted 21 January 2005 Posted 21 January 2005 Time and time and time and time again MA brought on three substitutes and screwed up a winning team. When a sub is brought on there ia always some disruption to the team dynamics. So it takes time for the sub to settle down and the rest of the squad to get use to the change. To bring on three subs at once is absolutly crazy, it causes major problems to the players. How can anyone expect a team to adapt to three new players quickly. It is not tactical ability, or years of experiance, or some training cert teaches us that. It is simple commen sense. To make that mistake over and over again, is plain effing stupid MA did not learn by his mistakes.
BartonFox Posted 21 January 2005 Posted 21 January 2005 cellseven, may I suggest you try and study the game a little bit more as over the last few days you have demonstrated a rather obscure philosophy on the game. Are you Micky Adams by any chance??? He has clearly taken 3 months off and not learnt a thing. By appointing Alan Cork in his backroom team he has shown very little imagination or acknowledgement that he did little to improve any player at City. Also his retention of Adrian Heath is laughable, a failure at Burnley, a failure as Peter Reid's sidekick should be enough to demonstrate he isn't up to the job. Micky may have been on these UEFA coaching courses but he clearly hasn't taken anything from them otherwise he would have appointed the new breed of coach to work with him. Instead he has retained the old-skool secuirty blanket of the mid 80's player trying to live off a past repuatation. Probably survive this season but will struggle next.
Hullfox Posted 21 January 2005 Posted 21 January 2005 cellseven, may I suggest you try and study the game a little bit more as over the last few days you have demonstrated a rather obscure philosophy on the game.Are you Micky Adams by any chance??? He has clearly taken 3 months off and not learnt a thing. By appointing Alan Cork in his backroom team he has shown very little imagination or acknowledgement that he did little to improve any player at City. Also his retention of Adrian Heath is laughable, a failure at Burnley, a failure as Peter Reid's sidekick should be enough to demonstrate he isn't up to the job. Micky may have been on these UEFA coaching courses but he clearly hasn't taken anything from them otherwise he would have appointed the new breed of coach to work with him. Instead he has retained the old-skool secuirty blanket of the mid 80's player trying to live off a past repuatation. Probably survive this season but will struggle next. 57338[/snapback] Is there not a slight chance that Cov insisted that Heath stay?
Hullfox Posted 21 January 2005 Posted 21 January 2005 cellseven, may I suggest you try and study the game a little bit more as over the last few days you have demonstrated a rather obscure philosophy on the game.Are you Micky Adams by any chance??? He has clearly taken 3 months off and not learnt a thing. By appointing Alan Cork in his backroom team he has shown very little imagination or acknowledgement that he did little to improve any player at City. Also his retention of Adrian Heath is laughable, a failure at Burnley, a failure as Peter Reid's sidekick should be enough to demonstrate he isn't up to the job. Micky may have been on these UEFA coaching courses but he clearly hasn't taken anything from them otherwise he would have appointed the new breed of coach to work with him. Instead he has retained the old-skool secuirty blanket of the mid 80's player trying to live off a past repuatation. Probably survive this season but will struggle next. 57338[/snapback] Is there not a slight chance that Cov insisted that Heath stay? 57387[/snapback] Is there not a slight chance that Messrs Heath, Stewart, Stearman and Dawson developed under Mickey's reign? Although the latter two did not appear in the first team under him they improved enough to get people talking about them.
Hullfox Posted 21 January 2005 Posted 21 January 2005 cellseven, may I suggest you try and study the game a little bit more as over the last few days you have demonstrated a rather obscure philosophy on the game.Are you Micky Adams by any chance??? He has clearly taken 3 months off and not learnt a thing. By appointing Alan Cork in his backroom team he has shown very little imagination or acknowledgement that he did little to improve any player at City. Also his retention of Adrian Heath is laughable, a failure at Burnley, a failure as Peter Reid's sidekick should be enough to demonstrate he isn't up to the job. Micky may have been on these UEFA coaching courses but he clearly hasn't taken anything from them otherwise he would have appointed the new breed of coach to work with him. Instead he has retained the old-skool secuirty blanket of the mid 80's player trying to live off a past repuatation. Probably survive this season but will struggle next. 57338[/snapback] Is there not a slight chance that Cov insisted that Heath stay? 57387[/snapback] Is there not a slight chance that Messrs Heath, Stewart, Stearman and Dawson developed under Mickey's reign? Although the latter two did not appear in the first team under him they improved enough to get people talking about them. 57390[/snapback] Is there not a slight chance that it's Mickey Adams who has the Uefa coaching badge and none of us?
davieG Posted 21 January 2005 Posted 21 January 2005 cellseven, may I suggest you try and study the game a little bit more as over the last few days you have demonstrated a rather obscure philosophy on the game.Are you Micky Adams by any chance??? He has clearly taken 3 months off and not learnt a thing. By appointing Alan Cork in his backroom team he has shown very little imagination or acknowledgement that he did little to improve any player at City. Also his retention of Adrian Heath is laughable, a failure at Burnley, a failure as Peter Reid's sidekick should be enough to demonstrate he isn't up to the job. Micky may have been on these UEFA coaching courses but he clearly hasn't taken anything from them otherwise he would have appointed the new breed of coach to work with him. Instead he has retained the old-skool secuirty blanket of the mid 80's player trying to live off a past repuatation. Probably survive this season but will struggle next. 57338[/snapback] Is there not a slight chance that Cov insisted that Heath stay? 57387[/snapback] Is there not a slight chance that Messrs Heath, Stewart, Stearman and Dawson developed under Mickey's reign? Although the latter two did not appear in the first team under him they improved enough to get people talking about them. 57390[/snapback] Is there not a slight chance that it's Mickey Adams who has the Uefa coaching badge and none of us? 57393[/snapback] Congratulations davieg says you have just proved that you are Micky Adams (almost) good job you remembered to put 'and none of us' on the end
Hullfox Posted 21 January 2005 Posted 21 January 2005 cellseven, may I suggest you try and study the game a little bit more as over the last few days you have demonstrated a rather obscure philosophy on the game.Are you Micky Adams by any chance??? He has clearly taken 3 months off and not learnt a thing. By appointing Alan Cork in his backroom team he has shown very little imagination or acknowledgement that he did little to improve any player at City. Also his retention of Adrian Heath is laughable, a failure at Burnley, a failure as Peter Reid's sidekick should be enough to demonstrate he isn't up to the job. Micky may have been on these UEFA coaching courses but he clearly hasn't taken anything from them otherwise he would have appointed the new breed of coach to work with him. Instead he has retained the old-skool secuirty blanket of the mid 80's player trying to live off a past repuatation. Probably survive this season but will struggle next. 57338[/snapback] Is there not a slight chance that Cov insisted that Heath stay? 57387[/snapback] Is there not a slight chance that Messrs Heath, Stewart, Stearman and Dawson developed under Mickey's reign? Although the latter two did not appear in the first team under him they improved enough to get people talking about them. 57390[/snapback] Is there not a slight chance that it's Mickey Adams who has the Uefa coaching badge and none of us? 57393[/snapback] Congratulations davieg says you have just proved that you are Micky Adams (almost) good job you remembered to put 'and none of us' on the end 57408[/snapback] Bugger, caught out
Durnerz Posted 22 January 2005 Posted 22 January 2005 cellseven, may I suggest you try and study the game a little bit more as over the last few days you have demonstrated a rather obscure philosophy on the game.Are you Micky Adams by any chance??? He has clearly taken 3 months off and not learnt a thing. By appointing Alan Cork in his backroom team he has shown very little imagination or acknowledgement that he did little to improve any player at City. Also his retention of Adrian Heath is laughable, a failure at Burnley, a failure as Peter Reid's sidekick should be enough to demonstrate he isn't up to the job. Micky may have been on these UEFA coaching courses but he clearly hasn't taken anything from them otherwise he would have appointed the new breed of coach to work with him. Instead he has retained the old-skool secuirty blanket of the mid 80's player trying to live off a past repuatation. Probably survive this season but will struggle next. 57338[/snapback] Is there not a slight chance that Cov insisted that Heath stay? 57387[/snapback] Is there not a slight chance that Messrs Heath, Stewart, Stearman and Dawson developed under Mickey's reign? Although the latter two did not appear in the first team under him they improved enough to get people talking about them. 57390[/snapback] Is there not a slight chance that it's Mickey Adams who has the Uefa coaching badge and none of us? 57393[/snapback] Congratulations davieg says you have just proved that you are Micky Adams (almost) good job you remembered to put 'and none of us' on the end 57408[/snapback] Bugger, caught out 57413[/snapback] Adams may have given stewart and heath their chances, but they were pants under him for his 2nd season, keeping adams would have ruined those two players, look at gillespie, woeful under adams amazing under levein, adams never had enough discipline hence all the red and yellow cards and leads lost time and again due in part to his subs. Also he revolved around the phrase "keep the faith" in which he'd have one style of play and if that didnt work he had no plan B, Leveins more intelligent, 4-4-2 wasnt working one time, try 3-5-2 which he did, this is what i like about levein,if things arnt working he will chop and change.
Hullfox Posted 22 January 2005 Posted 22 January 2005 cellseven, may I suggest you try and study the game a little bit more as over the last few days you have demonstrated a rather obscure philosophy on the game.Are you Micky Adams by any chance??? He has clearly taken 3 months off and not learnt a thing. By appointing Alan Cork in his backroom team he has shown very little imagination or acknowledgement that he did little to improve any player at City. Also his retention of Adrian Heath is laughable, a failure at Burnley, a failure as Peter Reid's sidekick should be enough to demonstrate he isn't up to the job. Micky may have been on these UEFA coaching courses but he clearly hasn't taken anything from them otherwise he would have appointed the new breed of coach to work with him. Instead he has retained the old-skool secuirty blanket of the mid 80's player trying to live off a past repuatation. Probably survive this season but will struggle next. 57338[/snapback] Is there not a slight chance that Cov insisted that Heath stay? 57387[/snapback] Is there not a slight chance that Messrs Heath, Stewart, Stearman and Dawson developed under Mickey's reign? Although the latter two did not appear in the first team under him they improved enough to get people talking about them. 57390[/snapback] Is there not a slight chance that it's Mickey Adams who has the Uefa coaching badge and none of us? 57393[/snapback] Congratulations davieg says you have just proved that you are Micky Adams (almost) good job you remembered to put 'and none of us' on the end 57408[/snapback] Bugger, caught out 57413[/snapback] Adams may have given stewart and heath their chances, but they were pants under him for his 2nd season, keeping adams would have ruined those two players, look at gillespie, woeful under adams amazing under levein, adams never had enough discipline hence all the red and yellow cards and leads lost time and again due in part to his subs. Also he revolved around the phrase "keep the faith" in which he'd have one style of play and if that didnt work he had no plan B, Leveins more intelligent, 4-4-2 wasnt working one time, try 3-5-2 which he did, this is what i like about levein,if things arnt working he will chop and change. 57548[/snapback] I have no problem with CL and hope that he does prove to be a better manager than Mickey because that means the club will be doing well. You can only hypothesise that Stewart and Heath would have been ruined under Adams. Though it noticeable that Heath has barely featured under Levein. As for formation, Levein has quite clearly stated that he prefers 4-4-2 and only used a 3-5-2 because of player limitations. (Squad and injury) There is a thin line between success and failure and if things go wrong, how long until CL's chopping and changing is seen in the same light as Mickey's meddling?
Durnerz Posted 22 January 2005 Posted 22 January 2005 cellseven, may I suggest you try and study the game a little bit more as over the last few days you have demonstrated a rather obscure philosophy on the game.Are you Micky Adams by any chance??? He has clearly taken 3 months off and not learnt a thing. By appointing Alan Cork in his backroom team he has shown very little imagination or acknowledgement that he did little to improve any player at City. Also his retention of Adrian Heath is laughable, a failure at Burnley, a failure as Peter Reid's sidekick should be enough to demonstrate he isn't up to the job. Micky may have been on these UEFA coaching courses but he clearly hasn't taken anything from them otherwise he would have appointed the new breed of coach to work with him. Instead he has retained the old-skool secuirty blanket of the mid 80's player trying to live off a past repuatation. Probably survive this season but will struggle next. 57338[/snapback] Is there not a slight chance that Cov insisted that Heath stay? 57387[/snapback] Is there not a slight chance that Messrs Heath, Stewart, Stearman and Dawson developed under Mickey's reign? Although the latter two did not appear in the first team under him they improved enough to get people talking about them. 57390[/snapback] Is there not a slight chance that it's Mickey Adams who has the Uefa coaching badge and none of us? 57393[/snapback] Congratulations davieg says you have just proved that you are Micky Adams (almost) good job you remembered to put 'and none of us' on the end 57408[/snapback] Bugger, caught out 57413[/snapback] Adams may have given stewart and heath their chances, but they were pants under him for his 2nd season, keeping adams would have ruined those two players, look at gillespie, woeful under adams amazing under levein, adams never had enough discipline hence all the red and yellow cards and leads lost time and again due in part to his subs. Also he revolved around the phrase "keep the faith" in which he'd have one style of play and if that didnt work he had no plan B, Leveins more intelligent, 4-4-2 wasnt working one time, try 3-5-2 which he did, this is what i like about levein,if things arnt working he will chop and change. 57548[/snapback] I have no problem with CL and hope that he does prove to be a better manager than Mickey because that means the club will be doing well. You can only hypothesise that Stewart and Heath would have been ruined under Adams. Though it noticeable that Heath has barely featured under Levein. As for formation, Levein has quite clearly stated that he prefers 4-4-2 and only used a 3-5-2 because of player limitations. (Squad and injury) There is a thin line between success and failure and if things go wrong, how long until CL's chopping and changing is seen in the same light as Mickey's meddling? 57550[/snapback] However against plymouth we changed the formation at half time and won, tactical genius.
Scow Posted 22 January 2005 Posted 22 January 2005 There is a thin line between success and failure and if things go wrong, how long until CL's chopping and changing is seen in the same light as Mickey's meddling? 57550[/snapback] I bet you some fans are thinking that right now... Realistically we know that Levein doesn't plan on keeping the majority of this squad for next season. It's basically ensuring we can get through to the end of the season without harm, then taking it from there. That sounds a bit negative, but the reality is that we have some extremely average/past it players within the team that are not capable of sustaining a promotion challenge. It's interesting to think that if we win our game in hand, we would only be 6 points off the play offs. As much as I would like to be the optimist, that is something we won't achieve this season. We don't do enough in the attacking third of the pitch. We have two strikers who like to drop deep, and the central midfield just isn't strong enough when we play a combination of Nalis/Gemmill/Gudjonsson - Although Gudjonsson/Williams could prove to be a decent partnership if the former is asked to do the simple things, as opposed to playing over ambitious passes, which can put us in to trouble.
davieG Posted 22 January 2005 Posted 22 January 2005 as opposed to playing over ambitious passes, which can put us in to trouble. Or over ambitious shots on goal trying to score
Scow Posted 22 January 2005 Posted 22 January 2005 as opposed to playing over ambitious passes, which can put us in to trouble. Or over ambitious shots on goal trying to score 57557[/snapback] Yes, luckily it was wind assisted on Tuesday night up in Blackpool.
Hullfox Posted 22 January 2005 Posted 22 January 2005 There is a thin line between success and failure and if things go wrong, how long until CL's chopping and changing is seen in the same light as Mickey's meddling? 57550[/snapback] I bet you some fans are thinking that right now... Realistically we know that Levein doesn't plan on keeping the majority of this squad for next season. It's basically ensuring we can get through to the end of the season without harm, then taking it from there. That sounds a bit negative, but the reality is that we have some extremely average/past it players within the team that are not capable of sustaining a promotion challenge. It's interesting to think that if we win our game in hand, we would only be 6 points off the play offs. As much as I would like to be the optimist, that is something we won't achieve this season. We don't do enough in the attacking third of the pitch. We have two strikers who like to drop deep, and the central midfield just isn't strong enough when we play a combination of Nalis/Gemmill/Gudjonsson - Although Gudjonsson/Williams could prove to be a decent partnership if the former is asked to do the simple things, as opposed to playing over ambitious passes, which can put us in to trouble. 57555[/snapback] Glad to see your posting is now back on track young Scowy.
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