Bad Dogs

[MPH]

Can we muzzle and chain all the people who are a threat while we're at it?

And Galloway for a few months too, just as an experiment, so he appreciates what he's proposing.

castrate him too whilst you are at it.

[Zingari]

castrate him too whilst you are at it.

george ballaway

[MPH]

george ballaway

the memory of him pretending to eat that food out of that womans hand will live in my mind for ever... it was just... so.... wrong...

[Brainy]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1532509206579317476

[MPH]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1532509206579317476

someone help me!!!!

[Pen 3 veteran]

exactly it's the scrotes that own them and think it's funny and clever to treat them like crap, wind them up and so on.

Imo a law change is needed in terms of the RSPCA they are very very limited in the immediate action they can take when deal with scum bag owners who mistreat their pets

Totally agree - my family never owned dogs and seeing one in public never bothered me ever ( think it's true that dogs sense your basic fear or confidence).

Last few years my wife got a little cute dog when I was away for few days, and although he's a snappy little git, he's only being possessive /protective of her. Last year we moved house to an isolated spot. I worked nights and she was worried about security. We'd already had some thieving bastards take things from the garden, and dumping rubbish. Police took 2 weeks to respond. So, with lot of thought and research, we decided on a getting on a female puppy Rotty (I had serious doubts as I was part of the misinformed public about the breed, and getting the thug stigma.) She's now 7 months, very placid and loyal to the family. She's insured, all the jabs and spayed and lots of dog training lessons.

I agree with more power to RSPCA plus vetting of proposed owners for

ALL medium and big breed dogs, compulsory insurance with discounts for dog training and handling competence, compulsory and more expensive license fees ( that would stop tossers owning Staffies/ Rotties / Mastiffs etc as "status" symbols").

As has been said, it's the owners not the dogs, to blame. Dogs only live/react to what they're picked up or been taught.

That's what I reckon. and COME ON YOU BLUE BOYS!

[Rincewind]

If owners did have to pay more for a lisence and take training it would take away the 'pupy for xmas' attitude in some. People see the pups at places like RSPCA and think 'how cute' regardless of the breed and without knowing the puppy's needs as it grows older.

They say poodles are little snappers. Why is it the little dogs think they can take on the big ones? Terriers (street accidents) are worse for that, very difficult to control at times. But they are faithful and soft.

The chap I know who breeds dogs upset his missus once. As all the dogs were in the backyard she had a dog that was allowed in the house. A bulldog. One day she came home from work to find he had sold it. Someone had come to look at the dogs for sale and took a liking to hers. She was not happy.

[SouthLondonFox]

I know someone that breeds these types of dogs. Not seen him for a long while but somebody gave me his number and this thread reminds me that I was going to ring him. Anyway he always used to get angry when people moaned about dangerous dogs. If you have a child you dont get a pitbull. They are not meant to be domestic dogs. They are hunters. I cant argue the case cos I dont have all the facts but this mate does not let the dogs in the house. They are all in kennels/cages in his backyard. He goes out at intervals to chuck em meat and clean them out but apart from that he has no physical or emotional contact with them. The only dogs that have been in my family have been daft and stupid but there was once when my nephew was a toddler he pulled our present dogs tail who turned around and snapped. Luckily my mum was there keeping an eye on both dog and baby and the dog received tapp on the nose. And my nephew recieved a 'No, naughty' command.

The APBT is not a hunter - fact! They were not bred for hunting (although they are occasionally used for hog hunting alongside dogs like the Dogo or American Bulldog), they were bred for fighting as was the Stafford, Tosa, Sharpei and a whole host of other breeds. They are not particularly aggressive to children or people, but do have a lot of animal (dog particularly) aggression and a fair prey drive. I have owned pits (when legal) and was happy to have them in the home - I felt more comfortable around other people's pits than a whole host of other breeds. The reason - for years, when worked in the box, man-biters were culled because they were no use - i.e. dogs needed to be separated when fighting, without biting the handler. Yes, I know it's gruesome, but it is part of the history of selective breeding that has led to a human friendly and very stable dog. Back in the day, breeders used to keep German Shepherds to guard their kennels of pit bulls from thieves. A pit would happily wander off with a stranger!

Of course, anyone can turn any breed of dog into one that is aggressive to people and bigger dogs will do more damage - hence stories about Rotties etc making the headlines, whilst a bite from a Yorkie won't hurt quite so much. So in the end, it's down to the dumb or irresponsible owners.

Anyway, no offence intended, as you say- you don't have all the facts - and your 'mate' sounds like a **** who shouldn't have dogs.

[Rincewind]

Maybe the way I described the mate has not done him any justice. He knows hell of a lot about dogs. He used to have a croft on one of the scottish islands and used dogs regular for rabbiting etc. He looks on his dogs as a buisness so cannot become too attached to them. He would agree with your description of the pitbull etc. I have just not put it across very well. He also criticised irrisponsible owners. I'm sure he could argue his case better than me.

[Rincewind]

I phone that bloke I know today. He doesn't breed dangerous dogs. He has mostly bulldogs which are ideal family dogs as far as I know. He has an alsation as a guard dog though and says he has had no problem with burglars for three years. If anyone wants a bull dog I can pass his contact details on.