Collymore Posted 18 April 2005 Posted 18 April 2005 We have also lost our ability to attack and defend set pieces. There was a time with tags and Elliott when it was never a worry if a team had 4 corners in a row or a dangerous freekick because you knew that 99 times out of a 100 it would be their heads on the end of it. Now my pants turn brown if a team gets a free kick on the half way line. The same with attacking, we must have got 30 points one season from set pieces alone, teams feared out aerial presence, not anymore. If I could draw a graph it had peaked with MON and gradually fell after the 5-3 Sunderland game with collys hatrick, what a strike force we had that day. Can CL stop the graph sinking down to new depths?
foxesfan69 Posted 18 April 2005 Posted 18 April 2005 I think that the average neutral has heard of more of our midfield players than probably any other midfield 'squad' in the Championship. Most of our midfielders were regarded (and still are in some cases) at one time as outstanding prospects. Most have plied their trades in The Prem and/or have been with bigger clubs.And look at the depth! By Championship standards it's almost awesome. What we should be doing is asking ourselves why their current FORM does not match their reputations. Why was an ageing journeyman oddfellow like Kavanagh allowed to seize the day on Saturday and treat the occasion like a home game against minor league opposition? After all, no away team takes the game to the opposition anymore - they sit on the edge of their box in rows of three watching the home side play and then deliver the sucker punch (especially if the punch bag in question is Leicester). Answers please Mr Levein: - only 23,000 fans are waiting... 94271[/snapback] As it was the same midfield put together by MA and were equally inept under him perhaps you with your contacts should also ask him as well. 94284[/snapback] Your memory does not serve you well DG. I seem to remember 10 men in 100 degree heat fighting West Ham to a stand still. I remember the midfield breaking with electrifying pace to beat a feisty Derby 2-1 AWAY. I recall the destruction of the Blades. We played QPR off the park when they were in their pomp for 50+ minutes until silly Connolly got himself sent off. In all of these encounters our midfield was outstanding. There is no doubt that it is the engine room that has deteriorated steadily under Levein and that we have been on a downward spiral since early December. In fairness to Levein he might plead 'FA Cup' in mitigation. Might be credible if we were talking about losing an automatic promotion spot or, if I was in a very generous mood, a play-off place. But definitely not when we're talking about beating the drop... 94434[/snapback] Chandler, i'm sorry but i've been disgusted with our midfield all season. It's been one of our many downfalls. Nalis was impressive until xmas but other than that they've been shocking. Williams has got better since Levein took over as previously the ball was sailing over his head, but even so he's hardly bossed it. Gudjonsson has always been bad, as has Gemmill and the others who have played. Whether that's been Adams and Levein's fault or not, but when two managers have struggled to get the midfield bossing it then usually it indicates that the players are at fault. Not good enough. 94443[/snapback] I wouldn't say Gudjonsson is bad exactly. Yeh ok he is never going to be a world beater but at least he gets stuck in and likes a tackle. Passionate player, we need more of his kind.
reynard Posted 18 April 2005 Posted 18 April 2005 the truth of our situation is more shocking than just in midfield. defensively we are not secure enough. every time the opposition get a corner/freekick/long throw in we have looked like and have acually conceded a goal. this has been the situation all season. defensively we need a goalkeeper(probably) 2 centre halves definitely left back definitely. midfield is woeful and imo has been ever since lennon left. of the current crop only hughes looks to have got any class/finesse. as yet he is unproven but he at least makes some good runs off the ball and seems to have an eye for the more attacking pass. we lack width inventiveness and the ability to win the ball. tiatto has been very poor for months and plays a bit like a brainless Robbie Savage. gudjonsson is shocking at times and imo just too small for this league also time after time on saturday he failed to spot a pass to the right and always turned into trouble. nalis is mentally back in france and gemmil and wilcox oth past it. gillespie has been good at time but when you nedd you supposed "big names" to step forward he goes missing. williams just flatters to deceive. if the midfield is poor then the attack is worse still. my question is do we really have any strikers on the books? de vries terrible, connolly poor man's dickov, wright just doesn't seem to have what it takes, morris always injured, blake crap upto now but is he worse than de vries and moore never gets a chance.
MON Posted 18 April 2005 Posted 18 April 2005 the truth of our situation is more shocking than just in midfield.defensively we are not secure enough. every time the opposition get a corner/freekick/long throw in we have looked like and have acually conceded a goal. this has been the situation all season. defensively we need a goalkeeper(probably) 2 centre halves definitely left back definitely. midfield is woeful and imo has been ever since lennon left. of the current crop only hughes looks to have got any class/finesse. as yet he is unproven but he at least makes some good runs off the ball and seems to have an eye for the more attacking pass. we lack width inventiveness and the ability to win the ball. tiatto has been very poor for months and plays a bit like a brainless Robbie Savage. gudjonsson is shocking at times and imo just too small for this league also time after time on saturday he failed to spot a pass to the right and always turned into trouble. nalis is mentally back in france and gemmil and wilcox oth past it. gillespie has been good at time but when you nedd you supposed "big names" to step forward he goes missing. williams just flatters to deceive. if the midfield is poor then the attack is worse still. my question is do we really have any strikers on the books? de vries terrible, connolly poor man's dickov, wright just doesn't seem to have what it takes, morris always injured, blake crap upto now but is he worse than de vries and moore never gets a chance. 94504[/snapback] Blake is better then De-vries. He can hold the ball up better, and has more pace. Give him a run in the side tommorow. Blake and Moore up front, with connolly just behind them.
Guest Posted 18 April 2005 Posted 18 April 2005 I remember the midfield breaking with electrifying pace to beat a feisty Derby 2-1 AWAY. 94434[/snapback] We were awful that night, and we certainly were very lucky to win that game!
Chandler Posted 18 April 2005 Posted 18 April 2005 I remember the midfield breaking with electrifying pace to beat a feisty Derby 2-1 AWAY. 94434[/snapback] We were awful that night, and we certainly were very lucky to win that game! 94558[/snapback] We rode our luck in the first half particularly Lisa, but we certainly were not awfull! If we were awful against Derby what adjective could you use to describe our first half performance against Wigan that is at least 1,000 times worse?
Guest Posted 18 April 2005 Posted 18 April 2005 I remember the midfield breaking with electrifying pace to beat a feisty Derby 2-1 AWAY. 94434[/snapback] We were awful that night, and we certainly were very lucky to win that game! 94558[/snapback] We rode our luck in the first half particularly Lisa, but we certainly were not awfull! If we were awful against Derby what adjective could you use to describe our first half performance against Wigan that is at least 1,000 times worse? 94594[/snapback] I'd say totally abysmal for Saturday, Chandler.
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