Gallagher's Goal

[Houdini Logic]

What about the possible Unsporting Behaviour point - that's in the "rulebook"? Perhaps the ref would have had to have blown his whistle before the ball went into the net to stop play for Unsporting Behaviour and the ref hadn't done that.

I'd like to see this 'unsporting behaviour' point in the rulebook (I'm not sure why you put rulebook in quotes - there clearly is one for Referees).

I'd particularly like to see the part which says that a team scoring a goal against their opposition in open play can be disallowed by the Referee...

[unreachable]

I'd like to see this 'unsporting behaviour' point in the rulebook (I'm not sure why you put rulebook in quotes - there clearly is one for Referees).

I'd particularly like to see the part which says that a team scoring a goal against their opposition in open play can be disallowed by the Referee...

I was just quoting rulebook from from you post. Incidentally Graham Poll answered a hypothetical question on this point and says it was a goal - he doesn't mention the Unsporting Behaviour point

http://www.clubnewsletter.co.uk/2009/mar/grahampoll.html

Graham's Question of the Month - submitted by referee Andy Polkey

This scenario happened during a recent under 13 game I refereed. Two players went in for a hard 50-50 challenge ten yards outside the penalty area. One player cried out in agony so I stopped the game, although the ball hadn't gone out of play.

There was no question of a foul - it was just a hard challenge. The injured player was removed from the pitch and I restarted the game with a drop ball near to where the incident occurred. I instructed the players it would be uncontested so the attacking team could just roll it back to the keeper which everyone agreed to.

I dropped the ball which the attacking player then decides to blast towards the top corner of the goal, obviously trying to score. Fortunately the ball hit the crossbar and went out of play. Needless to say mayhem ensued.

My question is what would have been my course of action if the ball had gone in. Does the goal stand? Could it have been disallowed? Should the offending player be cautioned? Hope you can help.

Grahams verdict: The goal would have counted as the referee has no rights to decide how many players from each side should contest a drop ball. I do not believe that you can judge the attacker's actions as unsporting as you have set the drop ball up incorrectly. The advice is not to arrange uncontested drop balls.

Is Graham Poll a good source? Discuss!

[DB11]

What about the possible Unsporting Behaviour point - that's in the "rulebook"? Perhaps the ref would have had to have blown his whistle before the ball went into the net to stop play for Unsporting Behaviour and the ref hadn't done that.

Well he doesn't because as long as play hasn't restarted he can do whatever.

I'd like to see this 'unsporting behaviour' point in the rulebook (I'm not sure why you put rulebook in quotes - there clearly is one for Referees).

I'd particularly like to see the part which says that a team scoring a goal against their opposition in open play can be disallowed by the Referee...

http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/federation/81/42/36/lawsofthegameen.pdf

Cautionable Offences

A player is cautioned and shown the yellow card if he commits any of the

following seven offences:

• unsporting behaviour

An indirect free kick is also awarded to the opposing team if, in the opinion of

the referee, a player:

• plays in a dangerous manner

• impedes the progress of an opponent

• prevents the goalkeeper from releasing the ball from his hands

• commits any other offence, not previously mentioned in Law 12, for which

play is stopped to caution or send off a player

So, in law, if a player does a step over and fools an opponent, the referee could deem it to be USB, stop play, caution him and give the other team an indirect free kick and he'd be right in law

[unreachable]

Well he doesn't because as long as play hasn't restarted he can do whatever.

http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/federation/81/42/36/lawsofthegameen.pdf

Cautionable Offences

A player is cautioned and shown the yellow card if he commits any of the

following seven offences:

• unsporting behaviour

An indirect free kick is also awarded to the opposing team if, in the opinion of

the referee, a player:

• plays in a dangerous manner

• impedes the progress of an opponent

• prevents the goalkeeper from releasing the ball from his hands

• commits any other offence, not previously mentioned in Law 12, for which

play is stopped to caution or send off a player

So, in law, if a player does a step over and fools an opponent, the referee could deem it to be USB, stop play, caution him and give the other team an indirect free kick and he'd be right in law

What i was getting at is the timescale. If the referee had directed Gallagher to pass the ball back to the goalkeeper and the referee deemed the pass back to be an attempt to score and not just a pass back would that in your opinion as a referee be unsporting behaviour? Apparently, the ball arrowed through the air like a missile and the goalkeeper was way off his line. Gallagher didn't pass the ball back slowly along the ground. King after the match said Gallagher may have tried to score.

I know it's all very academic and hypothetical so I'll make no further posts. But difficult and unusual situations do put officials on the spot and make them think about the Rules/Laws. They should make the right decision or admit they made a mistake.

[Cobbo]

Just common sense from the ref wasn't it? It was either that or we allow them to score straight off, where I could see Wayne Brown clotheslining whoever was running through unchallenged on goal...

Cracking strike from Gally though, I imagine that it may make an appearance on Soccer am?

[The Doctor]

Well he doesn't because as long as play hasn't restarted he can do whatever.

http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/federation/81/42/36/lawsofthegameen.pdf

Cautionable Offences

A player is cautioned and shown the yellow card if he commits any of the

following seven offences:

• unsporting behaviour

An indirect free kick is also awarded to the opposing team if, in the opinion of

the referee, a player:

• plays in a dangerous manner

• impedes the progress of an opponent

• prevents the goalkeeper from releasing the ball from his hands

• commits any other offence, not previously mentioned in Law 12, for which

play is stopped to caution or send off a player

So, in law, if a player does a step over and fools an opponent, the referee could deem it to be USB, stop play, caution him and give the other team an indirect free kick and he'd be right in law

thats happened before. In brazil a couple of years back, player was stuck in the corner with 3 defenders for company, did a couple of step overs and a rainbow flick to get away and the ref booked him for

Disrespecting his oppenent by dribbling with the ball