literally irrelevant to what's being discussed - the culture people are talking about is the egos behind the scenes, the sort of environment where it was seen as acceptable to hold up a sign saying Enzo I Miss U at a Christmas party when your current manager was under pressure, the sort of environment where players felt they could allegedly refuse to do strength and conditioning training under RvN, or turn up with their dogs like it was a trip down the park. If your pattern recognition is that that causes toxic reactions from fans, your pattern recognition is shit. The point is that that you don't need a manager who is tactically poor to fix that culture, you can do that and still win games of football.