Matt mills.. Sven what are you doing?

[Guest Col city fan]

There's no awkwardness, just a lack of long-term memory from numerous posters on FT when it comes to what they only posted last season. Is everyone calling for SSL to be dropped for todays game? He's only had one bad game etc.

Are you genuinely saying that because he's skipper he

can't or shouldn't be dropped? I believe the same argument was applied erroneously to King last season, especially after he drifted in and out of games consecutively throughout the season. There's plenty of others who had individually bad games, but then Sven had 'his favourites', who he was called for for keeping within the team.

Do you see where the double standards, or the simple

'Sven is useless' and not matter what decision he makes, if the result is not a win, then double standards are applied regardless of their prior posts?

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The issue is not about who the captain is and whether they can be dropped or not... Of course they can if they are repeatedly giving nothing to the team.

But to make mills skipper one week and then drop him after one bad performance (he was steady at Cov and we won at Rotherham) shows a lack of respect between manager and skipper... Anyway this has been done to death

You were one of the ones pre game that was applauding Sven for dropping mills I happened to notice...

[Nick]

There's no awkwardness, just a lack of long-term memory from numerous posters on FT when it comes to what they only posted last season. Is everyone calling for SSL to be dropped for todays game? He's only had one bad game etc.

Are you genuinely saying that because he's skipper he can't or shouldn't be dropped? I believe the same argument was applied erroneously to King last season, especially after he drifted in and out of games consecutively throughout the season. There's plenty of others who had individually bad games, but then Sven had 'his favourites', who he was called for for keeping within the team.

Do you see where the double standards, or the simple 'Sven is useless' and not matter what decision he makes, if the result is not a win, then double standards are applied regardless of their prior posts?

This.

So fed up of this attitude, I'm spending less and less time on the boards.

If we win all is excellent and if we lose our support is no longer unconditional and we call for the managers head but publicly say we'll give him till Christmas.

Bored and tired of these posters.

I'm not Sven's biggest advocate but look at the players we have - they are good players, give it some time before we get Iain Dowie in yeah?

FFS

[sphericalfox]

The issue is not about who the captain is and whether they can be dropped or not... Of course they can if they are repeatedly giving nothing to the team.

But to make mills skipper one week and then drop him after one bad performance (he was steady at Cov and we won at Rotherham) shows a lack of respect between manager and skipper... Anyway this has been done to death

You were one of the ones pre game that was applauding Sven for dropping mills I happened to notice...

Then why mention it as if it had any relevance?

Yes I was an advocate of dropping Mills, and I still believe that SSL is good enough to be his replacement.

My point is I didn't go on about dropping players or Sven's insistence on keeping his favourites on the pitch etc last season and then jump on Sven's back then minute he makes a decisive decision to drop a player because he didn't perform in his last game (and perhaps hadn't shaken it off in training) so didn't make the next team sheet.

People were constantly saying that Sven had no backbone and wouldn't be capable of making these decision, yet when he does, he gets just as much stick about it.

It's amazing how people have these crystal balls that can see off into other dimensions where Sven didn't drop Mills, he played in the last game, we gained a clean sheet, won 3-0, and Mills scored one of those, revitalising his low morale and justifying his place in the team.

It's called being hyper-critical, without any true justification, and my opinion of double standards with some posters is not only evident week on week, but I suspect the same people will be clambering for attention come 17:00.

[Guest Col city fan]

Compared to many over the past week I'm trying to stay positive.. I have continuously maintained that svens signings are ones I would have made. I'm sure we had this conversation in the summer?

Yesterday I posted a thread to ask for opinions on the new signings, then retracted it because it was a question being asked too soon

Finally I have continued to state that we will know 'what's what' by Christmas...

I simply felt that what Sven did with mills on weds night was managerially the wrong thing to do.. You don't.. Fair enough it's about opinions..

Over and out

[Nick]

Dropping the club captain after one poor performance sends out all the wrong messages to the player, the other players and the fans...

Sven should have stuck by mills tonight and motivated him to get straight back onto the pitch, roll his socks up and deliver a captains performance.

Would allardyce have dropped Nolan after one bad game?

This suggests to me that Sven and mills do not trust each other which, I would suggest, could have a negative effect on the dressing room. Rumour has it that St ledger has been kicking up a stink this week and it appears that he has been rewarded by a place in the first team..

IMO this is shocking management. The club captain needs to feel he is trusted by his manager and can then begin to lead the side on the pitch

Opinions please cos im bewildered?

Right. Fuck it. This needs saying. Well actually, I need to say it because these continual threads and posts are getting me down.

You are like a shitty 'I told you so, poison' needling it's way into every thread attempting to taint the manager with your speculative drivel because of your own insecurities about him which have been present since the first week you began to post (continually the same thing in different guises) on these boards.

Player performs terribly after being entrusted with position of responsibilty. Player is then dropped. Performances like this will not be tolerated. Good message surely?

But no, Sven is wrong.

Who gives a crap what Allardyce would do with Nolan. Nolan's not a central defender and that has no bearing on what Sven sees happening in the Leicester City dressing room.

Sven and Mills do not trust each other? This is based on absolutely nothing. A + B = Z (Z=Col City's Conclusion) There is no math no logic, just made up subjective nonsense to start another thread which taints the manager.

Next from that bit of genius we jump to the notion that this is upsetting the dressing room, so the manager now has discontent and can't man manage.

What evidence do we have for this? A bloggy post that may or may not be a mate of SSL which we all read on here and many of either discredited or thought that SSL's point should be made on the training pitch not by e-whining.

The next conclusion? Sven has bottled it, bowed down to SSL's whining and rewarded him with a place in the team. No evidence for this again.

The next conclusion is that this is 'shocking management' and lastly that until Mills feels trusted by the manager he can't lead the side effectively on the pitch. Based on what?

Millsy would be the first to say he had a shocker and got dropped and need to sort himself out as their are players nipping at his heels for a place in the side, that's why we have competition for places.

I value alternative opinions on these boards, I really do though these relentless threads and posts which simply find a new way each day to play 'Devil's Advocate' whilst continuing to twist the knife into any open wound or perceived managerial weakness is just becoming transparently tedious.

There are problems with the side, movement, round pegs round holes, personnel to complete formations, poor individual performances, players suspended - we can all see this.

Most of us can also offer constructive comment without making up nonsense in a laughable attempt to disgrace the manager.

Most of us.

Come on Col, let's now have the standard reply back how I don't own these boards, how you will continue to post the opinion your entitled to, and that I'm not offering footballing opinion just criticising others.........

Thing is, I do offer opinion. It's just harder to find as it's not the same one in every thread.

I'll still support this team and the manager after such a small amount of games and without having finished in the markets. I'll continue to ask questions. But I'll ridicule this sort of made up bollocks of a thread for what it really is every day - I just wish you could have just posted or polled - "Should the manager have dropped Mills ?" The rest of the crap around it just makes you look like a stirring reporter for the Daily Star.

End of rant.

[Guest Col city fan]

Right. Fuck it. This needs saying. Well actually, I need to say it because these continual threads and posts are getting me down.

You are like a shitty 'I told you so, poison' needling it's way into every thread attempting to taint the manager with your speculative drivel because of your own insecurities

about him which have been present since the first week you began to post (continually the same thing in different guises) on these boards.

Player performs terribly after being entrusted with position of responsibilty. Player is then dropped. Performances like this will not be tolerated. Good message surely?

But no, Sven is wrong.

Who gives a crap what Allardyce would do with Nolan. Nolan's not a central defender and that has no bearing on what Sven sees happening in the Leicester City dressing room.

Sven and Mills do not trust each other? This is based on

absolutely nothing. A + B = Z (Z=Col City's Conclusion) There is no math no logic, just made up subjective nonsense to start another thread which taints the manager.

Next from that bit of genius we jump to the notion that this

is upsetting the dressing room, so the manager now has discontent and can't man manage.

What evidence do we have for this? A bloggy post that may or may not be a mate of SSL which we all read on here and many of either discredited or thought that SSL's point should be made on the training pitch not by e-

whining.

The next conclusion? Sven has bottled it, bowed down to

SSL's whining and rewarded him with a place in the team. No evidence for this again.

The next conclusion is that this is 'shocking management'

and lastly that until Mills feels trusted by the manager he can't lead the side effectively on the pitch. Based on what?

Millsy would be the first to say he had a shocker and got

dropped and need to sort himself out as their are players nipping at his heels for a place in the side, that's why we have competition for places.

I value alternative opinions on these boards, I really do though these relentless threads and posts which simply find a new way each day to play 'Devil's Advocate' whilst continuing to twist the knife into any open wound or perceived managerial weakness is just becoming

transparently tedious.

There are problems with the side, movement, round pegs round holes, personnel to complete formations, poor individual performances, players suspended - we can all see this.

Most of us can also offer constructive comment without

making up nonsense in a laughable attempt to disgrace the manager.

Most of us.

Come on Col, let's now have the standard reply back how

I don't own these boards, how you will continue to post the

opinion your entitled to, and that I'm not offering footballing opinion just criticising others.........

Thing is, I do offer opinion. It's just harder to find as it's not the same one in every thread.

I'll still support this team and the manager after such a

small amount of games and without having finished in the markets. I'll continue to ask questions. But I'll ridicule this

sort of made up bollocks of a thread for what it really is every day - I just wish you could have just posted or polled - "Should the manager have dropped Mills ?" The rest of the crap around it just makes you look like a stirring reporter for the Daily Star.

End of rant.

Fookin hell what are you on today?

All that any of us on here can do, unless we have expert

insider knowledge (and I do have some inside info about what goes on but cannot divulge sources) is assume, surmise, hypothesise, predict, argue, debate about all

issues relating to city..

That's the point of this forum nick?

I don't exactly know about the r/ship between Sven and mills, who on here exactly does for gods sake?

That doesn't mean I can't post my point of view does it?

You're ranting today is reaching ridiculous bounds and I think you're in a bad mood...

Are you saying that no one can have any sort of view on

anything or proffer an opinion unless they absolutely know what is going on? That would make 99.9% of posts on here redundant

You've made some silly suggestions recently but this

one has to be the best of all! Hahahahaha

Cheer up man and I'll continue to post my view, try to be honest and give an opinion whether right or wrong. Such is the raison d'être of a football forum like this...

Cmon nick, try harder

Over and out

[tomtom]

Right. Fuck it. This needs saying. Well actually, I need to say it because these continual threads and posts are getting me down.

You are like a shitty 'I told you so, poison' needling it's way into every thread attempting to taint the manager with your speculative drivel because of your own insecurities about him which have been present since the first week you began to post (continually the same thing in different guises) on these boards.

Player performs terribly after being entrusted with position of responsibilty. Player is then dropped. Performances like this will not be tolerated. Good message surely?

But no, Sven is wrong.

Who gives a crap what Allardyce would do with Nolan. Nolan's not a central defender and that has no bearing on what Sven sees happening in the Leicester City dressing room.

Sven and Mills do not trust each other? This is based on absolutely nothing. A + B = Z (Z=Col City's Conclusion) There is no math no logic, just made up subjective nonsense to start another thread which taints the manager.

Next from that bit of genius we jump to the notion that this is upsetting the dressing room, so the manager now has discontent and can't man manage.

What evidence do we have for this? A bloggy post that may or may not be a mate of SSL which we all read on here and many of either discredited or thought that SSL's point should be made on the training pitch not by e-whining.

The next conclusion? Sven has bottled it, bowed down to SSL's whining and rewarded him with a place in the team. No evidence for this again.

The next conclusion is that this is 'shocking management' and lastly that until Mills feels trusted by the manager he can't lead the side effectively on the pitch. Based on what?

Millsy would be the first to say he had a shocker and got dropped and need to sort himself out as their are players nipping at his heels for a place in the side, that's why we have competition for places.

I value alternative opinions on these boards, I really do though these relentless threads and posts which simply find a new way each day to play 'Devil's Advocate' whilst continuing to twist the knife into any open wound or perceived managerial weakness is just becoming transparently tedious.

There are problems with the side, movement, round pegs round holes, personnel to complete formations, poor individual performances, players suspended - we can all see this.

Most of us can also offer constructive comment without making up nonsense in a laughable attempt to disgrace the manager.

Most of us.

Come on Col, let's now have the standard reply back how I don't own these boards, how you will continue to post the opinion your entitled to, and that I'm not offering footballing opinion just criticising others.........

Thing is, I do offer opinion. It's just harder to find as it's not the same one in every thread.

I'll still support this team and the manager after such a small amount of games and without having finished in the markets. I'll continue to ask questions. But I'll ridicule this sort of made up bollocks of a thread for what it really is every day - I just wish you could have just posted or polled - "Should the manager have dropped Mills ?" The rest of the crap around it just makes you look like a stirring reporter for the Daily Star.

End of rant.

Gotta say I completely agree with this!

Not knowing anyone personaly on here but just remembering user names (not aimed at col city) there are certain people that just speal negative bullshit without the slightest thing to back it up

[Guest Col city fan]

Gotta say I completely agree with this!

Not knowing anyone personaly on here but just remembering user names (not aimed at col city) there are certain people that just speal negative bullshit without the slightest thing to back it up

I still think nick has gotten out of the wrong side of bed this morning though...