lush Posted 19 August 2005 Posted 19 August 2005 A COUPLEwere banned from playing the Robbie Williams hit ANGELS at their civil wedding  in case it offended non-Christians. Howard Monks, 47, and Julie Sagar-Doyle, 36, wanted the star’s 1997 song played as they took their vows, because it is “their tuneâ€Â. But just 15 minutes before the ceremony, politically correct bureaucrats barred the tune by Robbie, as it contains the word heaven  giving it “religious connotationsâ€Â. Instead the pair had to settle for Shania Twain’s From This Moment when they wed at Dukinfield registry office, Greater Manchester. Printer Howard, of Hadfield, Derbys, blasted: “It’s ridiculous to say this would upset ethnic minorities. It’s just a pop song. Robbie’s hardly some religious bigot.†The General Register Office said it is now reviewing the content of civil marriages. I wasnt much of a fan to this tune before yesterday, but i ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT NOW Thanks you VICIOUS PC MOB, you`ve added a top class tune to my music libary. Angels: I sit and wait Does an angel contemplate my fate And do they know The places where we go When we're grey and old 'cos I have been told That salvation lets their wings unfold So when I'm lying in my bed Thoughts running through my head And I feel the love is dead I'm loving angels instead And through it all she offers me protection A lot of love and affection Whether I'm right or wrong And down the waterfall Wherever it may take me I know that life won't break me When I come to call she won't forsake me I'm loving angels instead When I'm feeling weak And my pain walks down a one way street I look above And I know I'll always be blessed with love And as the feeling grows She breathes flesh to my bones And when love is dead I'm loving angels instead And through it all she offers me protection A lot of love and affection Whether I'm right or wrong And down the waterfall Wherever it may take me I know that life won't break me When I come to call she won't forsake me I'm loving angels instead And through it all she offers me protection A lot of love and affection Whether I'm right or wrong And down the waterfall Wherever it may take me I know that life won't break me When I come to call she won't forsake me I'm loving angels instead Whack it UP, show this bunch of left wing marxist rebels you wont stand for their vicious rule of law!!
Ultra Posted 19 August 2005 Posted 19 August 2005 Look, if I wanted to read stories in the Sun, I'd buy a copy of the paper! How can you be sure the story's not being twisted or even made up? Oh and by the way I'll think you'll find it's the CHURCH who are behind these restrictions, not local councils!
stez Posted 19 August 2005 Posted 19 August 2005 i never really thought of it as a religious song. although when it came on the radio i did think 'oh god!' edit: just noticed the chaps name, how come the couple were allowed to be called monks? that offends me deeply
davieG Posted 19 August 2005 Posted 19 August 2005 I'm not convinced the strory hasn't been twisted in order to make a headline; as I understand it civil weddings have to be completely secular, as in no mention of ANY religion or have any religious connotations at all. If you want to mention any of that you should get married in a church/synagogue/mosque etc. Having said that their interpretation of the law seems somewhat overdone.
Leicester_Mad Posted 19 August 2005 Posted 19 August 2005 hate the song - it was played at my aunts funeral last year
lush Posted 19 August 2005 Author Posted 19 August 2005 How can you be sure the story's not being twisted or even made up?Oh and by the way I'll think you'll find it's the CHURCH who are behind these restrictions, not local councils! 159121[/snapback] I bought the daily star yesterday (it was 15p), and the story is on page 4. I tunned in to talksports james whale last night, and its their main topic of conversation. I searched the story on the web, and found the suns report, plus others including the local manchester news, check for yourself. It was a civil ceremony, nothing to do with the church.
davieG Posted 19 August 2005 Posted 19 August 2005 I bought the daily star yesterday (it was 15p), and the story is on page 4.I tunned in to talksports james whale last night, and its their main topic of conversation. I searched the story on the web, and found the suns report, plus others including the local manchester news, check for yourself. It was a civil ceremony, nothing to do with the church. 159147[/snapback] That's why they are not allowed to have ANY religious context, i.e you can't play hymns etc, I think they've just gone too far nothing to do with offending other religions as I've said in my prevous post - That's how I would interpret their decision.
lush Posted 19 August 2005 Author Posted 19 August 2005 That's why they are not allowed to have ANY religious context , i.e you can't play hymns etc, I think they've just gone too far nothing to do with offending other religions as I've said in my prevous post - That's how I would interpret their decision. 159161[/snapback] EVERY song ever written and produced could be deemed ``religious`` to someone, thats why its such a pathetic thing to ban. If the fascist PC brigade had a brain, they`d have it be that people are ware of the song being played, and that if anyone had a problem, speak out, if not, no prob. But that wouldnt be good enough for these vicious liberal fascists, they wana force their mob ideology upon us, well i aint having it. Robbie williams song Angels is on full blast right now. JOIN ME!!
davieG Posted 19 August 2005 Posted 19 August 2005 EVERY song ever written and produced could be deemed ``religious`` to someone, thats why its such a pathetic thing to ban.If the fascist PC brigade had a brain, they`d have it be that people are ware of the song being played, and that if anyone had a problem, speak out, if not, no prob. But that wouldnt be good enough for these vicious liberal fascists, they wana force their mob ideology upon us, well i aint having it. Robbie williams song Angels is on full blast right now. JOIN ME!! 159169[/snapback] I don't know how long 'civil marriages' have been legal but that's how long that rule has been there, not really the fault of any modern 'facist pc brigade' more the price that was paid to legalise secular marriages. You could argue that it is a good thing as it ensures that civil marriages are not hi-jacked by any religious sect. But as I said it's all in the interpretation.
lush Posted 19 August 2005 Author Posted 19 August 2005 I don't know how long 'civil marriages' have been legal but that's how long that rule has been there, not really the fault of any modern 'facist pc brigade' more the price that was paid to legalise secular marriages. 159187[/snapback] Lets be bloody civilised here...2 people tieing the knot in public, all they wanted was a song played that didnt/hasnt ever upset anyone, and along comes a mob, fascist behaving, mentality (all of a sudden) to spoil things. Does it seem reasonable to ban all musical related civil ceremonies, because the music COULD be offensive to someones religious belief? Because if banning one song is "justyfied", then banning every song is "justyfied". The thing to realise here is, its not about that people might be offended, its about mob culture forcing their fascist ideology upon everyone. The british public need to take a good long look at themselves here, and ask WHY they let tony bliar do this?? Sensible people couldnt give a monkeys if 2 people wanted "Angels" playing whilst they got wed.
CasinoGee Posted 19 August 2005 Posted 19 August 2005 The fact that you by that paper and listen to James Whale speaks volumes about how we should value your views. <_<
Rincewind Posted 19 August 2005 Posted 19 August 2005 I very much doubt that these were the reasons that it was deemed unsuitable. Still this sort of story must please the BNP and the NF no end. Next we'll be told that all Christians songs are to be banned and the right wing Nazi groups will follow like sheep. Is it not also likely that the minister at church where the service was to be held thought the song not christian enough for a wedding? It only takes a little non-predjudice reasoning.
davieG Posted 19 August 2005 Posted 19 August 2005 Lets be bloody civilised here...2 people tieing the knot in public, all they wanted was a song played that didnt/hasnt ever upset anyone, and along comes a mob, fascist behaving, mentality (all of a sudden) to spoil things.Does it seem reasonable to ban all musical related civil ceremonies, because the music COULD be offensive to someones religious belief? Because if banning one song is "justyfied", then banning every song is "justyfied". The thing to realise here is, its not about that people might be offended, its about mob culture forcing their fascist ideology upon everyone. The british public need to take a good long look at themselves here, and ask WHY they let tony bliar do this?? Sensible people couldnt give a monkeys if 2 people wanted "Angels" playing whilst they got wed. 159213[/snapback] Calm down, I'm not disagreeing I'm just trying to show why and how it's happened, as for facist ideolgy and political correctness it's been around a lot longer than Blair, your view would hold more a lot more credibility, certainly for me, not that you'd care what I might think if you didn't let your obvious hatred for the Blair cloud your views and populate your posts. And just for the record a similar thing happened at my sister's wedding 30 years ago and no I didn't vote for Blair as I have a particular dislike for ALL party politics.
Rincewind Posted 19 August 2005 Posted 19 August 2005 sorry I thought it was a funeral. close enough. It brought memories of a friends funeral a few years ago when there was a trad jazz band ahead of the coffin.
Guest Posted 19 August 2005 Posted 19 August 2005 Maybe the fact some pagans belive in angels is the real reason. If you want a persecuted religion, look at paganism.
lush Posted 19 August 2005 Author Posted 19 August 2005 The fact that you by that paper and listen to James Whale speaks volumes about how we should value your views. <_< 159215[/snapback] Explain?
lush Posted 19 August 2005 Author Posted 19 August 2005 as for facist ideolgy and political correctness it's been around a lot longer than Blair , your view would hold more a lot more credibility, certainly for me, not that you'd care what I might think if you didn't let your obvious hatred for the Blair cloud your views and populate your posts .And just for the record a similar thing happened at my sister's wedding 30 years ago and no I didn't vote for Blair as I have a particular dislike for ALL party politics. 159217[/snapback] bliar could change this pc madness. If i didnt care what you thought, i wouldnt have a convo with you. `cloud my views`? you`ll have to explain that one for me. `populate my posts`? explain how me talking about blair has done just that, because to my knowledge ive mentioned him 50 times max in over 800 posts How upset was your sister?
Thracian Posted 20 August 2005 Posted 20 August 2005 Look, if I wanted to read stories in the Sun, I'd buy a copy of the paper!How can you be sure the story's not being twisted or even made up? Oh and by the way I'll think you'll find it's the CHURCH who are behind these restrictions, not local councils! 159121[/snapback] Is that your argument for everything. If it's a story that doesn't suit your views on the world then it's made up, twisted or it's been published in The Sun? Classic activist response ... discredit it. How on earth any reasonable person could ban that song is ludicrous. If someone passed a law that said all first born children should be slaughtered then there are jobsworths in this country who would apply it.
rossporterlc Posted 20 August 2005 Posted 20 August 2005 that's bollox, can't ban people from playing songs at their wedding
lush Posted 20 August 2005 Author Posted 20 August 2005 How on earth any reasonable person could ban that song is ludicrous. If someone passed a law that said all first born children should be slaughtered then there are jobsworths in this country who would apply it. 159330[/snapback] Thats the scary thing about left wing politics, they`d rather make someone happy shorterm, regardless of the long term consequences for everyone else. Banning a record because it might offend some, when it makes loads of people happy.
Gamesmaster Posted 21 August 2005 Posted 21 August 2005 that's bollox, can't ban people from playing songs at their wedding 159439[/snapback] you cant ban em from karaoke neither
Rincewind Posted 22 August 2005 Posted 22 August 2005 Perhaps they asked for a 50 pice orchestra and Robbie Williams to sing it live, in tune and without miming. 50 piece orchestra? Well possible. But............
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