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  1. Politics Thread (encompassing Brexit) - 21 June 2017 onwards

    No you’re right the vote didn’t directly affect any of the Brexit procedure/negotiations etc. It was more about ensuring that the final decision-making is done by Parliament, rather than the Government. What’s confusing is that the Government would try to bypass Parliament in the first place. Parliament is merely just standing up for itself (and by extention, the British people) in the face of a Government that does not want to be accountable for its actions on Brexit. Why the Government doesn’t feel accountable, I really don’t know. They say that this will undermine negotiations – but there really is no logic to that argument. Parliament’s job is to monitor the Government, and represent our interests. What it means in effect is that the Government will need to ensure that Parliament are happy with any final Brexit deal. So this is more democratic that the Government deciding everything without having to get the nod from Parliament. There is actually nothing controversial about this. It's the British democratic process and has been for 100s of years. The populist right-wing press and politicians though just see it as an opportunity to undermine democracy. http://www.parliament.uk/about/how/role/parliament-government/
  2. Politics Thread (encompassing Brexit) - 21 June 2017 onwards

    I actually think it’s quite lame by the Mail’s standards. The trouble for the Mail now is that there simply isn’t a version of Brexit that is going to be acceptable for it. And they really have shot their load in terms of their efforts at propaganda. “Proud of yourselves?” is the sort of thing you say to children. It doesn’t really hold a candle to the Goebbels-esque prequels of “Crush the sabatuers” or “Enemies of the people”. Propaganda only works if people don’t notice that they’re being ordered what to think. Once the Mail starts turning on it’s own party I think most people will be repulsed by it. Nobody likes being told what to think. Ironically, Corbyn is probably the happiest man in the country after reading the Mail front page. The Mail is actually promoting Labour as the alternative to its own hysterical bile and thought-control!
  3. Southampton (A) Match Thread

    One shot. One shot on target One goal 100% pass accuracy. One Andy King
  4. Southampton (A) Match Thread

    Just fcuking wow. Every single City player looks like a world-beater. Just wait until we bring on Iborra, Albrighton and Gray. Is this squad actually better that the one that won the league in 2016?
  5. Southampton (A) Match Thread

    Adolf at Reich back.
  6. Politics Thread (encompassing Brexit) - 21 June 2017 onwards

    It's not that. It's that you don't understand what the statistics that you're quoting mean. My source is Parliament, whose job it is to hold the Government to account. And Parliament say: "We cannot judge how effective HMRC is at reducing the tax gap because the way it reports its performance is too confusing" https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201516/cmselect/cmpubacc/674/67405.htm
  7. Politics Thread (encompassing Brexit) - 21 June 2017 onwards

    You're too soft on them. Cost of free breakfasts between £180m and £400m per year: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-40032282 Groan. Tax gap is just the difference between what the HMRC is expecting and what it gets. It doesn't include tax fraud, or something: https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201516/cmselect/cmpubacc/674/67405.htm Alex Cobham, research director at Tax Justice Network, said: “ There is a real risk that this tax gap analysis may be taken seriously as the basis for policy – in which case HMRC would continue to ignore the major revenue risks represented by multinationals. It’s important for public confidence, as much as for better policymaking, that HMRC swiftly addresses this spurious estimate.” Seriously, very poor from you Webbo. Another blind alley you've sent us down. Very few people actually believe that tax avoidance isn't an issue. The counter-argument is that it's impossible to track, and that it's necessary to the economy. Very few people actually believes that it's simply not happening.
  8. Politics Thread (encompassing Brexit) - 21 June 2017 onwards

    Boom. Sums up things better than I ever could.
  9. Politics Thread (encompassing Brexit) - 21 June 2017 onwards

    Then retract your comment and stop saying things for which you've absolutely no evidence. It just skews what is a good debate and sends us off down blind alleys. Waste of time.
  10. Politics Thread (encompassing Brexit) - 21 June 2017 onwards

    Are they allowed to drink water in the morning? Or should they wait until they get home?
  11. Politics Thread (encompassing Brexit) - 21 June 2017 onwards

    What is the Government's job then?
  12. Politics Thread (encompassing Brexit) - 21 June 2017 onwards

    I'm actually blaming them for taking billions of pounds out of the UK economy. Do you have a source for your comment about the Govt reducing tax avoidance.
  13. Politics Thread (encompassing Brexit) - 21 June 2017 onwards

    Did you make it up off the top of your head?
  14. Politics Thread (encompassing Brexit) - 21 June 2017 onwards

    All the robots obviously. Keep up!
  15. Politics Thread (encompassing Brexit) - 21 June 2017 onwards

    It's a good point. In fact, if we remove all benefits altogether then we'll be able to give each British child a full English every school morning; and we won't even need those lovely billionaires to dip into their Caymen Island accounts, which as we know, would cause the economy to immediately explode into flames. This is "a long-term solution that tackles the problem."
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