seems like a fair write-up here from the other lot, with this a good nail / head summary "This is clearly a club with issues. From champions of England, FA Cup winners, Champions League football and European nights, to the absolute state of them now, the mismanagement of what was previously seen to be one of the country’s better run clubs is chronic. With talk of points deductions to come and Christmas payroll delays this might well get worse before it gets better......That’s not an environment conducive to good football, or positive results. The atmosphere and vibe around the place is all wrong, there’s a stench of death in the air, and football teams rarely come together as cohesive, effective units in those circumstances. But **** me you’d have to go a hell of a long way to see a team less than the sum of its parts than this one. Does professional pride not come into at some stage?"