dan_84 Posted 4 November 2004 Posted 4 November 2004 First things first im not trying to slag Pressman off but i really think we need to get walker back in our goal. Pressman has cost us 9-12 points at least, with the games at Preston, Ipswich, and Crewe. and even possibly QPR. I thought Walker was going to be fit for the cardiff game? Anyone got any news on it? that 12 points could be the difference between finishing 6th and finishing 7th. Maybe if Walker is a way off we should try and loan someone in or maybe try Conrad Logan...
Cobbo Posted 4 November 2004 Posted 4 November 2004 First things first im not trying to slag Pressman off but i really think we need to get walker back in our goal. Pressman has cost us 9-12 points at least, with the games at Preston, Ipswich, and Crewe. and even possibly QPR.I thought Walker was going to be fit for the cardiff game? Anyone got any news on it? that 12 points could be the difference between finishing 6th and finishing 7th. Maybe if Walker is a way off we should try and loan someone in or maybe try Conrad Logan... 33129[/snapback] I want Walker back in the team as soon as poss too... But you're blaming Pressman for Ipswich? Did you see the save he made in the second half? World class! Much more confident when we have Walks between the sticks though.
Scarby Posted 4 November 2004 Posted 4 November 2004 i think everyone thinks Walker is better, but you cant play an injuryed man!!! Pressman could have done a lot worse! Logan hasnt got the experience again because not playing youth in the reserves! It waqs always Coyne etc. Logan is an exercent perspect from what i here (even he did let 3 in aganst Southampton) but then again Michael Price was meant to have good as well
Scow Posted 4 November 2004 Posted 4 November 2004 I can only think of two real 'mistakes' he's committed - One against Preston, which was freaky to be fair. The other against Crewe. I think he's been excellent for us apart from that. I think he's saved us on more occasions than he's cost us. He does tend to flap at corners and doesn't seem commanding at times, that's an area I feel Walker does well in. I don't think you can blame him for QPR and Ipswich - Against QPR, he was exposed from close range on every goal. As for Ipswich, he wasn't to blame for either goals. He came out to block the initial shot superbly for the first goal, but was just unlucky to see the ball fall to Westlake who lobbed it over him.
Leicester_Mad Posted 4 November 2004 Posted 4 November 2004 I can only think of two real 'mistakes' he's committed - One against Preston, which was freaky to be fair. The other against Crewe.I think he's been excellent for us apart from that. I think he's saved us on more occasions than he's cost us. He does tend to flap at corners and doesn't seem commanding at times, that's an area I feel Walker does well in. I don't think you can blame him for QPR and Ipswich - Against QPR, he was exposed from close range on every goal. As for Ipswich, he wasn't to blame for either goals. He came out to block the initial shot superbly for the first goal, but was just unlucky to see the ball fall to Westlake who lobbed it over him. 33133[/snapback] good points and the Preston game was just very unlucky and it wont happen to another keeper for a good few years. Against Cardiff he made a class save and "won" us the point so on the points he has lost us he has certainly helped in other games to win them, the Gillingham game also being an example!
Shum Posted 4 November 2004 Posted 4 November 2004 Pressman has done better than I expected! Didn't a certain Mr Walker make some clangers last season?
Scow Posted 4 November 2004 Posted 4 November 2004 Pressman has done better than I expected!Didn't a certain Mr Walker make some clangers last season? 33176[/snapback] He did indeed. But because Walker's not fat and old, it's ok for him to do it. All goalkeepers make mistakes - Just like every other player does on the pitch, it's the nature of the game. Being a goalkeeper, mistakes are scrutinised much more compared to that of other positions. If a striker misses a chance on goal, then that will be forgotten soon enough. If a goalkeper makes a mistake, then he's vilified for it.
Guest Posted 4 November 2004 Posted 4 November 2004 Pressman has done better than I expected!Didn't a certain Mr Walker make some clangers last season? 33176[/snapback] He did indeed. But because Walker's not fat and old, it's ok for him to do it. All goalkeepers make mistakes - Just like every other player does on the pitch, it's the nature of the game. Being a goalkeeper, mistakes are scrutinised much more compared to that of other positions. If a striker misses a chance on goal, then that will be forgotten soon enough. If a goalkeper makes a mistake, then he's vilified for it. 33177[/snapback] Usually because when a keeper makes such a mistake, it leads to a goal.
Hullfox Posted 4 November 2004 Posted 4 November 2004 Pressman has done better than I expected!Didn't a certain Mr Walker make some clangers last season? 33176[/snapback] He did indeed. But because Walker's not fat and old, it's ok for him to do it. All goalkeepers make mistakes - Just like every other player does on the pitch, it's the nature of the game. Being a goalkeeper, mistakes are scrutinised much more compared to that of other positions. If a striker misses a chance on goal, then that will be forgotten soon enough. If a goalkeper makes a mistake, then he's vilified for it. 33177[/snapback] Usually because when a keeper makes such a mistake, it leads to a goal. 33210[/snapback] If he'd timed his fall slightly better, he'd have burst the ball, I swear he would.
Guest Posted 4 November 2004 Posted 4 November 2004 Pressman has done better than I expected!Didn't a certain Mr Walker make some clangers last season? 33176[/snapback] He did indeed. But because Walker's not fat and old, it's ok for him to do it. All goalkeepers make mistakes - Just like every other player does on the pitch, it's the nature of the game. Being a goalkeeper, mistakes are scrutinised much more compared to that of other positions. If a striker misses a chance on goal, then that will be forgotten soon enough. If a goalkeper makes a mistake, then he's vilified for it. 33177[/snapback] Usually because when a keeper makes such a mistake, it leads to a goal. 33210[/snapback] If he'd timed his fall slightly better, he'd have burst the ball, I swear he would. 33219[/snapback] He must have been breathing in, or something???
Scow Posted 4 November 2004 Posted 4 November 2004 Pressman has done better than I expected!Didn't a certain Mr Walker make some clangers last season? 33176[/snapback] He did indeed. But because Walker's not fat and old, it's ok for him to do it. All goalkeepers make mistakes - Just like every other player does on the pitch, it's the nature of the game. Being a goalkeeper, mistakes are scrutinised much more compared to that of other positions. If a striker misses a chance on goal, then that will be forgotten soon enough. If a goalkeper makes a mistake, then he's vilified for it. 33177[/snapback] Usually because when a keeper makes such a mistake, it leads to a goal. 33210[/snapback] Well, yes, but the point is goalkeepers are criticised far too heavily in comparison to players in other positions regarding mistakes.
Guest Posted 4 November 2004 Posted 4 November 2004 Pressman has done better than I expected!Didn't a certain Mr Walker make some clangers last season? 33176[/snapback] He did indeed. But because Walker's not fat and old, it's ok for him to do it. All goalkeepers make mistakes - Just like every other player does on the pitch, it's the nature of the game. Being a goalkeeper, mistakes are scrutinised much more compared to that of other positions. If a striker misses a chance on goal, then that will be forgotten soon enough. If a goalkeper makes a mistake, then he's vilified for it. 33177[/snapback] Usually because when a keeper makes such a mistake, it leads to a goal. 33210[/snapback] Well, yes, but the point is goalkeepers are criticised far too heavily in comparison to players in other positions regarding mistakes. 33242[/snapback] Because of the above!! We could go round in circles here !!!!
Scow Posted 4 November 2004 Posted 4 November 2004 Pressman has done better than I expected!Didn't a certain Mr Walker make some clangers last season? 33176[/snapback] He did indeed. But because Walker's not fat and old, it's ok for him to do it. All goalkeepers make mistakes - Just like every other player does on the pitch, it's the nature of the game. Being a goalkeeper, mistakes are scrutinised much more compared to that of other positions. If a striker misses a chance on goal, then that will be forgotten soon enough. If a goalkeper makes a mistake, then he's vilified for it. 33177[/snapback] Usually because when a keeper makes such a mistake, it leads to a goal. 33210[/snapback] Well, yes, but the point is goalkeepers are criticised far too heavily in comparison to players in other positions regarding mistakes. 33242[/snapback] Because of the above!! We could go round in circles here !!!! 33244[/snapback] I know. All I'm saying is that people go OTT about it, it can destroy a keeper's confidence.
Guest Posted 4 November 2004 Posted 4 November 2004 Pressman has done better than I expected!Didn't a certain Mr Walker make some clangers last season? 33176[/snapback] He did indeed. But because Walker's not fat and old, it's ok for him to do it. All goalkeepers make mistakes - Just like every other player does on the pitch, it's the nature of the game. Being a goalkeeper, mistakes are scrutinised much more compared to that of other positions. If a striker misses a chance on goal, then that will be forgotten soon enough. If a goalkeper makes a mistake, then he's vilified for it. 33177[/snapback] Usually because when a keeper makes such a mistake, it leads to a goal. 33210[/snapback] Well, yes, but the point is goalkeepers are criticised far too heavily in comparison to players in other positions regarding mistakes. 33242[/snapback] Because of the above!! We could go round in circles here !!!! 33244[/snapback] I know. All I'm saying is that people go OTT about it, it can destroy a keeper's confidence. 33245[/snapback] That it can.
kirkup21 Posted 4 November 2004 Posted 4 November 2004 I can think of 3 mistakes pressman has made, 1 in each of the preston games and obviously the other night but I think some of the fantastic saves hes produced have somehow made up for them.
emmalcfc Posted 4 November 2004 Posted 4 November 2004 First things first im not trying to slag Pressman off but i really think we need to get walker back in our goal. Pressman has cost us 9-12 points at least, with the games at Preston, Ipswich, and Crewe. and even possibly QPR.I thought Walker was going to be fit for the cardiff game? Anyone got any news on it? that 12 points could be the difference between finishing 6th and finishing 7th. Maybe if Walker is a way off we should try and loan someone in or maybe try Conrad Logan... 33129[/snapback] You think Pressmans lost us points, you haven't seen points being lost by a goalie until you see Logan. I've seen him play for the reserves, and he makes plenty of them.
Jonbluefox9 Posted 4 November 2004 Posted 4 November 2004 A striker can have an absolutely terrible game and miss chance after chance but in stoppage time score the winner and be the hero. A goalkeeper on the other hand can keep a team at bay with brilliant saves for 89 minutes and then make an error that lets the other team score and win the match. He's then the villiain. That's the difference between the two.
Ash Posted 4 November 2004 Posted 4 November 2004 Levein : " Iam hopeful Walker will be back on the training ground next week " So im guessing he wont be back for Cov
Steven Posted 4 November 2004 Posted 4 November 2004 Levein : " Iam hopeful Walker will be back on the training ground next week " So im guessing he wont be back for Cov 33299[/snapback] A reasonable assumption. :w00t: :w00t:
Jonbluefox9 Posted 4 November 2004 Posted 4 November 2004 I don't understand this. Walker's been back training for a while now.
andy_croydz Posted 4 November 2004 Posted 4 November 2004 Some good points by Scowy made in this topic, as a keeper myself i have made a few mistakes and i play about every 5 days with my mates so obviuosly im bound to make a mistake here and there when i play so often, when i do make one i just tell myself to not worry about it and carry on as i was before and my mates have praised me a lot of times about some great saves i make, then agen ive made a few errors and theyve had a go. But all keepers do, if a keeper tells you hes never made a mistake hes lying, it maybe a ball that bobbled up in front of you and goes in or you drop a catch because it was raining and the ball was slippery and your gloves arnt gripping as well as they would in dry conditions and the other team score from it it could be numerous things like that.
Anish Posted 4 November 2004 Posted 4 November 2004 Although I think Pressman has made some unbelievable saves, I don't have any confidence of him in goal. Nobody knows just what he is capable of - one minute pulling off super saves, the next making stupid blunders. I don't think the defence have much faith in him either - I don't think we should get rid of him and bring in Logan, but I think we need Walker back badly.
Jonbluefox9 Posted 7 November 2004 Posted 7 November 2004 I didn't see Walker at training today but he might've been told to rest up and prepare for a start against Coventry. Keown was doing some running and said he should be fit and ready by next week.
Scow Posted 7 November 2004 Posted 7 November 2004 Levein has said that Walker won't be back in training until next week I think, so I very much doubt he'll play against Coventry. I thought he was already back in training, so I'm a bit baffled by that.
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