Way too much negative stuff on here at the moment

[Zingari]

With no money and getting rid of players i'd say 6 places shows a marked improvement.

just joking , yes its ok but hardly the stuff of dreams

[James.]

just joking , yes its ok but hardly the stuff of dreams

Just come out and say it Zingari - you still wish Walsh had been given the job.

[Fez of Mahrez]

wow thats impressive ; 14th to 8th in just 18 months

I wouldn't be so quick to mock that.

We finished in a similar position under Kelly and bombed the next season. Overachieving teams rarely improve year upon year but that's what Plymouth have done. You can say Holloway has done poorly so far with us but you can't help but be impressed with what he did at Plymouth.

Look at the likes of Colchester and Luton in this division in recent years.

[Zingari]

Just come out and say it Zingari - you still wish Walsh had been given the job.

as a "Walsh" myself , yes i wish that the job had gone to the famous "Walsh"

really don't see how he could have done worse, and if he had achieved the same results as ollie, he would have been sacked by now

[Webbo]

I'm not over-reacting.

I thought we would end up around 10th before the season started...I now believe in all honesty that we will be locked into a relegation battle, just look at the stats of the last few seasons and you will see we are performing as badly. The upside to those stats is that we didn't get relegated, but I don't see that happening again.

Ollie had his 'bounce' as new manager but hasn't really impressed me so far, his first two signings are distinctly uninspiring and the loser attitude is still pervasive throughout the squad. Meanwhile we are looking at signing a player with 'potential' whereas we desperately need players of proven quality.

The minute someone actually thinks of something to be positive about then let me know.

I personally think we'll up somewhere around 10-15th, a big disappointment from what I was hoping pre-season. Ollie knows where the problems lie and I'm sure he'll sign better players than we've got now.

I'm more bored by Leicester City these days than worried about it.

Me too.