Back Ollie!

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Seem to remember last season sunderland were in the bottom 3 when keane went there looked what happened to them, My wifes cousin is a season ticket holder there and he said sunderland were SHIT side until keane went there.Love him or hate him he did a marvelous job there last season and he had got no managerial experience, True he had a few quid pushed his way but he got them up in one go and i cant see holloway doing that by giving him a full season next year.Everybody has their own opinion on football you have yours i have mine. Mine his i dont think holloway is no more than ccc manager-sorry.

Seem to also remember that Sunderland had a decent team last year in the bottom 3! Although they may have been playing shit, they still had the players, we didn't/don't!

You can't compare two completely different situations like that... its just not comparable as there are many differences between the clubs and the league table.

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You forgot to include Billy Davies into that at Derby.

And also Warnock at Palace.

He inherited a struggling team and turned them round - something Holloway has yet to do here.

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I love Ian Holloway.

You're very easily pleased. Many City fans set their standards a lot higher

He inherited a club low on morale and somewhat shellshocked. He inherited an enormous squad that was almost unmanageable and with no sense of team spirit. He inherited a crowd that all too easily got on its players' backs. He inherited a team playing anti-football under Megson.

Three weeks before he came here, we came within three minutes of an unbelievable win at Chelsea. And in his first game, we won away to a team that may well be in the Premier league next season. So it's not exactly like we were in freefall.

There have been plenty of games since he's been here (eg Hull and Coventry away, Plymouth and Preston at home) where we've also played with no sense of team spirit.

Whether or not the results have reflected it, it's easy to see that he's solving these problems. I don't think we'll get a manager better than Ollie to remedy the mental side of the game, and thats what we've needed the whole time. Unfortunately this is the side of management that takes longest, but the players DO look more motivated and willing to play for each other. We do look more like turning around bad results when we go a goal down. It might be a case that we have to learn from mistakes all over again as a team, despite experienced individuals, but we're doing it, slowly but surely. I don't see us ever losing a game again when the opposition go a man down.

A sadly all-too-typical knee-jerk reaction based on the last result. Quality managers enable their teams to put a run of decent games together, not shine sporadically as we've done under Holloway. There's no guarantee that come Saturday we won't regress to the usual sad bunch of clueless fcukwits we've seen so often this season, especially if Holloway is foolish enough to recall Clemence.

I'm confident that with what we've got now, a decent finish to this season and a full pre-season build-up will have us ready for a much better campaign next season.

Even a "decent" finish might not be enough to save Holloway. If season tickets prove hard to shift, Mandaric may decide to get rid anyway.

[Flynny]

A sadly all-too-typical knee-jerk reaction based on the last result. Quality managers enable their teams to put a run of decent games together, not shine sporadically as we've done under Holloway. There's no guarantee that come Saturday we won't regress to the usual sad bunch of clueless fcukwits we've seen so often this season, especially if Holloway is foolish enough to recall Clemence.

Oh shut your face. I've quite vocally backed Holloway even when the results have been bad, and I'll continue to even if we barely avoid going down.

You're right though, the most important thing about a manager is that they can put a run together. Whats Rob Kelly doing these days again?

[wirralsimon]

You forgot to include Billy Davies into that at Derby.

If what you are telling me is any good manager should be able to get a club pushing for the play-offs in their first half season we will have to agree to disagree. We all know it can be done, but I still maintain that it is not reasonable to say someone is a bad manager if they don't do it.

QPR were in turmoil off the pitch when Ollie was there, as indeed we have been at time this season. Ollies record at Plymouth was decent and is probably more relevant to what he can do going forward.

I don't think anyone is arguing that the results we have had since Ollie arrived have been good. If they don't get better then Ollie will have to go. Despite that I said a while ago I was prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt until Christmas, and my opinion has not changed.

Simon

[Sniffer-Clarke]

If what you are telling me is any good manager should be able to get a club pushing for the play-offs in their first half season we will have to agree to disagree. We all know it can be done, but I still maintain that it is not reasonable to say someone is a bad manager if they don't do it.

QPR were in turmoil off the pitch when Ollie was there, as indeed we have been at time this season. Ollies record at Plymouth was decent and is probably more relevant to what he can do going forward.

I don't think anyone is arguing that the results we have had since Ollie arrived have been good. If they don't get better then Ollie will have to go. Despite that I said a while ago I was prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt until Christmas, and my opinion has not changed.

Simon

I must be missing something with you,1st you say when ollie came to city we were in turmoil, then you say when he was at QPR they were in turmoil. Then when he was at plymouth he did ok yes reasonably well highest place 7th. Then the chairman said he caused alot of unrest within the club with there top players who were all sold. Since he came to city results have been at best poor performances have been erratic, substitutions have been head scratchers, players being played out of positions ie Fryatt when hes got a game,Hume,Hayles,From the Norwich game up to the WBA game we had not scored a goal which was 5? matches. Hes slagged the fans off the carl cort affair hes called a fan a pillock .

So i would like you to explain to me why you think he is a good manager with a good record at city.

[Sniffer-Clarke]

I love Ian Holloway.

He inherited a club low on morale and somewhat shellshocked. He inherited an enormous squad that was almost unmanageable and with no sense of team spirit. He inherited a crowd that all too easily got on its players' backs. He inherited a team playing anti-football under Megson.

Whether or not the results have reflected it, it's easy to see that he's solving these problems. I don't think we'll get a manager better than Ollie to remedy the mental side of the game, and thats what we've needed the whole time. Unfortunately this is the side of management that takes longest, but the players DO look more motivated and willing to play for each other. We do look more like turning around bad results when we go a goal down. It might be a case that we have to learn from mistakes all over again as a team, despite experienced individuals, but we're doing it, slowly but surely. I don't see us ever losing a game again when the opposition go a man down.

I'm confident that with what we've got now, a decent finish to this season and a full pre-season build-up will have us ready for a much better campaign next season.

Who loves you baby.

[wirralsimon]

I must be missing something with you,1st you say when ollie came to city we were in turmoil, then you say when he was at QPR they were in turmoil. Then when he was at plymouth he did ok yes reasonably well highest place 7th. Then the chairman said he caused alot of unrest within the club with there top players who were all sold. Since he came to city results have been at best poor performances have been erratic, substitutions have been head scratchers, players being played out of positions ie Fryatt when hes got a game,Hume,Hayles,From the Norwich game up to the WBA game we had not scored a goal which was 5? matches. Hes slagged the fans off the carl cort affair hes called a fan a pillock .

So i would like you to explain to me why you think he is a good manager with a good record at city.

I don't think you have been reading what I have been writing. I think Ollies record before us is OK. There was turmoil at QPR over money, ownership. loony board members and all kinds of stuff whe Ollie was there so I don't think the job he did was too bad given the challenges, or is it your veiw that QPR were a stable well-run club off the pitch while he was there?

Getting a small club like Plymouth to the fringes of the play-offs is an achievement. I still maintain you have unreasonable expectations if you think that it was only 'OK'.

I said as recently as my last post that the results since he came to Leicister are not good enough, I just have different view from you about how long it takes to turn around a failing football club, and I belive that the Leicester City Ollie inherited was a failing football club.

Simon