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Ollie has to stay, if only because we can't change yet again.

As for people suggesting Dowie, excuse me, but he's the reason that Coventry are down in the scrap with us. It could even be argued that their form has improved since he left!

And for those who suggest we should have tried harder to keep SMegson, have you looked at the Premiership table lately? It would give me great satisfaction to see him out of a job by the end of the season - it would serve him right. Though I don't rate him highly as a manager, his departure, in the manner and timing of it, has played a sizable part in our current position.

Billy Davis is a fair manager at this level, proven. However, he is not a miracle worker. There is not enough time to change the system and to be frank, the system isn't broke, it just needs tweaking.

Back Ollie! :scarf: Back the players! :scarf: Back the team! :scarf: Back LCFC! :scarf:

OR JUST SOD OFF! :angry:

Sod off where ? Can't take our season tickets back now can we ? Do you think we like getting on his back and giving him stick ? We just want the best for Leicester and if that means sacking him and hoping someone can come in and can keep us up. Well i think thats a risk worth taking.

If we stick with him, i beleive we will go down.

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Ollie is a sound manager. He speaks his mind. Once he's had a full pre-season with them, and has got rid of some more waste men then I can see us doing better next season. If we are still in the same position Jan 09 then that will be the time to get rid!

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Ollie is a sound manager. He speaks his mind. Once he's had a full pre-season with them, and has got rid of some more waste men then I can see us doing better next season. If we are still in the same position Jan 09 then that will be the time to get rid!

In which league?

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Sod off where ? Can't take our season tickets back now can we ? Do you think we like getting on his back and giving him stick ? We just want the best for Leicester and if that means sacking him and hoping someone can come in and can keep us up. Well i think thats a risk worth taking.

If we stick with him, i beleive we will go down.

Oh shut up... you clearly haven't got a clue about football!!! How would getting rid of the ONLY person who is motivating our players do us ANY good!?! He is finally getting them to ACTUALLY PLAY.... if you want to get rid of that, then you have to be the WORST Leicester fan EVER as you would basically be saying you WANT us to go down!!!

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Ollie is a sound manager. He speaks his mind. Once he's had a full pre-season with them, and has got rid of some more waste men then I can see us doing better next season. If we are still in the same position Jan 09 then that will be the time to get rid!

Managers shouldn't be sound and on soccer am making little jokes up though. They should care about winning games of football not sitting on MOTD going on about Bristol Fooking Rovers !

He has done well at clubs who expect nothing. He has came here and for the first time he's at a club were staying up every season doesn't count as success and also he has got money ... So he buys Barry Hayles :rolleyes: Spends 1.5 on a striker past his best and 2 wingers who can't even get on the bench.

Leicester are out his league.

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In which league?

Championship. We're not going down. Sheffield Weds are. Even if we go down i want him to stay. If you think we're going down and 'all set for league 1' then don't bother going to any more games. You'll only breed negativty around the place, we need believers and supporters who want us to do well.

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Worked last season though ...

That was the one and only change that season... did you actually ready my argument? :rolleyes:

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Worked last season though ...

Lets face it, getting rid of Rob Kelly seriously wasn't a big loss... he's not manager quality and we replaced him with a decent manager... this time round, if we did the same, I can't see us replacing Ollie with a better manager at all.

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I love Leicester fans! :giggle: We are great! In times of struggle we turn on each other like squabbling frenchmen. Is this forum full of cov fans? You act like it.

Support your team, back your manager, stand together, to give the side the best possible chance of wining matches not just in a relegation scrap but every game.

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Lets face it, getting rid of Rob Kelly seriously wasn't a big loss... he's not manager quality and we replaced him with a decent manager... this time round, if we did the same, I can't see us replacing Ollie with a better manager at all.

BILLY DAVIES IS A BETTER MANAGER THEN IAN HOLLOWAY AND THATS A FACT.

If you don't agree then please bring your facts to the table.

I love Leicester fans! :giggle: We are great! In times of struggle we turn on each other like squabbling frenchmen. Is this forum full of cov fans? You act like it.

Support your team, back your manager, stand together, to give the side the best possible chance of wining matches not just in a relegation scrap but every game.

We the fans don't pick the team or play the game. We just spend our money on watching it.

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BILLY DAVIES IS A BETTER MANAGER THEN IAN HOLLOWAY AND THATS A FACT.

If you don't agree then please bring your facts to the table.

No its not its supposition, opinion, not fact :rolleyes:

BILLY DAVIES IS A BETTER MANAGER THEN IAN HOLLOWAY AND THATS A FACT.

If you don't agree then please bring your facts to the table.

We the fans don't pick the team or play the game. We just spend our money on watching it.

neither do Liverpool fans but they usually win!

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I'd also like to say that our fight against relegation this year was on the cards WELL before Ollie ever came to this club... so for me, although the league table doesn't read well for us at the moment, Ollie is not the one to blame for that.

Like I said, 6 wins, 6 draws and 11 defeats... now take that and compare it to the other teams in the league from exactly the same point as when Ollie took over and I'll bet you find that we aren't in the position we find ourselves in currently...

Yes, its only 24 points and x2 is 48 which would see us relegated but you have to take into consideration that for much of that time, like I said, he was waiting for the transfer window to open and also then had to get the team to gel and many MANY things had to be organised, which takes time... something Ollie hasn't had.

So what your saying is that relegation was on the cards in November

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BILLY DAVIES IS A BETTER MANAGER THEN IAN HOLLOWAY AND THATS A FACT.

If you don't agree then please bring your facts to the table.

We the fans don't pick the team or play the game. We just spend our money on watching it.

How?!! If he was so damn good, he wouldn't have failed SO MISERABLY at Derby in the Premiership and would be in a job right now!!!

Ollie is realistic and knows what needs to be done to sort everything out. Davies thought that Derby could stay up with the players they had at the start of the season... what a muppet!!!

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So what your saying is that relegation was on the cards in November

No... what I am saying is that a season of struggling near the bottom of the table was. :rolleyes:

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Of course I'll support him while he's still here. It's pretty idiotic to turn against the manager when a club is in our circumstances.

But I won't be licking his arse every step of the way, he still has everything to prove as far as I'm concerned. And I now find it incredibly annoying when I see his little face popping up over my TV screen again and again.

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How?!! If he was so damn good, he wouldn't have failed SO MISERABLY at Derby in the Premiership and would be in a job right now!!!

Ollie is realistic and knows what needs to be done to sort everything out. Davies thought that Derby could stay up with the players they had at the start of the season... what a muppet!!!

Davies has got a team promoted to the Premiership though, Has Sir Oliie ? How many playoffs finals in the championship has Ollie got too ? Oh yeah none and you can't even say Davies was at big clubs because when he joined Preston they where right near the bottom and same with Derby but how he still got both of them teams into the playoffs every year.

He tried to buy players for Derby but found it hard because not alot of players wanted to go there. Paul Jewell has brought in players but they haven't won yet ... Does that make him a muppet ?

Davies knows how to get a team playing in this league and how not to lose.

Ollie isn't realistic the guys makes jokes so people like you laugh and love him and when we lose he will swear to make out its not his fault and put the blame on the ref or the team He picked.

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I'm waiting for a Plymouth Fan to start a Topic "Ollie's Back!"

Now that would be worth reading icon6.gif

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Davies has got a team promoted to the Premiership though, Has Sir Oliie ? How many playoffs finals in the championship has Ollie got too ? Oh yeah none and you can't even say Davies was at big clubs because when he joined Preston they where right near the bottom and same with Derby but how he still got both of them teams into the playoffs every year.

He tried to buy players for Derby but found it hard because not alot of players wanted to go there. Paul Jewell has brought in players but they haven't won yet ... Does that make him a muppet ?

Davies knows how to get a team playing in this league and how not to lose.

Ollie isn't realistic the guys makes jokes so people like you laugh and love him and when we lose he will swear to make out its not his fault and put the blame on the ref or the team He picked.

Jewell came in, similarly to Ollie here, at Derby... has a crap bunch of players, has to completely re-organise things and hasn't been able to get the results as a cause of this.

Ollie obviously is in a better situation than Jewell as Derby are down, but I think that given time he will get us into a play-off pushing team!

He was doing a great job at Plymouth before he came here and could well have got them to the play-off but he chose to come here and manage us...

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Jewell came in, similarly to Ollie here, at Derby... has a crap bunch of players, has to completely re-organise things and hasn't been able to get the results as a cause of this.

Ollie obviously is in a better situation than Jewell as Derby are down, but I think that given time he will get us into a play-off pushing team!

He was doing a great job at Plymouth before he came here and could well have got them to the play-off but he chose to come here and manage us...

you don't think that his wages doubling and the fact that if he cocks up he gets a huge wedge, made for life and can play at the media had something to do with it?

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I'm sorry, but I'm sick of this Ollie bashing... it is pointless.

When Ollie came in, I was really pleased as I can see him being a GREAT manager for Leicester in the future after he has enough time to sort everything out. I can't understand why everyone thought that he would come in and be able to change everything with the click of a finger as it just doesn't work like that.

For one, he came in during the middle of the season and really had no time to get a team together... he knows it as well as we do that there is a lot of dross here that needs to be shipped out and he is doing that, but during the middle of a season when you need to focus on the games as well as the players, it becomes very difficult to do both completely to your satisfaction as it's results that he will be judged on. Therefore, he has basically had to make do with the players he's got whilst adding to that every now and then, as he has. As a consequence, the results haven't exactly gone to plan as some of the players we have just aren't good enough and it's more down to them, I would imagine, than Ollie's failures. I don't think our results under him have been that bad... by no means am I saying we've always been good or even adequate but we've shown some good signs and it's certainly no worse than in the first half of the season. Throw statistics at me all you like but when you come in and have to radically change the team as he has had to do, I think he's doing a decent job... 6 wins, 6 draws and 11 defeats isn't too bad considering the crap he has had to deal with in just half a season.

Secondly, a lot of you have been bemoaning his tactics... I can't really see what's so wrong with them. He is looking to get the ball down the wings and get crosses in which is what we have been crying out for for some time now. Yes, it's not quite working yet, but we have seen massive improvements in the performances recently compared to those around the time when Ollie came in and the basic nucleus is there for us to build on. Players need to improve but I think he will, in time, be able to get the best out of them. Stearman is a clear example of a player that has really improved under Ollie's leadership and that should, hopefully, be just one of a lot of players that will get better with time.

Thirdly, some of you don't like the way he blames refs and other things when we lose or don't quite get the result we wanted... simple fact of the matter is, is that he is right most of the time. We have had some SHOCKING decisions made against us since Ollie took over and that we HAVE been playing on a very poor pitch which doesn't help us when we try to play down the wings and with the ball on the ground... that said, its not only that that he focusses on. A lot of the time, HE WILL say that the players just weren't good enough and things need to change. What I think is positive is that he can see the improvements, as can I from when he took over, and he is looking to deal with the things that we just aren't good enough at doing at the moment... one, I'm sure, will be our lack of goals and it's not for want of chances! Ollie can't put them in for them!!!

I think that everyone expected far too much from him when he came in and I really don't think that any other manager would have done a better job than him with the players we have. He has a FANTASTIC attitude and is really determined to get this club back up to the heights we once occupied but it will require more than half a season to achieve that... and more support than he is getting at the moment!

Also, I would just like to point out this. IF Ollie is sacked, the players will just feel completely deflated and it will lead to an inevitable relegation... now, many of you have been saying that Iain Dowie or Billy Davies might come in but can you really see them coming to Leicester if we are to be playing in League 1 next year? Then we'll just end up appointing someone who is completely inadequate for the job and we'll be stuck in League 1 for the next few years as all our best players jump ship to a bigger and better club! Even if we brought someone in quickly to save us, the tactics would have to be completely re-thought out and the players would need to get used to it all over again... that again, wouldn't help us at all and would probably lead to relegation.

All in all, although there are things that could be better, Ollie has done a decent job with us and given a fresh start next year, hopefully in the Championship, we will truly see what he is capable of getting this team, and hopefully some new players to replace the shit here, to do. Sacking him now would NOT be a good decision for many many reasons, most of all because of the fact that he is actually getting improvements in many different areas. All we need to do now is bring them together to give good performances week in week out which I think we can do.

I know MANY of you will disagree with me and will make comments not having read this post fully and its those fans who frustrate me most as they seem to expect instant success when it just clearly isn't going to happen... and YES, half a season is still early on in his reign considering half of that was without ANY significant signings as he had to wait for the transfer window to open... since then its been 4 wins, 2 draws and 7 defeats... that, for me, still isn't bad considering the team and how low the morale was... he's doing a good job of getting the team back into a good frame of mind and all I can hope for is that we push on from here to safety and a good season next year WITH Ollie. Remember... Alex Ferguson was almost sacked at Man Utd before becoming one of the best managers ever.

Y :unsure:

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So according to you we are the unluckiest team thats ever kicked a football?

I would say good teams make there own luck.

An average of 1 point per game over 22 games is not down to misfortune is it.

Holloway has spent MILLIONS, had 22 GAMES to improve us, we lay in 21st place, 2 points above a team in the relegation zone, who also have 2 games in hand on us, and as stated we manage an appalling 1 point per game!

That in itself is damning evidence that we should ditch Holloway right away.

But the real pisser is that you are fully prepared to see this team fail like its never failed before and get relegated to Div 1, then keep a manager who has got us relegated 3rd level of English football for the first time in our 104 year history?

I cannot take your post seriously. :nono:

Read the post before you criticise them.

Not once did I say we were the unluckiest team, but I'm sure I said we've had a bit of bad luck.

Holloway has not spent millions, and unless my A-Level in maths is deceiving me, £250k for Howard and £150K for Hayles and £250k for Oakley is less than a million.

I'm not fully prepared to see us go down, and I really felt like crying tonight, but sacking Ollie will not do anything but confirm our relegation. Stick with him, and we've got a chance. Sack him, and we're doomed. Fact.

Oh, and I think you'll find we've been a club for 124 years.

Try taking this post seriously.

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