Back Ollie!

[MikeyT]

Surely its too late now to get another manager to get these players to win matches.

Other have failed so why should a new manager do any better with so little time.

wouldnt it have an adverse effect on the players if we appointed another new manager?

Im not agreeing or disagreeing with you.just asking.

I personally am at the point where i couldnt care less who the Boss is!!!

Good post!

Totally agree with that!

Nothing more to add!

[Dr The Singh]

Points!! aren't coming under Holloway so why back him...........???????????

If you can guarentee points with any other manager in charge then I would gladly get rid of Holloway, i'm not too fussed!! This season has proved that management changes have had little effect unfortunately, will the likes of Davies or Dowie have the desired effect, god knows!!

[Raj]

Only one man can do the job.

Jose Morinho.

Get him in Milan.

He is your man.

Either him or Steve McClaren.

[davieG]

Surely its too late now to get another manager to get these players to win matches.

Other have failed so why should a new manager do any better with so little time.

wouldnt it have an adverse effect on the players if we appointed another new manager?

Im not agreeing or disagreeing with you.just asking.

I personally am at the point where i couldnt care less who the Boss is!!!

At the risk of being called a pillock by Filbofox it can work and has been know to work but it's a massive risk. You'd be hoping for the 'new manager syndrome' effect to work as with Worthington last season although it only lasted two games and wasn't ultimately needed. Trouble is this club is suffering from shell shock and another change is probably more likely to have a negative effect.

I certainly don't think now is the time to change but if we don't pick up a win soon then logic may suggest a change; if MM has plans to dump Ollie in the summer anyway and recruit either Davies or Dowie he might feel that to do it earlier he hasn't got too much too lose

[Raj]

At the risk of being called a pillock by Filbofox it can work and has been know to work but it's a massive risk. You'd be hoping for the 'new manager syndrome' effect to work as with Worthington last season although it only lasted two games and wasn't ultimately needed. Trouble is this club is suffering from shell shock and another change is probably more likely to have a negative effect.

I certainly don't think now is the time to change but if we don't pick up a win soon then logic may suggest a change; if MM has plans to dump Ollie in the summer anyway and recruit either Davies or Dowie he might feel that to do it earlier he hasn't got too much too lose

I dont think anyone REALLY knows whats right or wrong anymore.

I personally wouldnt want ANOTHER new manager installed before Summer as i feel it would be counter productive(players not being the New manager players' and all that bullshit)

More should be asked about the players than the manager surely?

Its not Ollie who missed all the glaring chances on sat was it?

Its not Ollie who played SO crap V Preston.

And it wasnt Ollie who beat Norwich 4-0.

Once they walk over that white line its upto them

Seems like we,as fans ,at this time of the year always have to ask the players to 'Stand up and be counted"

Its that time of years AGAIN!!!

STAND UP AND BE COUNTED YOU FCUKING BASTARDS!!!!!

[Kent Fox]

I dont think anyone REALLY knows whats right or wrong anymore.

I personally wouldnt want ANOTHER new manager installed before Summer as i feel it would be counter productive(players not being the New manager players' and all that bullshit)

More should be asked about the players than the manager surely?

Its not Ollie who missed all the glaring chances on sat was it?

Its not Ollie who played SO crap V Preston.

And it wasnt Ollie who beat Norwich 4-0.

Once they walk over that white line its upto them

Seems like we,as fans ,at this time of the year always have to ask the players to 'Stand up and be counted"

Its that time of years AGAIN!!!

STAND UP AND BE COUNTED YOU FCUKING BASTARDS!!!!!

Raj, I applaud the voice of reason and common sense

After a short sabbatical (due to having to get a job) I popped my head in to see what had been happening in FoxesTalk land.

And find it's the same old shite!!

Yeah, let's sack the manager and we can get Davies or Dowie, I read. Mostly from people who shuddered at the thought of Davies and Dowie not so long ago. Dowie, FFS!! I'd take Ollie anyday over that useless, boring tosser!

OK, so we are in the doggy-poo end of the league - it's hardly the first time is it? And we kept managers worse than Ollie is supposed to be.

I can see I haven't missed much at all. Apart from the boring negativity crap spouted by too many. Passion is one thing - constant moaning and slagging is another. I am passionate about my club but slating the manager ain't gonna solve it.

Raj is right - it's the players who need to earn their place and their right to play for this club - our club. I hope MM backs Ollie all the way, whatever the outcome.

Stop fcuking moaning and show some support! Make some noise at games. I went a few weeks back and it's like a morgue half the time. fans at Chatham Town and Maidstone United make more of an atmosphere. That ain't right.

Ian Holloway's Blue & White Army.

That's it - rant over. I'm outta this miserable place

[davieG]

I dont think anyone REALLY knows whats right or wrong anymore.

I personally wouldnt want ANOTHER new manager installed before Summer as i feel it would be counter productive(players not being the New manager players' and all that bullshit)

More should be asked about the players than the manager surely?

Its not Ollie who missed all the glaring chances on sat was it?

Its not Ollie who played SO crap V Preston.

And it wasnt Ollie who beat Norwich 4-0.

Once they walk over that white line its upto them

Seems like we,as fans ,at this time of the year always have to ask the players to 'Stand up and be counted"

Its that time of years AGAIN!!!

STAND UP AND BE COUNTED YOU FCUKING BASTARDS!!!!!

Problem is you can't easily get rid of under performing players

You have to question why are they under performing for LCFC/Ollie when we know that many have performed for other clubs/managers

The players were clearly crap against Preston & Plymouth and...... But why is that so? why the inconsistency affecting ALL players, is that the players or is it the manager's influence?

The white line, well not if Ollie's got his team selection / instructions wrong

Either managers have an impact on the players, the way the game is played or they don't, if they do then they are equally culpable.

I don't think the players have escaped unscathed on here which is where Ollie's getting his criticism, yet the players have been booed off many times, I've yet to here any anti Ollie chants/booing at games.

So I think it's fair to say in the cold light of day that Ollie is being backed by the overwhelming majority of fans where it really matters at the games.

[Raj]

Problem is you can't easily get rid of under performing players

You have to question why are they under performing for LCFC/Ollie when we know that many have performed for other clubs/managers

The players were clearly crap against Preston & Plymouth and...... But why is that so? why the inconsistency affecting ALL players, is that the players or is it the manager's influence?

The white line, well not if Ollie's got his team selection / instructions wrong

Either managers have an impact on the players, the way the game is played or they don't, if they do then they are equally culpable.

I don't think the players have escaped unscathed on here which is where Ollie's getting his criticism, yet the players have been booed off many times, I've yet to here any anti Ollie chants/booing at games.

So I think it's fair to say in the cold light of day that Ollie is being backed by the overwhelming majority of fans where it really matters at the games.

In a nutshell.

WHY?

P.S Hello Kenty!!!!

[davieG]

In a nutshell.

WHY?

P.S Hello Kenty!!!!

Not to forget the Ollie bit

[The People's Hero]

I gave some kid a kicking down a back ollie last week.

[Raj]

Not to forget the Ollie bit

After one of our misses on Sat a 'lad; walked out of L1 (with about 20 mis left!) and said

"fcuk off ollie you cvnt!"

People looked at him with pure hatred as if to say YOU are the twat.

And that was in L1 where maybe more than most people would be first on the managers back.

So he still has the backing of the majority....but i dont know how long that willl continue.

Okay then DavieG...what would YOU do?

Sack him or keep him?

[morris1234]

I'm sorry, but I'm sick of this Ollie bashing... it is pointless.

When Ollie came in, I was really pleased as I can see him being a GREAT manager for Leicester in the future after he has enough time to sort everything out. I can't understand why everyone thought that he would come in and be able to change everything with the click of a finger as it just doesn't work like that.

For one, he came in during the middle of the season and really had no time to get a team together... he knows it as well as we do that there is a lot of dross here that needs to be shipped out and he is doing that, but during the middle of a season when you need to focus on the games as well as the players, it becomes very difficult to do both completely to your satisfaction as it's results that he will be judged on. Therefore, he has basically had to make do with the players he's got whilst adding to that every now and then, as he has. As a consequence, the results haven't exactly gone to plan as some of the players we have just aren't good enough and it's more down to them, I would imagine, than Ollie's failures. I don't think our results under him have been that bad... by no means am I saying we've always been good or even adequate but we've shown some good signs and it's certainly no worse than in the first half of the season. Throw statistics at me all you like but when you come in and have to radically change the team as he has had to do, I think he's doing a decent job... 6 wins, 6 draws and 11 defeats isn't too bad considering the crap he has had to deal with in just half a season.

Secondly, a lot of you have been bemoaning his tactics... I can't really see what's so wrong with them. He is looking to get the ball down the wings and get crosses in which is what we have been crying out for for some time now. Yes, it's not quite working yet, but we have seen massive improvements in the performances recently compared to those around the time when Ollie came in and the basic nucleus is there for us to build on. Players need to improve but I think he will, in time, be able to get the best out of them. Stearman is a clear example of a player that has really improved under Ollie's leadership and that should, hopefully, be just one of a lot of players that will get better with time.

Thirdly, some of you don't like the way he blames refs and other things when we lose or don't quite get the result we wanted... simple fact of the matter is, is that he is right most of the time. We have had some SHOCKING decisions made against us since Ollie took over and that we HAVE been playing on a very poor pitch which doesn't help us when we try to play down the wings and with the ball on the ground... that said, its not only that that he focusses on. A lot of the time, HE WILL say that the players just weren't good enough and things need to change. What I think is positive is that he can see the improvements, as can I from when he took over, and he is looking to deal with the things that we just aren't good enough at doing at the moment... one, I'm sure, will be our lack of goals and it's not for want of chances! Ollie can't put them in for them!!!

I think that everyone expected far too much from him when he came in and I really don't think that any other manager would have done a better job than him with the players we have. He has a FANTASTIC attitude and is really determined to get this club back up to the heights we once occupied but it will require more than half a season to achieve that... and more support than he is getting at the moment!

Also, I would just like to point out this. IF Ollie is sacked, the players will just feel completely deflated and it will lead to an inevitable relegation... now, many of you have been saying that Iain Dowie or Billy Davies might come in but can you really see them coming to Leicester if we are to be playing in League 1 next year? Then we'll just end up appointing someone who is completely inadequate for the job and we'll be stuck in League 1 for the next few years as all our best players jump ship to a bigger and better club! Even if we brought someone in quickly to save us, the tactics would have to be completely re-thought out and the players would need to get used to it all over again... that again, wouldn't help us at all and would probably lead to relegation.

All in all, although there are things that could be better, Ollie has done a decent job with us and given a fresh start next year, hopefully in the Championship, we will truly see what he is capable of getting this team, and hopefully some new players to replace the shit here, to do. Sacking him now would NOT be a good decision for many many reasons, most of all because of the fact that he is actually getting improvements in many different areas. All we need to do now is bring them together to give good performances week in week out which I think we can do.

I know MANY of you will disagree with me and will make comments not having read this post fully and its those fans who frustrate me most as they seem to expect instant success when it just clearly isn't going to happen... and YES, half a season is still early on in his reign considering half of that was without ANY significant signings as he had to wait for the transfer window to open... since then its been 4 wins, 2 draws and 7 defeats... that, for me, still isn't bad considering the team and how low the morale was... he's doing a good job of getting the team back into a good frame of mind and all I can hope for is that we push on from here to safety and a good season next year WITH Ollie. Remember... Alex Ferguson was almost sacked at Man Utd before becoming one of the best managers ever.

well done sir, well done, great post, there are many ollie bashers out there but in my eyes hes a fantastic manager ok the league table is not nice reading but im only ever going to judge a manager after a whole season at the helm of the club and even then it isnt fair to really judge them because of wahtever reason. ollie will come through for this club and for those of you that think all he has is his little catchphrases then your wrong would you rather have the usual dribble of 'lets get back in training and work hard' - well shouldnt you have been doing this in the first place!

COMMON OLLIE AND COMMON CITEH LETS WIN TONIGHT!

[davieG]

After one of our misses on Sat a 'lad; walked out of L1 (with about 20 mis left!) and said

"fcuk off ollie you cvnt!"

People looked at him with pure hatred as if to say YOU are the twat.

And that was in L1 where maybe more than most people would be first on the managers back.

So he still has the backing of the majority....but i dont know how long that willl continue.

Okay then DavieG...what would YOU do?

Sack him or keep him?

That's at the extreme though, the thing is the players are not performing consistentlyfor LCFC or Ollie or themselves in fact. Ollie has to take some of the blame.

From my previous post:

I certainly don't think now is the time to change but if we don't pick up a win soon then logic may suggest a change; if MM has plans to dump Ollie in the summer anyway and recruit either Davies or Dowie he might feel that to do it earlier he hasn't got too much too lose

As I said if Ollie's planning on recruiting either Davies or Dowie in the summer he might think let's do it now rather than wait.

[Dr The Singh]

That's at the extreme though, the thing is the players are not performing consistentlyfor LCFC or Ollie or themselves in fact. Ollie has to take some of the blame.

From my previous post:

As I said if Ollie's planning on recruiting either Davies or Dowie in the summer he might think let's do it now rather than wait.

I agree, if Mandaric hasn't got the faith with Ollie, get rid!!! In the back of my mind I think he may wait untill after the West brom game to make his mind up!!

[Stevosevic]

I agree, if Mandaric hasn't got the faith with Ollie, get rid!!! In the back of my mind I think he may wait untill after the West brom game to make his mind up!!

And pay off a 600k a year, three season contract...Only to do it again when hes bored with the next manager.

[lildave3]

He'd better stay.

I'll be incredibly pissed off if he goes.

[cecchini]

c'mon guys, we've been here before!

remember the lucky escape just as MON took over?

remember the sh1t we gave him?

Ollie can be a good manager, like his honesty and pragmatism.

The team have delivered some fine performances as well as some truly abysmal ones, we just need to find the groove and stay in it - that's what MON was and is good at - consistency, building a team that work well together,

remember the season we got promoted under mickey adams? i think we lost 2 games all season (pompey lost 1) but that was the remnants of the MON team, once MA stamped his personality on it we went downhill.....

I support Oillie and remain convinced we will survive.

[Bellend Sebastian]

I'm not saying for a minute that Holloway is God's gift to football, but despite our precarious position I think there are plenty of reasons to be optimistic about our survival. I would be more concerned if we hadn't won in ten games and were adrift in the bottom three and hadn't a clue where our next points were coming from, but we've had some good results as well as bad ones lately and despite the lack of goals last Saturday's game proves there's plenty of life in us yet.

I'm more confident about survival this year than in previous ones, purely because of what I believe to be the greater quality of the squad this time round. Of course we MIGHT go down...as could any of a number of teams - I just don't see the point of writing us off before it's happened

[termite111]

10 Defeats in 22 games, averaging 1 per game and you think he is the man for us?

.....People like you will only be happy when we are relegated!!

NO ITS PEOPLE LIKE YOU THAT PUTS PRESSURE ON THE BOARD TO SACK THE MANAGER/S WE'VE HAD THAT HAS LEFT US WHERE WE ARE BECAUSE OF ALL THE SHIT PAST MANAGERS BROUGHT IN. 3 FOOKING GAMES WE WON AT HOME LAST YEAR AND WE'VE SUPPASED THAT ALREADY AND NOW IN MY OPINION GET ALOT MORE CONSISTANCY IN OUR GAMES. OLLIES IS THE MAN FOR THE JOB NOT DOWIE NOT ANY BODY ELSE.

OLLIE IS FINALLY SORTIN THE CLUB OUT ON THE WHOLE NOT JUST ON THE PITCH AND FOR THAT I HAVE GREAT RESPECT AND ETHUSIASM FOR THE FUTURE BE IT CHAMPIONSHIP WHICH WE CAN STAY UP OR LEAGUE 1. WHETHER YOU DECIDE TO WATCH THEM IN LEAGUE 1 OR NOT

[accessory]

Despite the millions he's had to spend, both in transfers and paying off some of the deadwood, Holloway's record as a manager at City is no better than Rob Kelly's.

Indeed, in some respects it is worse. At least Kelly managed back-to-back wins from time to time - something Holloway has yet to achieve.

It would be no surprise if Mandaric decides he should suffer the same fate that Kelly did.

Bleating that "it's not his team" will no longer do. Glenn Roeder and Neil Warnock have both been able to turn around underperforming Championship sides this season, so why has Holloway not been able to do likewise?

The conclusion must be that he is not the manager he thought (and we hoped) he would be. Like David Pleat a generation ago, Holloway is using his extensive media skills to hide his like of motivational ones.

He's not the man to take City forward. I suspect Mandaric has long since realised this. It's no longer a question of if he should go, but when.

[FilboFox]

10 Defeats in 22 games, averaging 1 per game and you think he is the man for us?

.....People like you will only be happy when we are relegated!!

Would we have done ANY better with anyone else!?!?!

NO ITS PEOPLE LIKE YOU THAT PUTS PRESSURE ON THE BOARD TO SACK THE MANAGER/S WE'VE HAD THAT HAS LEFT US WHERE WE ARE BECAUSE OF ALL THE SHIT PAST MANAGERS BROUGHT IN. 3 FOOKING GAMES WE WON AT HOME LAST YEAR AND WE'VE SUPPASED THAT ALREADY AND NOW IN MY OPINION GET ALOT MORE CONSISTANCY IN OUR GAMES. OLLIES IS THE MAN FOR THE JOB NOT DOWIE NOT ANY BODY ELSE.

OLLIE IS FINALLY SORTIN THE CLUB OUT ON THE WHOLE NOT JUST ON THE PITCH AND FOR THAT I HAVE GREAT RESPECT AND ETHUSIASM FOR THE FUTURE BE IT CHAMPIONSHIP WHICH WE CAN STAY UP OR LEAGUE 1. WHETHER YOU DECIDE TO WATCH THEM IN LEAGUE 1 OR NOT

Exactly!

[FilboFox]

Your spot on there mate, that guy who says there is nothing wrong with holloways tactics must have trouble with his brain assuming hes got one.

Can anyone on the forum tell me of any other manager thats been at leicester with any worse stats than holloways and the money hes had to spend [ with the exception of p.taylor ]

If the tactics are so bad, why so... what he is trying to do is good and what we need to do, that being, playing down the wings and trying to keep possession and then ball on the ground... you are a moron if you think that they aren't good... what isn't good is the way that the players are trying to play and THAT, not the tactics need to be improved on ASAP although the signs in recent games are positive...

[FilboFox]

Dowie... fab job with Coventry eh? Really the sort of man you want in... to help us escape relegation. Where are Coventry now? Oh... I think they are fighting relegation with us!!!

Davies... great stuff with Derby in the Premiership... had faith in the players he had over summer and still expected them to stay up... the man is deluded! How is he going to help us improve in 9 games enough to stay up...

Really... those who want Ollie gone now SERIOUSLY expect FAR too much from a poor team... they HAVE to realise that with the time and players that Ollie has to deal with, he is still doing a good job... how ANYONE can think that ANY other manager would have done ANY better is ridiculous!!!! GET REAL!

[Trav Le Bleu]

Ollie has to stay, if only because we can't change yet again.

As for people suggesting Dowie, excuse me, but he's the reason that Coventry are down in the scrap with us. It could even be argued that their form has improved since he left!

And for those who suggest we should have tried harder to keep SMegson, have you looked at the Premiership table lately? It would give me great satisfaction to see him out of a job by the end of the season - it would serve him right. Though I don't rate him highly as a manager, his departure, in the manner and timing of it, has played a sizable part in our current position.

Billy Davis is a fair manager at this level, proven. However, he is not a miracle worker. There is not enough time to change the system and to be frank, the system isn't broke, it just needs tweaking.

Back Ollie! Back the players! Back the team! Back LCFC!

OR JUST SOD OFF!

[Kilworthfox]

Back Ollie end of!

Olly will get us out of this, and it is not as if he created this situation is it. we have been like this for 4 years now and he needs time to build a side. He has had 1 month where he can do some deals.

I believe we can only judge after he has had a preseason and a full season to see if he is doing well not a few months with mostly someone else's side.

Blue Army!