Back Ollie!

[FilboFox]

Time for this to make a comeback!

BACK OLLIE!!! WE NEED TO STICK TOGETHER!!!

[renards]

Read the post before you criticise them.

Not once did I say we were the unluckiest team, but I'm sure I said we've had a bit of bad luck.

Holloway has not spent millions, and unless my A-Level in maths is deceiving me, £250k for Howard and £150K for Hayles and £250k for Oakley is less than a million.

I'm not fully prepared to see us go down, and I really felt like crying tonight, but sacking Ollie will not do anything but confirm our relegation. Stick with him, and we've got a chance. Sack him, and we're doomed. Fact.

Oh, and I think you'll find we've been a club for 124 years.

Try taking this post seriously.

Risky knocking people for getting facts wrong and doing it yourself

Think you may be a little out on that, thought Howard was 1.25m?

and Oakley £500 according to Sky think they missed the ,000.take it as .5m

My grade 'C' Cse maths adds that up to over a million

What do you base your 'stick with him and we have a chance' optimism

[newman]

Jewell came in, similarly to Ollie here, at Derby... has a crap bunch of players, has to completely re-organise things and hasn't been able to get the results as a cause of this.

Ollie obviously is in a better situation than Jewell as Derby are down, but I think that given time he will get us into a play-off pushing team!

He was doing a great job at Plymouth before he came here and could well have got them to the play-off but he chose to come here and manage us...

Would he have got them to the play-off?

Through his own management he had assured Norris, Ebanks-Blake and Gosling would be leaving them in January. Presumably though he'd have kept Hayles there (and we've all seen how much help he'd have been) so judging by the additions he's made to our squad what helped you arrive at the opinion that he "could well have got them to the play-off".

Just curious like

[thybluefox]

Am I the only person that thinks we're playing better football since ollie turned up?

[p.po40]

Am I the only person that thinks we're playing better football since ollie turned up?

We are in the results buisness.

OLLIE OUT!!

[thybluefox]

We are in the results buisness.

OLLIE OUT!!

Quiet now.

[smokey]

I'm sorry, but I'm sick of this Ollie bashing... it is pointless.

When Ollie came in, I was really pleased as I can see him being a GREAT manager for Leicester in the future after he has enough time to sort everything out. I can't understand why everyone thought that he would come in and be able to change everything with the click of a finger as it just doesn't work like that.

For one, he came in during the middle of the season and really had no time to get a team together... he knows it as well as we do that there is a lot of dross here that needs to be shipped out and he is doing that, but during the middle of a season when you need to focus on the games as well as the players, it becomes very difficult to do both completely to your satisfaction as it's results that he will be judged on. Therefore, he has basically had to make do with the players he's got whilst adding to that every now and then, as he has. As a consequence, the results haven't exactly gone to plan as some of the players we have just aren't good enough and it's more down to them, I would imagine, than Ollie's failures. I don't think our results under him have been that bad... by no means am I saying we've always been good or even adequate but we've shown some good signs and it's certainly no worse than in the first half of the season. Throw statistics at me all you like but when you come in and have to radically change the team as he has had to do, I think he's doing a decent job... 6 wins, 6 draws and 11 defeats isn't too bad considering the crap he has had to deal with in just half a season.

Secondly, a lot of you have been bemoaning his tactics... I can't really see what's so wrong with them. He is looking to get the ball down the wings and get crosses in which is what we have been crying out for for some time now. Yes, it's not quite working yet, but we have seen massive improvements in the performances recently compared to those around the time when Ollie came in and the basic nucleus is there for us to build on. Players need to improve but I think he will, in time, be able to get the best out of them. Stearman is a clear example of a player that has really improved under Ollie's leadership and that should, hopefully, be just one of a lot of players that will get better with time.

Thirdly, some of you don't like the way he blames refs and other things when we lose or don't quite get the result we wanted... simple fact of the matter is, is that he is right most of the time. We have had some SHOCKING decisions made against us since Ollie took over and that we HAVE been playing on a very poor pitch which doesn't help us when we try to play down the wings and with the ball on the ground... that said, its not only that that he focusses on. A lot of the time, HE WILL say that the players just weren't good enough and things need to change. What I think is positive is that he can see the improvements, as can I from when he took over, and he is looking to deal with the things that we just aren't good enough at doing at the moment... one, I'm sure, will be our lack of goals and it's not for want of chances! Ollie can't put them in for them!!!

I think that everyone expected far too much from him when he came in and I really don't think that any other manager would have done a better job than him with the players we have. He has a FANTASTIC attitude and is really determined to get this club back up to the heights we once occupied but it will require more than half a season to achieve that... and more support than he is getting at the moment!

Also, I would just like to point out this. IF Ollie is sacked, the players will just feel completely deflated and it will lead to an inevitable relegation... now, many of you have been saying that Iain Dowie or Billy Davies might come in but can you really see them coming to Leicester if we are to be playing in League 1 next year? Then we'll just end up appointing someone who is completely inadequate for the job and we'll be stuck in League 1 for the next few years as all our best players jump ship to a bigger and better club! Even if we brought someone in quickly to save us, the tactics would have to be completely re-thought out and the players would need to get used to it all over again... that again, wouldn't help us at all and would probably lead to relegation.

All in all, although there are things that could be better, Ollie has done a decent job with us and given a fresh start next year, hopefully in the Championship, we will truly see what he is capable of getting this team, and hopefully some new players to replace the shit here, to do. Sacking him now would NOT be a good decision for many many reasons, most of all because of the fact that he is actually getting improvements in many different areas. All we need to do now is bring them together to give good performances week in week out which I think we can do.

I know MANY of you will disagree with me and will make comments not having read this post fully and its those fans who frustrate me most as they seem to expect instant success when it just clearly isn't going to happen... and YES, half a season is still early on in his reign considering half of that was without ANY significant signings as he had to wait for the transfer window to open... since then its been 4 wins, 2 draws and 7 defeats... that, for me, still isn't bad considering the team and how low the morale was... he's doing a good job of getting the team back into a good frame of mind and all I can hope for is that we push on from here to safety and a good season next year WITH Ollie. Remember... Alex Ferguson was almost sacked at Man Utd before becoming one of the best managers ever.

Toatally agree with every point you have made, great post!

Ollie as shipped loads of rubbish out and will get rid of the reamaining rubbish in the summer (Rab,Hammond,Porter etc) and will continue to build by adding 3 or 4 quality players.

I honestly feel if we stay up and MM backs Ollie and lets him get on with it in the summer, we are gonna be a force next year, i really do!!

[C-man]

I honestly feel if we stay up and MM backs Ollie and lets him get on with it in the summer, we are gonna be a force next year, i really do!!

I'd love to share that optimism but after the hugely disappointing season we've had, I can hardly begin to contemplate us being a force, I'd settle for mid-table.

Unless of course you were suggesting us being a League 1 force?

[smokey]

I'd love to share that optimism but after the hugely disappointing season we've had, I can hardly begin to contemplate us being a force, I'd settle for mid-table.

Unless of course you were suggesting us being a League 1 force?

No! a championship force!

I know its been a poor season but all the players coming in and out, managers in and out hasnt helped!

At least now we have a smaller and better squad with some very good experienced players and some great youngsters! Yes i know its hard to be hopefull but on paper our squad with a couple or so of quality players added and more importantly some constistensee in the management/backroom staff etc we could be a decent little side.

Surely as hard as it is, someone else must see a litle bit of what i can see.

And sorry about the shite spelling!!

[Sniffer-Clarke]

Toatally agree with every point you have made, great post!

Ollie as shipped loads of rubbish out and will get rid of the reamaining rubbish in the summer (Rab,Hammond,Porter etc) and will continue to build by adding 3 or 4 quality players.

I honestly feel if we stay up and MM backs Ollie and lets him get on with it in the summer, we are gonna be a force next year, i really do!!

Before todays game holloway had averaged 1 POINT per game the pitch is not great but its the same for both sides.As far has the refs go managers only blame them when they lose FERGUSONS for one.

Can you point out the outstanding permanant signings that holloway has signed.I hope you went to some of the away games recently ie NORWICH.BLACKPOOL.COVENTRY and then you say you cant see nothing wrong with his tactics, what a load of crap.

[Rich Fox]

Comparing Holloway to Ferguson is hardly realistic.

Ferguson achieved near miracles at Aberdeen so there was some previous indication that patience might well pay off with the guy.

Holloway is not a novice manager yet has honestly achieved little.

Fourteen points in nine games with Holloway players plus an inept cup defeat is relegation form in any league and our consistent lack of goals - with more strikers than ever - is alarming.

I've seen points woefully surrendered, far too many goalless 90 minutes and far too many games lost that we should have won, partly because of lousy or highly suspect tactics.

More questionable signings have come along and the blinkered focus on experience was just the policy which got us in trouble last season when we failed to win a game in March and only belatedly, when the damage has perhaps been done, have we finally signed a 19-year-old winger who looks like he at least knows what the job's about.

Yet even that's ironic at this late stage seeing as we already had one who's been tormenting Division One defences almost all season and who's probably a far better marksman than Etuhu anyway.

And you wonder why some of us are less than impressed.

I'll be happy when the personable quip-a-minute Holloway starts:

a) Picking more players capable of scoring/making goals.

b) Gets his team moving backwards and forwards as a single unit instead of one with great gaps.

c) Starts making substitutions which have a specific purpose and improve our performance.

d) Stops his blinkered reliance on experience and increases the teams's collective speed and movement.

e) Starts getting more people attacking the box consistently.

f) Stops making counter productive press comments which are either critical of players or which offer excuses to deflect from our shortcomings.

g) Gets a genuine and talented free kick specialist to replace Shush because fast, accurate, cleverly aimed and varied free-kicks/corners are a vital and relatively certain source of goals which we've voluntarily done ourselves out of.

h) Gets a specialist forwards coach who can get people attacking the near post, making late runs into the box, arriving late at the back post, working better as partners, making cross-over runs, anticipating and expecting low crosses, improve the mindset and balance of players when they shoot and who can organise much more imaginative and threatening dead ball kicks.

I've every reason to believe Holloway is a determined man who's at least capable of learning.

So far that's my main source of comfort together with the fact that we do at least look as if we can play some football on occasions now.

But not often enough to start handing out more than momentary praise. Cos there's much room for improvement yet.

I hope he comes through though. I'd far sooner have him than Dowie or Davies so I hope he learns from his mistakes and starts getting the results which will cement some real progress.

You must be some sad person to write a post like that at 2 am in the morning. What you have written is nonesence you just blather on tying yourself up in knots contradicting yourself.

Football is a simple game made complicated by idiots.

[Thracian]

You must be some sad person to write a post like that at 2 am in the morning. What you have written is nonesence you just blather on tying yourself up in knots contradicting yourself.

Football is a simple game made complicated by idiots.

From what I've been reading he did a fair bit of that.

He might not have got a specialist forwards coach but spent a whole stack of time on shooting and free kicks.

He played two genuine wing-backs basically forward of the back three and got them to genuinely contribute to attack, employed an extra striker behind the front two.

This had the effect of giving us reasonable forward momentum together with our defending higher up the park.

However, it probably wouldn't have been enough until West Brom lost a man.

When N'Gotty moved into a holding midfield role Oakley and Hendrie were able to get forward more and help make the extra man tell. Judging by their involvement in attacking movements and in having shots, Oakley and Hendrie WERE trying to attack the box more as well as Fryatt and the forward strikers.

We effectively had 5.5 potential scorers instead of perhaps four against Southampton which, with the extra man, and finally two men, clearly made a difference.

That difference would have been more pronounced after City got the second goal and WBA were forced to take risks.

It should be the springboard for continued improvement but I'll wait to see what happens for the remainder of the season with 11-a-side before I start joining the Holloway fan club.

To me our initial selection was too cautious and likely to have cost the game as our 1-0 deficit before the dismissal indicated.

You've only got to remember Kisnorbo's sending off at Ipswich to realise what a difference losing a man can make.

Cos while being encouraged by the result - and by the way we took advantage of our good fortune - I'm certainly not blinded by the circumstances of it.

[C-man]

We were already 3-1 up before they went down to 9 men.

[Tevez]

No point backing him 'cos I think Mandaric will get rid at the end of the season. Regardless where we end up in the Championship.

[Thracian]

No point backing him 'cos I think Mandaric will get rid at the end of the season. Regardless where we end up in the Championship.

Not for Dowie I hope.

[Flynny]

Ollies a good manager, and if he keeps us up deserves longer. The results haven't changed a deal, but the standard's certainly gone up, and I really do feel at the moment like we can win every game, which I didn't before. I know thats the nature of the league, but our team is a match for most in league on paper, especially with Hendrie now.

Honestly, I'd try to keep Hendrie next season and hand him the captaincy, make 3-4 astute signings in the summer and give Ollie until christmas. Because what we have is capable of accomplishing a lot if the circumstances are right, and it'll be the first time we get to see a genunely settled team in a few seasons if we do do that.

[FilboFox]

KEEP OLLIE! He knows what he's doing and will be able to sort us out in the end...

Next year WITH Ollie will be better.

[Tevez]

Not for Dowie I hope.

Of course not, but this could well be the case. Mandaric has already admitted to having talks with Dowie earlier in the season, so who knows. IF he goes,I would like to see Roberto Martinez or Dave Penney taking the reigns.

[Sniffer-Clarke]

Ollies a good manager, and if he keeps us up deserves longer. The results haven't changed a deal, but the standard's certainly gone up, and I really do feel at the moment like we can win every game, which I didn't before. I know thats the nature of the league, but our team is a match for most in league on paper, especially with Hendrie now.

Honestly, I'd try to keep Hendrie next season and hand him the captaincy, make 3-4 astute signings in the summer and give Ollie until christmas. Because what we have is capable of accomplishing a lot if the circumstances are right, and it'll be the first time we get to see a genunely settled team in a few seasons if we do do that.

You want to judge Holloway has a GOOD MANAGER if and when he can gets us in the premiership,At the momement his record at city is not that good. And on paper its not any better than ROB KELLYS and he his an assistant now.This man got plymouth to 7 position before joining city.At Qpr he yo-yoed with in the bottom half of the ccc.Hes never managed in the premiership and there is countless of managers like that.MM has not of yet bought a proven manager to the club.

[FilboFox]

You want to judge Holloway has a GOOD MANAGER if and when he can gets us in the premiership,At the momement his record at city is not that good. And on paper its not any better than ROB KELLYS and he his an assistant now.This man got plymouth to 7 position before joining city.At Qpr he yo-yoed with in the bottom half of the ccc.Hes never managed in the premiership and there is countless of managers like that.MM has not of yet bought a proven manager to the club.

1. Ollie came into Leicester when it was in a complete shambles and needed A LOT of work on it.

2. There are no "proven" managers that will want to come here... Ollie is a very good manager for a team in the position we are in.

3. QPR were a shit team before they got an injection of cash and Ollie did well to keep them up really.

4. And as for Plymouth, he was doing a great job there and could have been on his way to a play-off position this year with them had he stayed... but he chose us and that was a BIG choice to make!

[Sniffer-Clarke]

1. Ollie came into Leicester when it was in a complete shambles and needed A LOT of work on it.

2. There are no "proven" managers that will want to come here... Ollie is a very good manager for a team in the position we are in.

3. QPR were a shit team before they got an injection of cash and Ollie did well to keep them up really.

4. And as for Plymouth, he was doing a great job there and could have been on his way to a play-off position this year with them had he stayed... but he chose us and that was a BIG choice to make!

I bet B.Davies would not turn it down, How the f--k do you know he would have got plymouth to the play offs. Yeah you say QPR were a shit team who was the manager then, I cant make my mind up if you are holloways brother or lover.

[Maybes]

I bet B.Davies would not turn it down, How the f--k do you know he would have got plymouth to the play offs. Yeah you say QPR were a shit team who was the manager then, I cant make my mind up if you are holloways brother or lover.

The word could kind of gave it away

[Howard's_Left_Peg]

As far as im concerned im chuffed as a badger at the start of the mating season with our result at hawthorns, she was a really fit bird and we got her in the taxi.

HOWEVER. This guy is a joker, he has to go

explaining our win because he got a CD off his sister by the "drifters" is not a good enough reason.

Get him out before we look like the wurzels.

[STUHILL]

As far as im concerned im chuffed as a badger at the start of the mating season with our result at hawthorns, she was a really fit bird and we got her in the taxi.

HOWEVER. This guy is a joker, he has to go

explaining our win because he got a CD off his sister by the "drifters" is not a good enough reason.

Get him out before we look like the wurzels.

You retard!! It was 'tongue n cheek'

[wirralsimon]

You want to judge Holloway has a GOOD MANAGER if and when he can gets us in the premiership,At the momement his record at city is not that good. And on paper its not any better than ROB KELLYS and he his an assistant now.This man got plymouth to 7 position before joining city.At Qpr he yo-yoed with in the bottom half of the ccc.Hes never managed in the premiership and there is countless of managers like that.MM has not of yet bought a proven manager to the club.

With all due respect, you are talking sh*t.

Ollies record is decent at this level, and as others have said we are a better team now, even if the results are taking a while. Given the state of the club when Ollie took over to judge him by whether or not he gets us to the prem in his first half season in charge is nonsense.

Simon