Momentus Momentum

[sphericalfox]

Hello,

In light of the optimism bus, I have no doubt there is a pessimists train ten times it's capacity lurking along side waiting to pull into 'I Told You So Central' and dropping off the occupants to participate in the Doomsday parade down to the Clock Tower in an anti-clockwise march with golden statues of Nigel Pearson and Matty Fryatt tucked in their underpants.

I have therefore written an article, as I do once in while.

So have a read, have a share, and of course have a thought for those less enthused by our lack of progress and inevitable decline to play in the Conference League.

New Article and that, innit!

COME ON YOU CITEEEEEH!!!!

[savedave]

A good read. Positive and upbeat, yet still realistic and down to earth. I wish more leicester fans shared your sentiments.

[sphericalfox]

A good read. Positive and upbeat, yet still realistic and down to earth. I wish more leicester fans shared your sentiments.

Most appreciated.

[Blanesta]

Very good read, we definitely need more of that thinking on here.

[The Sven Revolution]

Good one mate...hopefully a win today (& other results going our way) will ensure we are not just being positive but inching towards being realistic (promotion contenders)

[Guest]

I view it like this. We have 9 games left to play. that's 27 points. 55+27 = 82. definite, remote chance of automatic. Win your games lads, there's no more to ask.

[sphericalfox]

I still stand by my blog article.

Portsmouth outmuscled us. Were completely on top of us every moment we had the ball. The few chances we did create we were incapable to put the on target. Their keeper wasn't put under any pressure whatsoever.

We cannot compete with physical sides and Sven will have to address this in the close season. With the results today it would have been nice to take advantage but we'll have to make the most of the rest of the games left.

[sphericalfox]

And so the flood of drama queens belch out their 'I told you so's on this forum and others, before the boys leave the ground.

Is half of it actually realistic? No. Some of it is bitterness, and the rest of it is simply embarrassing. I stand by my article once more on reflection of the match.

[Thracian]

And so the flood of drama queens belch out their 'I told you so's on this forum and others, before the boys leave the ground.

Is half of it actually realistic? No. Some of it is bitterness, and the rest of it is simply embarrassing. I stand by my article once more on reflection of the match.

If there was a sprinkle of reality in anything you say I'd admire it but there isn't. Even the new style you talk about and which was, indeed, so encouragingly evident at one time, fast disappeared as soon as we were faced with anyone of any consequence.

Anyone can pass and move against the easy teams. But sooner or later you have to impose your game onto the big stage and we've rarely had the courage or conviction to do that in the League.

Instead the minute we've come up against anyone with a bit of ability we've tried to beg results. It hasn't worked and nor was it ever likely too with our players.

If we wanted to grind our way forward Pearson was the man. But if we want to play our way forward then its no use compromising ourselves because we're faced with some high hurdles. The great Leeds team passed people to despair, Arsenal don't do badly by most standards and Barcelona set the supreme example today. Yet still there are people believe there's a better way.

It's not the fundamental approach that's the problem but the conviction needed to pass the ball fast enough to be effective against anyone.

[Bob Weasel Fox]

Up the City - promtion next season tho me thinks

[acooling08]

Our play lacks momentum.. too slow.. no ability to use pace and get behind defenders.. too static.

[sphericalfox]

If there was a sprinkle of reality in anything you say I'd admire it but there isn't. Even the new style you talk about and which was, indeed, so encouragingly evident at one time, fast disappeared as soon as we were faced with anyone of any consequence.

Anyone can pass and move against the easy teams. But sooner or later you have to impose your game onto the big stage and we've rarely had the courage or conviction to do that in the League.

Instead the minute we've come up against anyone with a bit of ability we've tried to beg results. It hasn't worked and nor was it ever likely too with our players.

If we wanted to grind our way forward Pearson was the man. But if we want to play our way forward then its no use compromising ourselves because we're faced with some high hurdles. The great Leeds team passed people to despair, Arsenal don't do badly by most standards and Barcelona set the supreme example today. Yet still there are people believe there's a better way.

It's not the fundamental approach that's the problem but the conviction needed to pass the ball fast enough to be effective against anyone.

You'll have to be much more specific if you are aiming to insult me I'm afraid Thracian. Which part of the article was pie-in-the-sky?

Once again you've taken one of my articles personally.

I haven't stated anything that's not true, and I am of the belief that there's something to be gained from this season.

You are of the opinion that should anybody other than Sousa have come in we would have acheived the exact same result as we currently have. Sven hasn't worked any miracles at all. He hasn't attracted a higher class of player to our club. He hasn't encouraged 3 of our best players to sign new contracts, before fleeing off to a Premiership outfit. He hasn't managed to get the best results of the league in the new year either. The man is a joke clearly. The team hasn't managed to keep the run going for many different reasons.

And we were unlucky not to get something out of the QPR game only just recently.

Sven is getting all the blame for his lack of motivational skill.

Well let me put it this way. I think when the fans got on Ricardo's back and others, the team lost it's way, and this was when we were on a decent run. The team morale has been shite ever since. And would I blame them. No. I'd be pretty pissed off, and i am surprised that Gallagher and Wellens have signed new contracts considering what they've seen from the fans to their team mates.

We are well capable of passing the ball effectively and well. That was shown easily even under Sousa. We have not had the options to physically strengthen the team under Sven, and i can guarantee this will be amended during the summer.

[Thracian]

You'll have to be much more specific if you are aiming to insult me I'm afraid Thracian. Which part of the article was pie-in-the-sky?

Once again you've taken one of my articles personally.

I haven't stated anything that's not true, and I am of the belief that there's something to be gained from this season.

You are of the opinion that should anybody other than Sousa have come in we would have acheived the exact same result as we currently have. Sven hasn't worked any miracles at all. He hasn't attracted a higher class of player to our club. He hasn't encouraged 3 of our best players to sign new contracts, before fleeing off to a Premiership outfit. He hasn't managed to get the best results of the league in the new year either. The man is a joke clearly. The team hasn't managed to keep the run going for many different reasons.

And we were unlucky not to get something out of the QPR game only just recently.

Sven is getting all the blame for his lack of motivational skill.

Well let me put it this way. I think when the fans got on Ricardo's back and others, the team lost it's way, and this was when we were on a decent run. The team morale has been shite ever since. And would I blame them. No. I'd be pretty pissed off, and i am surprised that Gallagher and Wellens have signed new contracts considering what they've seen from the fans to their team mates.

We are well capable of passing the ball effectively and well. That was shown easily even under Sousa. We have not had the options to physically strengthen the team under Sven, and i can guarantee this will be amended during the summer.

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Re the above:

I've no desire to insult you at all and if you think that reading your article and commenting/disagreeing amounts to insult then you're a very sensitive writer. Your third paragraph above has nothing to do with my views at all and is pure rhetoric. We weren't unlucky at QPR. We played quite well but lost because we wasted our chances and they took one. That has nothing to do with luck assuming there is even any such thing as luck. As for Ricardo, yes the fans saw no reason for Weale to be dropped but that would have long been forgotten if Ricardo showed himself to be better. He's not. What happens in the summer is purely conjecture.

Regarding your article, as you wished me to be specific:-

Paragraph 1) The style you referred to has disappeared or been abandoned with every stern test we've had recently. Including QPR which was, inevitably, a battle but one we fought well.

Paragrph 2) Addressed issues, primarily our defence? We now have a less convincing goalkeeper, no obvious left-back, a centre-back gets dropped for scoring twice/helping us to a clean sheet and Bamba has started to make me nervous even before yesterday's cock-up.

Par 3: Defenders are confident and score goals? Bamba scored early on in his career here but has shown no signs of scoring since and his record seems to confirm he's not naturally a scorer. Vitor scored twice and got dropped. There's a case for Naughton being a threat but I don't see defensive confidenc in either Ricado or Mee (at left-back) and Bamba looks over confident much of the time.

Par 4: You talk of commitment and enthusiasm. But there was none against Cardiff, Norwich or Portsmouth to name just a few recent examples. I wish there was.

Par 5: Owners toned down their promotion target? They've no choice. It's ot impossible but nothing about our recent performances suggests we've any logical chance of winning promotion.

Par 6: Jaw-dropping, astonishing season. Yes it has been dramatic in some ways and I think the owners have backed the club with gusto. But on the field we've flattered to deceive apart from one good run and right-now we're probably worse placed than last season. Pearson's climbed above us after a bad start and with a fraction of our resources and, worst of all, we're looking ordinary, or worse, when we play. No-one denies Sven has contacts and can attract players. But I see little signs of him getting good value. What might happen next year is pure supposition.

Par 7: Nothing to say.

Par 8: Nine Cup finals for Sven to find a formula and get our strikers scoring. He's needed to find the right formula for ages and to get our main strikers scoring. But whatever he's done hasn't looked like working for some perfectly obvious reasons. What makes you think all or even any of the last nine games will be different I don't know. Yes I understand your hoping, the same as the rest of us, but there's no evidence that Sven will accept what's wrong and change it for the better. None at all.

Par 9: To say Sven hasn't put a foot wrong - in his team selection etc - is just blind hero-worship. I could write a book about what he's done wrong. Picking Kirkland and Bednar would make an early start, with our pathetic attitude at Ipswich as a follow up. But that's all it would be - a start. I could write plenty about what he's done right as well so don't somehow try to imagine I'm against the bloke. But, bottom line, football is all about achievement and we look a long way from achieving anything right now.

Par 10: Cheering our team. I do and I well understand others cheering. I even undestand them having blind faith if that's their philosophical outlook. But it's not mine. I'm about evidence and details. I have my views on how to win things in sport - including football - and from most everything I'm seeing these last few weeks we're not ticking nearly enough boxes.

[sphericalfox]

Well Thracian,

I should thank you for addressing each paragraph...bar one. I assume that paragraph you either agreed with or couldn't find a way of twisting it.

I did have a good laugh when reading each paragraph reply - bar the missing one of course.

You've managed to take every single paragraph a twist what i've said out of context to make me look foolish. I'll use paragraph 3 for example.

You stated:

Defenders are confident and score goals? Bamba scored early on in his career here but has shown no signs of scoring since and his record seems to confirm he's not naturally a scorer.

Here's paragraph 3:

The old style of hoofing the ball, or simply clearing the ball in blind panic are over and hopefully we will not see this element in Leicester’s play ever again. We now have a back four who are comfortable and confident, and have the ability to score important goals for us. This wouldn’t have happened should Sven have listened to a contingent of fans who held torches for particular players, and felt they were irreplaceable within the squad.

Everyone complained that we were no threat from corners, and that we were getting no service from the defenders other than hoofball. That was corrected. Now how is that in any way deluded? I have never stated that it is my expectation that our defenders will be providing many more goals, specifically Bamba. Now I would rather a defence with over-confidence than the shambles that we started with any the beginning of the season. Therefore, Sven has brought players in who are comfortable on the ball, and are not afraid of passing their way out of trouble, not hoofing it away when under pressure.

Now I suggest everyone has a good read of my article and compare it what Thracian has so expertly extracted from it, and see how well he has managed to make himself look all so much more superior in opinion in every single regard. You seem to read what you want to and leave the rest.

Paragraph 9:

You said:

To say Sven hasn't put a foot wrong - in his team selection etc - is just blind hero-worship.

The actual sentence read:

Sven hasn’t put a foot wrong too badly in the team he has chosen.

Now this is blind hero worship? You must try harder. At least base your argument on facts not misread or deliberately take items out context in an attempt to paint me in the Sven is a Saint colours. It's a trait that particular individuals seem toi enjoy doing on this forum and others if they feel offended or slighted.

Like I said there's a contingent in the fanbase who have taken the morale and motivation of the team and picked at it ever single home game to the point where if I were a player I wouldn't give a shite either.

[sphericalfox]

Our play lacks momentum.. too slow.. no ability to use pace and get behind defenders.. too static.

Maybe Kamara can give us the pace we need up front.

[funkyrobot]

Sphericalfox you cannot blame the fans for the downturn, they react to the performance they see on the pitch. The positive atmosphere had to come from the right type of performance on the pitch. Whether the team are winning or losing it's all about creating an entertaining atmosphere through commitment to the cause and positive play, this in turn will encourage fans to be vocally supportive.

[sphericalfox]

Sphericalfox you cannot blame the fans for the downturn, they react to the performance they see on the pitch. The positive atmosphere had to come from the right type of performance on the pitch. Whether the team are winning or losing it's all about creating an entertaining atmosphere through commitment to the cause and positive play, this in turn will encourage fans to be vocally supportive.

Are you being serious? Even when we were playing great and were the form team of the League, fans were booing players, calling for players who were on the bench, or not even in the team to those on the pitch. Now this isn't the majority of the fans by any means. But the more vocal minority. Wellens even had a go back at these fans. How can this NOT be detrimental to the morale and motivation of the players. I don't think it's entirely to blame, but on top of loss of form, when the fans are getting on your back for reasons that are completely destructive and in most cases uncalled for, if I were a player I'd be pretty pissed for those being picked on, and if it was myself, not want to put a shift in.

Yes there's an element of cart and horse here. But as stated above, even when we are playing well, there are individuals who are only happy to ruin the atmosphere and demoralise the team.

[evs_the_fox]

The actual sentence read:

Sven hasn’t put a foot wrong too badly in the team he has chosen.

That doesn't even make sense...

[sphericalfox]

That doesn't even make sense...

Let me elaborate. Sven in my opinion has not chosen the right team in every instance, but he has chosen in the majority of games the players to do he job. He made mistakes in bringing Bednar and Kirkland to the club. But on paper they did seem the right choices. It didn't work out. It's obvious was Sven is attempted to do in the squad he put out, it doesn't work every time, but based on the amount of points we have achieved so far under Sven, he has done too badly.

Does that make it more sensible?