FrankieADZ

the only siege mentality most of us can see from Cooper atm, is blaming the officials, like the 2 decisions yesterday would have changed the outcome im not saying we'd been top 10 at all, but with the right person in charge i do think we could be around 15th place, as the players have already shown they are capable enough in spells this season oh and chased and chased yesterday, i fully know and expected us to lose yesterday, but frankly the stats cant cover it up, Arsenal had nearly 40 attempts on goal, mads made the most saves by a keeper in a game since what 2017 only player to come out with credit for me is Mads, should we clap the players when we go down again like 22/23 too?

of course Ipswich are, have you seen whos theyve played the first 5 matches, Liverpool then City, and they played Brighton away the other week too, and Fulham as well, alot harder start imo Personally believe we have a squad as good as say a team like Brentford, Everton, if used correctly so do you believe some of the home performances have been good enough? as frankly that Everton one, we was god awful i did, yeah they was good, tbf Tranmere & Walsall could have easily got more the point im making tho, is the performances werent there, we wasnt good enough, i know its about getting through but us playing shit against a L2 side doesnt give much confidence to the players no does it

tbf he trying to deflect from the awful performance yesterday, come on nearly 40 attempts arsenal had, we got pumped in every respect and 2 decisions wouldnt have changed that im not surprised we are getting dodgy decisions go against us after the PSR stuff tho and championship officials.......well go and have a look at the norwich first goal.....the standard of officials in this country as a whole is frankly shocking and id say its the lowest its ever been

may i ask, do you fully watch the games or just the highlights?

suits his system better? what system, Fatawu did more in his one league start than Ayew has in his what 3/4 for us, Ayew shouldnt be starting certain winnable games, hes nowhere near as good or creative as Fatawu lets be right tho Fulham wont be top 6, but even so, Palace away imo had he not parked the bus at 75min and maybe did that at say 85min i do believe we'd have probably won, everton we was god awful but it should be a game we look to win thing is performances have been anywhere near good enough, might have got points against some of these teams(everton and spurs) but look at it, these teams have been some golden chances against us, both could been 3-0 down at HT and struggle with this squad, are you serious? a good number of that team have premier league experience and not just lower end, and the ones who hadnt have shown they are decent enough for the step up imo, so i do believe yes it could have been a struggle but not as bad as Cooper is making it and come on comparing Cooper to McKenna, McKenna has took ipswich from League 1 to the premier league in 2 and a bit seasons, none of the ippy fans expected to be in the premier league, he has alot of money in the bank with performances etc while Cooper, has none of that, not even performances etc, come on we just the other day got outclassed in every single aspect by Walsall

tbf i can imagine not many of us are looking forward to any of our games with Cooper in charge, if we had someone different in charge im sure that would be different in every respect

thats true, but we havent really seen much from him to say he'll keep us up, tactically hes incredibly poor, management is too even forest fans said he should have got the boot sooner, also we literally last week got outclassed by Walsall of League 2, got outplayed by Everton who should have beat us etc and after yesterday hes trying to deflect about 2 decisions that didnt go our way, right like theyd have changed the outcome, Arsenal had nearly 40 attempts ffs, we got hammered in every respect

well hes had 8 games now(league and cup) i think the one wanting him out before a game had been played jumped the gun so to speak and should always give a manager a bit of a chance, but think its fair to say no after 8 games hes not upto the job, learnt anything being away from the game or during his time at Forest, the real last straw for me was him parking the bus on the 75min at Palace, cant wait for him to start Ayew instead of Fatawu, JJ over Ricardo and Faes and Vesty next week, 3 pilars of the team last season not remotely getting a looking in, even tho the Fatawu and Vesty imo did alright against Spurs but once again another manager playing favourites as well

tbf the criticism has been warranted; as alot of the goals we've let in in the league this season have come down the right flank and at times because of JJ poor positioning think in the everton game he got done 4 times in the first 12 mins while he did well for the goals he scored today, he cant cover the fact hes been pretty poor for the most part of the season, at times i do think he could be better at LB

i totally get that, for me a yo yo club would be like WBA or Norwich a good few years back, forever going between the prem and championship, i get weve done that, but the club was pretty "stable" of sorts until that one god awful season although we look at it a different way it just highlights the total mismanagement of the club from certain high ups, but thats all a different topic on Cooper tho; its plain to see hes not good enough, like hes moaning about a couple of decisions today, yeah like theyd have changed the outcome of the shitshow

well 8/9 yrs in the premier league i wouldnt call that being a yo-yo club would you one of the reasons we went down is because the morons running the club didnt sack Rodgers early enough and its not entitled, and dont give me the rubbish of "we was xxxx back in 1990 or 2008" etc the club has progressed since then, so its like comparing apples to oranges, or surgery in the 1990 to surgery today so you can compared certain aspects but not the whole

does this work for winning the lottery too?

well we did spunk £5mil on Ayew, so we should have something

pretty much spot on for me that i compare it to that as you can see whats coming in terms of the end of the season unless a change is mad soon, where as that season we changed Rodgers far too late, and youd hope theyd have learnt from that

outstanding today, only player for me who truly played well

would give him slack but martinelli scored and assisted wasnt he meant to be marking him

post it in here again..... yeah but we performed well etc......only 1 player truly did

i guess the record breaking start to last season means nothing then poor squad, nah i dont believe that tbf most if not all our players(depending on position of course) get into the matchday squad of 14/15 of the premier league teams

dont forget we was outclassed in every respect against league 2 Walsall

wtf are you watching the same games as us? like really, Cooper parked the bus at Palace from the 75min when they was for the taking, even forest fans admit he wasnt good enough and they kept him too long

3 years after? we was in the premier league for going on 9 years, we showed during that time we was more than capable of staying in the league and doing well for ourselves, theres a different between deluded and being real, seeing whats on the pitch, of course most today expect to lose but we expect them to put in a shift which many will feel not all of them did but i guess cos we was in league 1 in 2008/09 we should still know our place and think below ourselves, i guess we played great against Everton then by world, im pretty sure some people need eye tests

thats kinda of rich when youve just said this what odds have we beaten this season, not getting the lowest XG ever at Arsenal again? but i guess cos we was in league 1 in 2008 we shouldnt want to progress

yeah but we should keep him cos we performed alright

so cos we was in league 1 in 2008/09 etc we should be thankful where we are? and realistic expectations, I at least except a fight in most games and honestly we've not had that. be right i didnt expect anything today, nothing at all like all lcfc fans, I guess you was pleased with our performance against everton last weekend then? the fact he keeps playing JJ even tho most of the goals we've let in have come down his side etc i believe you are one of the hand clapper lot who thought Rodgers was right to give Ward so long in goal the season we went down, its bad when some forest fans admit they kept Cooper too long, its plain to see hes not Premier league standard but maybe we should keep him till 10 games to go like we did with Rodgers even tho it was plain to see after this amount of games(the yr we went down) it was only going one way

didnt he get an assist the first game..... more than Ayew has in the league