JamesWelshFox

There used to be a thread for The Many Faces of Andy King, which was a pure joy, but I think we now have a worthy successor !

Rudkin ok as long as a firm hand at the tiller above him to keep him in line. Top gave him too much rope, and now he needs to cut him loose. If we not going to appoint MON as temp manager then give him Rudkins job because MON is more than capable. Come on Top get the right people around you at the club.

MON's strength was always in his people management. Intelligent, personable, and scary too, everything we need.

Iverson Ricardo - Souttar - Evans - Cags - Kristiansen Madders - Mendy - KDH Nacho - Daka

Alternatively, if Kasper has his badges give him the job.

MON to end of season. Pearson after that. Don't understand the Pearson haters on here, if you give him control of the project he will move it all back in the right direction and we might actually have a fully fit squad for a change. Bristol City have done exactly that and they are moving in the right direction under Pearson. Surely we can offer him more than Bristol City (no disrespect intended to them at all).

Think it is time we cut Top a bit of slack. Football in the UK especially at this level is not paid for by fans, if we had to pay for it heaven knows what tier we'd be in. Top has perhaps not made the right decisions at times this season but the person that hurts financially is Top, not a single one of us. If anything he has run the club too much like a fan. We all wanted to keep out best players rather than sell 1 or 2 a year, because if we had kept them all where might we be, and so Top gave us that, and it damn near paid off, but it didn't and as with any gamble when you lose there is a debt to be paid, but we won't pay it, Top will. This guy loves this club and wants nothing but the best for it. I for one hope he hasn't had enough of us moaning. I hope he has also learned that he cannot run a club like a fan, with his heart, and that he will now see the wisdom of his old man, and run it as a business and be ruthless where he needs to be. That can be lonely because you won't please everyone all of the time, but when it's your money paying for it all you have the right to call the shots. We didn't complain when we held on to our best players that we should be selling them, that we were departing from the model that had served us so well, in our own small way we are just as culpable for what has come to pass. I have loved the success same as any of us, but I love my club more and I'll accept that we have to sell players at times I'd like to keep as long as we can keep a side that will always give anyone a game and on its day might just beat anyone. Time we stopped moaning and stand together. C'mon City

Also, had we kept Kasper, we would probably not have been in this mess. Should have given him a 3 year deal and binned Ward and Iverson No.2

Iverson undoubtedly our No.1, and frankly Ward needs to go, and we bring through another of our promising young keepers as back up now.

At least KDH cares about what happens at this club. I'd make him captain next season and tell him to b^llock anyone who isn't working as hard as him. Iverson, Souttar, KDH not a bad spine to a side, and build round them.

No problems getting a ticket next season.

He's not the first to struggle to follow in his father's footsteps. What he will now get is a chance to show his commitment to the club by sticking with us where ever this ride now ends, and who knows maybe just maybe he will learn his trade in the Championship with us. To be honest it isn't difficult, he just needs to take a look back at how his father ran things and revert to that model. We also need a reality check as fans, we have over achieved in the last 10 years, we may have wealthy owners but they are not Big 7 wealthy. We gave it a tilt for a couple of years, came up short twice and now he have to face the consequences of having departed from the model that got us there in the first place. Time for new dreams, and to make sure we do right by the memory of Vichai. Time to stand together, not point the finger, we all share a little bit of the blame for what has come to pass.

Double relegation could be a real risk. We have out of contract players who despite everything are likely to find Premier League employment as squad players if nothing else, and we also have some that we are going to struggle to keep, Victor, Harvey, Ricardo, Timothy, will be wanted by better teams. There are also a few we need to bin because they are a liability in any division. So we may be needing 10-12 new faces and we won't have enough dough for that sort of scale of rebuild in one summer, plus realistically who is going to want to come ! We will at least finally get salaries back under control, and pay what we can actually afford, dig up the odd gem and sell for a good profit. We need to get back to a model that is far more sustainable financially. After an amazing 10 years this feels like normal service resumed for a 50 year veteran of following the City. Marsch is not the right man. This club has always responded best to having a hard case at the wheel. Hope I'm proven wrong though. C'mon City

Marsch is not the right man to sort out the mess we are in whilst also trying to get out of the Championship. It is going to be a long time before we can even dream of getting back to the Premiership for sure.

Things must change. A player with 2 years left on a contract gets offered a new deal. He signs or he gets sold. We cannot keep spending millions and then letting it walk out the door for free. It is no way to run any business. Sure we would like to keep our best players but if their commitment to the club isn't there then they have to go for the best price we can get, because we cannot afford to carry a player who is losing interest, paying their salary for 2 years and then watch them leave for free, and have to try and replace them spending more millions again. Madness.

Yet another situation not helped by Rogers. Was the plan don't play him people won't look at him then and he'll have to sign a new deal ? No, he's gonna leave for free. Again, the position should have been here's the deal sign or be sold. And it might not be ideal but we then sell for the best price we can get, because for sure it is better than players then walking for free and our getting nothing for them whilst having paid their salaries for 2 years. Terrible way to run any business.

Rogers has ruined Wilf. Wilf is at his best a destructive defensive midfielder, and in his wisdom Rogers decided this was not enough and tried to making something he's not, and right now we are left with the shell of a player whose confidence is down the toilet. What a waste.

Time to bring Nige back in from the cold. Top can be friends with everyone and let Nige fire the bullets. If Nige's boy hadn't been such a muppet, we wouldn't have parted ways that summer. Time we had someone back at the helm to rattle Dyche's cage !!!

Time for us all to move on as a club. Rodgers is gone. Time to pull together, stay up and start again. We gave Champions League qualification a real go for 2 seasons and we have paid the price for falling short, twice. Our owners are wealthy but not Big 7 wealthy and we need to understand this. The model we were operating under, careful purchases and 1/2 big sales a year is what we have to go back to for a bit, rebuild and give it another crack. I don't want success at any cost, I want a club that is sustainable, who will give anybody a tough game and always have a chance on our day of ruffling the feathers of the big clubs. As long as I see a group all pulling together and giving it their all, no recriminations from me. The moment someone stops pulling they have to go. Rodgers lost his mojo when he didn't get the Man Utd job and should have gone at that point. He had his head turned, started thinking he was too big for Leicester, and we should have parted ways at that point. There can be no half way house, you are in or you are out. Same goes for players. As soon as it became clear Youri wasn't going to sign he should have been out the door for the best price we could get. 3 months to negotiate and sign or be sold. We cannot afford to invest in a player for him to leave for free. Same now goes for Madders as much as we will miss him. Cmon City time to save ourselves.

Cannot believe this morning that Brendan is still here !!! May cost us a couple of bob to get rid but will cost us much much more if he takes us down. I would be happy to give MON a shot at keeping us up if he would give it a go, no blame from m if he failed to keep us up at this point, but at least he'd put some fire into this lot and we'd go down working our socks off and with a bit of fight.

Top is undeniably struggling to fill the gap left by his father, who took no nonsense from anyone, but the lad has tried to give us everything, we held on to top players instead of selling one a year, and that has hurt us in terms of sustainability as much as anything, but we all wanted to live the dream, the idea that we could be back in the champions league, and it nearly came off. What he needs to do now is go back to his fathers model and rebuild, and that has to start with sacking Brendan. You are not his friend you are his boss, and sometimes you have to make tough calls but if you want to survive in football then you have to be ruthless. I think there is still time for Top, but he has to start now with the sacking of Brendan.