SecretPro

Trying to play everything through the wingers today really isn't helping, we literally have nobody in the box capable of heading balls.

If you go back through the entirety of this season I have probably been one of the most positive posters on the forum when it comes to our games, performances, tactics and management's. I've constantly battled the naysayers and non-converts to Enzo ball. I think its good sometimes to be critical, especially at points like this when it seems everything is easy. I don't see the point in being complacent. Our games tend to go the same way at this point, so I think talking about personel is a reasonable topic at this juncture of the season - there isn't much else going on. Again, I'm not sure why people can't handle criticism of our players? It's odd. I guarantee if we are getting pasted in the Premier League next season and Kasey is getting games then there will be plenty calling for his head. I'm not doing that, I'm just pointing out he's not good enough. Also, he is starting games periodically, even with our first choices fit...he started on Saturday and wasn't very good. Its a valid topic.

Didn't he make his first team debut in 21/22? Didn't push on, has been given a big opportunity this season and after a good start has now started to look lost? If players aren't kicking on at 22 in the Championship then it's u likely they are going to be kicking on in the Premier League the season after. Criticism is valid no matter what stage of a career a player is at, without criticism you can't improve. All I'm saying is, it's highly unlikely he will feature at all next season so I'd rather focus on the players that will. If he was 18/19 I'd be more inclined to be patient but he's been given a big chance this year to step up and it hasn't happened. He's probably a lovely lad, just not good enough at this level.

None taken. Honestly though, I've been highlighting Kaseys lack of quality for a while now. I was relieved to see him not starting tonight after the Watford games because its a name when I see on the team sheet that either makes me nervous or just feel like it's going to drag the game down a bit. I feel similar when Hamza is in the starting line up. Talking about tonight because A. He was truly dreadful and B. When you're winning games and there isn't much else going on it helps to drill down into the details and start looking towards how we play and with what personal in the premier league. People genuinely really need to stop seeing criticism of players (especially based on a period of time in the team and making appearances) as some sort of insult rather than just an honest conversation which fans should be allowed to have. All this 'he's an academy lad' stuff is nonsense, you are either good enough or not and this tendency to feel the need to defend 'academy lads' at all costs for no reason other than they came though the academy is a bit boring. There's plenty of shit languishing in the academy, being there isn't a free pass I'm afraid.

Then he wasn't playing either Enzos game or his own tonight then, because Enzo was pretty enraged that Kasey consistently ignored his instructions and if what he did end up playing was his own game then well, that wasn't good enough either. Honestly, it's fine not to rate a player, I'm not sure why it gets people's backs up so much.

Think if you read the thread you find most of us are discussing his performances over the season. Nothing wrong with deciding a player isn't good enough, being an academy lad doesn't come into it.

Good summary.

Been involved in 20 matches this season. Don't thinks it's unreasonable to start assessing a 22 year old player after that many appearances in just over half a season. Not sure why being an academy lad should negate criticism or honesty. Weird rule you've made there.

Gave the ball away or made a sloppy mistake twice today in what were clear goal scoring chances. Does the basics well but beyond that I don't think he offers a lot, lacks pace badly too. Would much rather see Yunus in his position. Can't wait till Wilf is back to be honest.

Hmm, not so sure, especially if we keep giving him starts and 90s like we did against Watford and left Mavididi on the bench. He's not going to get game time in the PL, or at least he shouldn't because he genuinely isn't good enough to, so whilst cameos to save legs is fine, or rather have our capable players starting games and getting well and truly drilled on the system and style ready for next season. Same with starting Praet, unless it's clear Akguns time with us is officially over.

Nah, If you read the thread, it's based on weeks of game time. For instance, he was woeful last weekend and played a full 90. Didn't realise we weren't allowed to talk about players?

Exactly this. If we aren't going to play him, give Alves his spot and save my eyes from bleeding watching Kasey or Choudhury try and play as 8s.

He's been dogger since he got back from injury after that little spell when he scored a few. Honestly, I've never seen anybody play in a forward position and offer so little going forward.

I think his level is a top League 1 side. Would be a good move for him in the summer.

Nobody is scapegoat as we clearly don't need a scapegoat. Just discussing his lack of quality. Not sure what the issue is.

Neither.

He was terrible on Saturday.

Swap out Praet for Akgun and leave Kasey at home and we've got out best team.

Loves to offer nothing. Not a good player. Sorry.

Akgun must have shagged Enzos wife. Praet is shit.

Should he 2nd choice, minimum.

Wouldn't bank on it, poor old Yunus didn't get a sniff at the weekend, despite being probably one of the top 6/7 players in the squad.

Poor bloke, probably can't wait for the season to end.

He won't be.

Would much rather Yunus than Praet but nevermind.