Foxy-Lady

He was....and he is the only GK i can remember from Leics in recent times who has played professionally at the top level. Is it just a coincidence that he was never at LCFC academy...?!?

Iversen was signed at 19 years old and already an established Danish Youth international so certainly not a product of our GK development system. Johansson was signed at 19 from Aston Villa and was already a pro keeper so it was Villa's academy who developed him. Odunze was only recently signed and already playing for USA Stolarczyk is the one possible outlier as he was signed as a 16 year old Polish intnl so our Yth GK coaches can reasonably claim some credit for his onward development Adam Smith was signed from Middlesborough as an 18 year old left LCFC 7 years ago so it would be a stretch to for the current GK coaches to claim to have developed him. And Max Bramley is the only local born player you mention who came right through our academy system and was considered a very fine prospect until he reached 18.....and then simply disappeared when he became a pro keeper. As for your point about other GKs coming through our academy system and finding success elsewhere, i cannot find any evidence of any which is why i trawled through the available data. if you wish to correct me then please feel free to do so.....but simply saying there were probably others is not really an evidence based point.

Its obviously not an exact science and you do need to consider that it is MALE births only that would be relevant......but i think you get my point that it seems illogical and against probability that not ONE single goalkeeper has been produced through the LCFC Goalkeeping academy in the last 10 years.....and no questions ever seem to be asked about why?? Obviously being a GK coach at LCFC Academy is not a results based position...

Agree with you 100% on the attitude and work ethic....but this applies to almost every facet and career choice and NOT just goalkeepers from Leicestershire. But are you suggesting that there has not been a single GK in LCFC academy in the last 10 years who didn't have the right attitude and work ethic.....or is it just some of the outfield players from Leics that have showed the right ethic? As for the dearth of "world class english Goalkeepers" in recent years, thats a fair point also......but there is a big difference between our Academy system/coaches NOT producing a world class goalkeeper.....and NOT producing a single goalkeeper capable of playing in the Top3 leagues in english football. Pickford (Sunderland), Henderson, Johnstone (both Man Utd), Ramsdale (Shef Utd) & Pope are all Top Class keepers playing in the PL who have been produced by other clubs academy systems......and there were several other U-25 English GKs playing in the championship last season produced through academy systems....but NONE that have been produced through ours. Don't want to labour a point.....just intrigued why questions arent being asked of the GK coaches at LCFC who have a Zero% success rate in the last 7-10 years...?

You are of course right....but this is also the classic fall back position of coaches in Academy and Youth Football that leads to questions never being asked/answered and their own abilities/success never being challenged. " If the player succeeds, i'll let everyone know what part i played in it so it shows everyone what a good coach I am......if the player fails, its because of him and its got nothing to do with me" Everyone seems to want to take the credit for Barnes, KDH & Thomas......No-one has ever accepted any responsibility for the talented players who failed to develop through our system and reach their potential (eg Leyton Ndukwu etc..). Almost against all laws of probability that there has not been ONE single young goalkeeper born within the Leicestershire area within the last 25 years that could have made a professional goalkeeper with the right level of coaching and development...?!?

That's exactly my point....! We have a history of Top quality GKs from the Leicestershire area.....so why haven't our GK coaches been able to develop a single ONE in the past 10 years from our expensively funded Academy system? On what criteria are these GK coaches measured...?!? (PS Too young for Banks, Just about remember Shilton in a Foxes shirt.....definitely remember Wallington & Chris Kirkland!)

Under the current GK Coaching set-up, i cant actually recall us producing a single keeper that has gone on to develop into a top-class keeper...?!? Correct me if im wrong but last one i recall was Adam Smith about 10 years ago....and he ended up playing in Lg2 Most of the keepers we now have were bought in at +16 years old (Iversen and Young were 19) which makes me wonder WHY have we never been able to actually produce a keeper through our own system? How come we seem able to develop outfield players from the Leicestershire area (Barnes, HKDH, Thomas etc) ......but our academy system is incapable of developing goalkeepers? Is there something about Leicestershire that doesn't breed good goalkeepers......or are the Yth Development GK coaches paid to simply work with the talent that other clubs have developed for us?

Absolutely right....and it is already beginning to look like paying great dividends for the club as we see younger players being exposed and challenged to play to higher levels at a younger age to accelerate their development than they might previously have done under the Beaglehole regime.

Good to hear this...! Ive Said many times on this forum over the past few years that keeping 22/23 year olds in the system who were never going to make it was simply clogging up the pathway for talented younger players who needed game time....which is exactlly what happened at LCFC under Beaglehole. It was a well intended concept by the FA to try to reduce the number of players who were falling out of the system at an early age but in reality, it just served to slow the development of young talent at the expense of keeping old players playing.

So......nothing like Nampalys Mendy then...?!?

So random....Genuinely made me smile....quality!

is he on the bench every week...??

Leyton Ndukwu was without question he most naturally and technically gifted academy footballer i ever saw....and i watched academy football for many years. If you speak with those who coached him and watched him play, they will ALL tell you he was THE stand-out player in his age group....which included the likes of Barnes and Chaudhury. he made football look so effortless even from a very early age to such a degree that even when he was trying....it still looked like he wasn't. And that was always the issue with leyton....you could never figure out how much effort he was putting in because he always made it look effortless. He always seemed to have that rare quality you only ever see in exceptional players.....Time! Like many, i wonder what happened to him and i wonder whether he would have been more successful if he had played in the slower tempo leagues like Spain and Italy where technical ability is viewed more importantly than work-rate for their creative players. In the English professional game, intensity and work rate are NOT optional even for the very best players which is probably why he struggled to make it into the professional game. I also question the responsibility and ability of the Youth coaches who "failed" to develop the areas of his game that needed to be developed. Somehow, they managed to turn gold into lead but its difficult to know whether the responsibility with this failure lies with him or them (or maybe a bit of both?)......but it certainly wasn't due to any lack of natural ability on his part.

Agree with this. Replacing Vardy will not be a like-for-like solution as there is no other player like Vardy. replacing Vardy will probably require a change in style/formation into which some of our existing key players may not actually fit.

well we better hurry up and do something about replacing him then as he's no getting any younger and life without Vardy is clearly not going to be easy...!

Very interesting.....but id love to see them also factor in the current asset values of Academy graduates playing in first team squads.....and also the cost of funding those academies for the past 7 years. be interesting to see if a different picture on profitability emerged rather than just simply basing it on income on sales as clubs at the top of the food chain dont tend to sell their very best academy graduates. As an example, Chelsea currently have Mount, James, Chalobah, Hudson-Odoi, RLC & christensen in their first team squad (+ Tomori & Gilmour on loan) and their combined asset value would probably put them ahead of AS Monaco at the top of the list

I suspect that while ManUre are sill looking for a new manager we wont get rid of BR for purely financial reasons as the potential compensation would outweigh the £20m pay off if we sacked him. We are out of the cups and we are unlikely to finish Top6 so we wont gain much by firing him now....but we would save money if ManUre came in for him. Its only an opinion and i might be massively wrong (I usually am!!) but in this instance, the timing of his departure might have huge financial implications for us......and i cant think of anyone available who we would want to replace him right now either which would present another compensation issue

You may be right....im possibly a bit behind the times on that one.

Just as i thought......but its not Matty Miles, its elliot Percival (Barwell FC). i think Matty Miles had already left the club at this point Also at 4;50, you can see KDH with his hands in his pockets in between Max Bramley and Alex Pascanu...!

Top Picture..... Harvey Barnes left ear in background just above shoulder of blue shirted player on the right! Probably not his most famous or recognisable photo... but definitely him as that's one of his best mates Elliot Percival that hes talking to! Top picture far left Josh Eppiah, currently on loan at OH Leuven. 2 players to his right is Calvin Bassey (currently featuring in Rangers starting X1)

Standard practice now to include a 1 year extension option in the clubs favour if they wish to extend the contract....almost certain this will be the case with Wright and almost certain the club will take it unless they choose to sell at the right price. Exact same situation as Josh Knight....signed the extension and then sold to Posh for £1m

....and the fact that he plays with his shirt tucked in (sometimes!). Reason for this is probably because he was always very small through the age groups so he had to tuck his shirt in as the shirts were always way too big for him and drowned him

Big differences between Choudhury and KDH is that Choudhury is a very one dimensional player who doesn't read the game very well, hence the lunging tackles and always seemingly chasing back from the wrong side of the ball. KDH is similarly athletic but far more adaptable in his style of play, technically much better and reads the game very well....and he's a very humble lad as well so none of this will ever go to his head.

very valid points...! But the fans lack of patience for Klopp was based on him not turning things round fast enough and showing no signs of progress at that time.....which we all know now clearly lacked any judgement or foresight.....unlike the clubs owners.

Nothing emotional about my points are use of language. The point i asked quite clearly that you didnt answer was.......how does Rodgers salary compare to the managers of the managers of the 12 teams that you stated "There aren’t 10 clubs in EUROPE with the.... manager salary that we have.?"