Foxy-Lady

Have they ever released any figures on Sales of these items...?? Curious to know how "successful" these were as dont recall ever seeing any of these beauties in the pubs and clubs of leicester..?!?

you mean "Wonnie Pickerwin...?"

probably because we dont have any money to spend.......everyone is always skint after christmas!

Exactly right. But unfortunately, its part of human psychology Surrounding yourself with good people, listening to them, giving them freedom to challenge and empowering them is a huge part of any success.....but its not what insecure people do The collapse of Lehman Bros bank is a very infamous case study of a meglomaniac leader who surrounded himself with very good people but then instilled a sense of fear in them so they refrained from challenging bad decisions for fear of losing their well paid jobs which ultimately resulted in his disastrous leadership decisions never being challenged....and the spectacular collapse of the bank as a result of those disastrous decisions.

Exactly the same for me!

Those who know him will tell you that Rudkin is a very manipulative and calculating person who has reached the levels he has by throwing a lot of other people under the bus. Personally, i suspect he has always been insecure in his role as DoF as a result of not having the experience or CV to fit the role and it was purely a result of "timing" and his relationship with KV and Top that elevated him to the role of DoF in the first place In business (as in life!), the reality is that Insecure people will rarely surround themselves with good people as they will always perceive that as a threat. Insecure people tend to surround themselves with "yes" people who aren't necessarily capable of giving the best advice, but will always be loyal to them.....hence why so many bad decisions get approved and not properly challenged.

Are you referring to the fans or Rudkin with this comment as we have had 7 managers in the past 7 seasons (excl Smith), and 5 of them have been sacked....so far! For too long, supporters have looked to the managers as the scapegoats and Cooper was definitely the victim of this mentality and yet evidence suggests that changing the manager has rarely improved our situation. Maresca was the only manager who left on his own accord but he succeeded in the Championship and not the PL. The other 5 were sacked by the same people that appointed them and RVN s record so far does not indicate he will be the answer to our problems either (1/9 win ratio having Lost the last 7 consecutive games!) More tellingly, the only constant through this period of failure has been the Owner and senior management who oversee these managerial changes. And yet, none of them have ever been sacked or accepted ownership for these failings. Its always been the manager that gets the blame (scapegoat???)....the same managers that they themselves appoint. We were promised a thorough and in-depth review of all operations after the disaster of the relegation season....and yet again, we heard nothing, nothing changed, no-one was fired and the same people are still in charge of making the decisions that continue to have disastrous consequences. And yet, the club continues to point the finger of blame at under-performing managers????? Consider this... We are one of only 2 clubs in PL history to have ever won the PL title and then been subsequently relegated. Blackburns success was built purely on the back of Jack Walkers £millions and their demise was the result of a disastrous change of ownership when the money dried up. Our success was the complete opposite and was NOT bought in any way.....and we actually made £millions on the back of subsequent player sales. And yet, the money has still dried up...! We have received transfer revenue in excess of £500m in the past 8 seasons yet we have no money left to spend on player recruitment due to some disastrous signings, player wages being significantly over-inflated Vs performance and long-term contracts being awarded to under-performing and ageing players who we are now unable to move on because other clubs wont match those wages. And in the midst of all that, we had 3 players who cost us a combined spend of £100m leaving us on FREE transfers because we allowed them to run down their contracts (Tielmans, Soyuncu, Perez) And yet....we faced a points deduction for breaching PL PSR financial rules which we only narrowly avoided purely on a technicality And Yet.....despite all this EVIDENCE, you still think its the fans that are looking scapegoats? Im not sure its the fans that are looking for a scapegoat. I think the scapegoats have always been the managers and the real issue has gone unresolved for far too long. Quite simply, we have an under-qualified DoF who would probably have never got the job in the first place at any other PL club and will almost certainly never get another job at a similar level at any another PL football club......and who would have been fired long before now if he worked in private industry and overseen the results that he has in the past 7 years.

Thats why he gets paid a lot of money! As a previous poster said, if he had been a director of a PLC overseeing such a calamitous period of performance in terms of results an financially, he would have been long gone by now

My own personal experience of that was absolutely NOT the case...and the Agent in question was one of the TOP agents in UK football!

That would be so brilliant .....if it wasnt so tragically spot-on!

He can kick a football....he can kick it a very long way. But sadly, thats all that Beaglehole and the GK coaches ever coached him to do in the 3 years they were coaching him as thats ALL that Hoofball- Beaglehole ever wanted him to do...!

This is not really relevant to the whole point of Wards competence/incompetence but......i very much doubt he would be keeping that much money in the bank? Why would anyone just have £3-5m sitting in a bank account gaining very little interest? if hes got even an ounce of sense, he will almost certainly have invested it in rental properties etc that will already have secured him a comfortable income for the rest of his life when he retires. Just like harvey Barnes has already done and just like Harveys dad did before him on lower league wages!. make NO mistake, unless Ward has got a serious gambling/cocaine habit that he has been funding or hes an absolute idiot.....Danny Ward will already be financially secure for life as would anyone with £3-5m to invest in rental property! Anyhow, none of that answers the question of how shit he is and whether he increases our chances of staying in the PL with him between the sticks...?

Not quite sure whether to laugh or cry at that...?!? I hear exactly what you're saying and i dont disagree with you at all BUT.....if we're prepared to excuse our defence for being s**t, then why is everyone getting so hung up about our keeper being s**t as well...?? Bit like NOT blaming Prince Andrew for being a NONCE just because there are even bigger Nonces out there...! (PS I dont like to worry you BUT.......im not sure how much longer Hermansen is going to be with us as that boy is Quality? What then...?!? )

Thats a fair point....but as i said, West Ham and Brighton could/should easily have scored 4 or more against us and the reason they didn't was NOT because of our own great defending.....it was more to do with their own dreadful finishing in front of goal!! On Saturday, it was the same defenders just different opposition......and Newcastle didnt make the same mistakes that WHU and BHA did! I have NO issue with anyone who wants to blame Ward.....but if you think Ward is the problem and that by fixing that we'll be OK then i dont think it will be long before you're looking for someone else to blame.....thats all im saying!

there aren't many GKs in the world that would keep a clean sheet with our defence in the PL...!

I have no wish to disagree with anyone who thinks ward is shit as im not really in a position to comment as i havent seen enough of him to pass comment. What i can say is that ANYONE who thinks the 2nd and 3rd goals we conceded on Saturday were any fault of Danny Ward and not the Sunday League Pub standard defending in front of him is absolutely deluded...! I dont think it would have mattered who we had in goal for the 2nd half on Saturday.....it was the defending that cost us and NOT the goalkeeper. We could/should easily have conceded 4 against both West Ham and Brighton if it wasn't for their players not having a clue where the goal was (or Harmensen being the outstanding GK that he is!) so while WARD may not be the answer to our problems....most of our problems will still definitely exist with or without Ward!

"Walking off when substituted" when we're 3-0 down...?!? Not sure id be classing that as a good thing, unless we were already in "damage limitation mode" at that stage...?!? I expect players to walk off slowly when they're substituted if we're 3-0 UP....not when we're 3-0 down.

I seem to recall there WAS allegedly going to be a full review after our relegation season debacle.....dont remember reading anything being said about it since or, more significantly, any notable changes in the senior hierarchy for those involved in all the decision making that led to such a dramatic decline. makes me question why you think JRs position would ever be under review if nothing ever happened after the s**t-show of our relegation fiasco...?!?

Local leicester boy... we released him age 14....signed for Burton for 3 years....next thing, he's signing for Chelsea at 17 and has thus far represented England at U17, U19 and U20 age groups. wonder how Burton/Chelsea managed to see his potential and develop him that quickly in 3 years when we deemed that he wouldn't make it at 14...?!? Interesting....as the reported fee Chelsea paid Burton for him will potentially reach >£1m with sell-on and add-on clauses....! No wonder we dont produce leicester born GKs through our academy system when we dont recognise potential when we see it...!

19 years old when we recruited him from Villa as a free out-of-contract player. Developed in Sweden and then 3 years at AVFC academy Already a well developed GK before we signed him due to personal ties to Ben Petty from his Villa coaching days.

Thanks for the personal comment.....which just shows you for what you are. there are very few examples of players who have developed late on after 18-20 in the academy system as they would normally have been released long before that stage if they had not developed. Those who develop that late have normally come into the game from "outside" the academy system due to real life playing experience. I agree that good coaches try to keep players motivated.....but good coaches also work on continually developing players.....but my post was NOT referring to good coaches....it was referring to inadequate coaches which is why LCFC have a poor record of developing GKs. Is it really just coincidence that the county of Leicestershire has been unable to produce a single professional Goalkeeper in 20 years?? In the real world, if you failed to demonstrate any level of success/competence for a prolonged period, your employers would start to question your capability....not seemingly so with the U23 GK coaches at LCFC Academy which produces international GKs at U16 level.....but nothing beyond that! From memory, The last decent professional GK that came from leicestershire was Chris Kirkland....and he was never at LCFC! I'll let you do the Maths on that one... And if you are correct in your assumption that "no one knows how a player will develope"......what would make any coach better qualified than me or you to make a call on which players should be released and which should be retained?

Highly regarded by WHO?? I've seen several young GKs coming through the Youth system, all of whom were told they were highly rated....but none of them developed beyond 18 as the GK coaching and opportunities beyond that point were very poor (ie Stowell, Thompson, Beaglehole etc...) Sometimes people give kids/parents "false hope" just to keep them motivated and working hard without really knowing how they will develop.....ow worse still, knowing that they have no future beyond 18-20 Varnam, Bramley, Yates, French, Bosworth all went down this same line (and im sure many others too?) and NONE of them are playing at professional level today despite being awarded Pro contracts by LCFC at 18 Jakob Stolarczyk is the only one who may potentially break the mould....but Iversen, who was an outstanding shot-stopper when we signed hi at 18yrs must be pretty p**sed off that Beaglehole just told him to "boot it long" in the 3 years while he played "hoof-ball" for the U23s....and no-one ever worked on improving his distribution and/or foot-skills as it was deemed irrelevant which is the flaw in his game that has now been exposed at the highest level! LCFCs U18-23 Goalkeeping development is very poor....and has been for a very long time! (PS from the age of 12-16, the Academy GK coaches seem to be very good from what ive witnessed!)

Like you, i dont think Rudkin is solely to blame for all the mistakes of the past few seasons.....but he is certainly a big part of it! To say that NOTHING would improve at the club by getting rid of Rudkin is a very naive statement. He is a big part of the problem at many levels so its pretty certain that SOME THINGS would improve if we got rid of him and had a better qualified DoF.. If getting rid of underperforming or inadequate individuals doesn't improve ANYTHING, why would firms ever get rid of people...?!?

personally, i thought we would only have 2 points max at this stage so having 3 is better than i was expecting...! Aside from Spurs (where we could easily have been beaten by H-T!), i haven't seen us play this season so not as well placed as others to comment on quality of play, tactics etc BUT..... with the current group of players we have at our disposal, does anyone really think that we should have any realistic expectations beyond simply managing to stay up??? Avoiding relegation this season will be an achievement for any manager regardless of whether we sack Cooper or not...?

you sense wrong...again.