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100% this. I know we shouldn't harp on the past but going into 66 World Cup it was unthinkable that Jimmy Greaves could be dropped. Slight knock in group match and Geoff Hurst brought in. Hurst had only got his first cap 5 months previous yet Ramsey knew something had to change for the benefit of the team. Fast forward to Southgate and he persists with a struggling Kane when obvious to all that that he dare not drop his big name player despite the issue for the team

So to recap. It is obvious that Kane was not fit but picked anyway. Trippier was played in most games because Shaw not fit. Not sure Shaw is that good anyway but at least he is a left back albeit limited.

There were a number of times when we had a throw in and there was no movement by our players and possession lost.

I think England played too deep all through the tournament

Alf Ramsey told Jack Charlton he wasn't the best player or even best centre half but he had a pattern of play that Jack fitted

England too often static and not playing with enough pace. So many times in space only to stop and play it backwards. It seems obvious that Kane should not have started after the Dutch game

They had won the Euros in 64

And even before my time we did nothing in the days of Finney, Matthews and Lofthouse etc

Yes no sustained performance in any match

Take 66 out of it and we've never been that good

The difference is that for years we had nothing at the top level of club football to enjoy and England took on more importance. The club has sated our desire for at least a while and the disappointment of England is not quite what it was

I think most of us could see Kane either not fit, off form or whatever but Southgate too stubborn

Only because our football is conservative in that sense of word

More like lack of ambition for the country

The Conservatives may have lost the election but the football team still that way inclined

Let's face it not good enough for long enough during the course of the match as a whole.

Chasing shadows

BBC bending over backwards to be fair but sod that

Anybody else would be hooked

Too many 50 50s lost

Far too sluggish

Last thing I want is balance by the BBC to include Juan Mata

I find these Kelly Somers interviews banal

Old father time catching up finally

I really hope so