JonnyZeroFox

I really felt Tuchel was the man… but all those friendlies those games when we didn’t play well.. those people were right not good enough. Going to say it, that performance was worse than anything Southgate put together. Tuchel isn’t the man to inspire this team to change the mentality… I saw against Norway the fear, the sitting back, and they aren’t as good either the ball like Argentina

This needs to stop, it needs to end… it makes us look like cowards and pathetic

We seem that it’s no improvement… and I stand by that Tuchel is more negative than Southgate. We never got outclassed like that

Anyone says that Argentina are so superior that we can’t even step up and get the ball are being stupid.. look Argentina are world class, they are experienced.. let’s face it the last 30 mins felt like non-league team holding on against a pl team in the fa cup..

What I added does.. we bottled it… had the game once we scored and bottled it. Don’t get me wrong they are determined don’t give up, experienced.. but we did bottle it

We will see once Spain spank them. For me we lost to an ageing poor Argentinian side

Not watching this… this wasn’t a team that went out battling, they don’t deserve any support after that, it was pathetic, and they bottled it… total shit.

I can go back to Sven era and the like… as much as we say they failed not once even against Brazil and some world class teams did we get overrun and totally outplayed like tonight

I’m believing not… we will bully teams with individuals but when up against an equal just go into our shell and be pathetic

Can anyone trust Tuchel changes this for euro 28’ it seems even though we were 1 up… Tuchel just accepted his players bottled it… I’m sorry but no ****ing manager does that. It’s 70% Tuchel and 30% players to blame here to be fair

Argentina upped their game fine but we ****ing dropped off and gave them confidence… the same happened against Norway..

with Southgate we never sat that deep, that’s the point… never got dominated with a team having 88% when we scored.. and the teams Southgate got put out by were better

Look it’s the worst performance for a long long time… and Southgate never had us that deep, never

Reacted a manager don’t go more ****ing defensive because his players lost bottle he makes aggressive subs and inspires them ffs

Needed? What he did step up but you mean when we decided to stick eight in the box and give him all the room… blame Kane whatever! It’s pathetic to do so.. Kane would do just as much damage if we are on the front foot.. just not allowed to when the whole team is sitting back

Tuchel did nothing to change it at the hydration break he could have by making more aggressive subs but defenders come on

I don’t know how I feel, I just felt we went backwards from Southgate today not the forward steps we expected under Tuchel. That call to bring defenders on was the worst I have ever seen, even if we somehow seen it out I would be going crazy… we handed Argentina control

I don’t blame the players, not for this… this is on Tuchel you can’t expect players to do everything perfectly every minute when you are just sitting back for 30+ mins and allowing them to stick the ball in the box all the time

Tuchel needs to go simple… it’s the same rubbish but this was worse than Southgate. With Southgate even though we lost I felt we were in those games and not totally totally outclassed like we were in that last 30 mins… that never happened. It was pathetic. The players I can’t blame here, Tuchel made the call to defend by bringing on defenders…

It’s clear Tuchel made the call for us to sit back why else would he bring on defenders

We handed them the game on a plate after going 1 nil up…

Let’s get foden, palmer Trent back in.. get rid of Tuchel and get a manager who isn’t going to sub all the defenders on

Hopefully the last as England manager

Need to get rid of Tuchel before euro 28’ that management, that need to put on all defenders was just ****ing asking for trouble… pathetic

Argentina also scrapped through… but what matters is when 1 up you don’t roll out all your defenders and gift the opposition space ffs