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Could honestly see us going for someone like Des Buckingham (if he wanted to leave the Saudi Pro league). Already worked in a City football group system, got Oxford promoted from League One.

The argument was that he should have had all of this done in March. But he only started at the end of March. It isn’t realistic to expect a full club analysis, a recruitment strategy with player profiles, and a data‑driven managerial shortlist to be completed before he even had access to the club.

I think you've lost the plot here. We're talking about WHY there isn't a manager in place, not about the success of the City Group's approach. Citing McCarron's background is about contextualizing how a managerial decision is made by someone who has worked in that set up and why its not unusual for them to take their time.

Its not a red herring if it explains what they are most likely doing right now. The Athletic has run several pieces in the past where its called City Group the most sophisticated data‑driven football operation in the world. Look its one thing to not like a perspective, its the other to straw man it by saying its a red herring. City group is hugely data driven, and McCarron came from that environment. I think its more than plausible to believe this is why there is a delay. When you say we're just wasting time and every second is wasted you're reacting to the discomfort of not knowing, but you have no concrete evidence to PROVE people at the club are doing nothing. When he was hired, many posters on here suggested that McCarron was brought in for his association with City Group, and they way they operate is data first, add in a total rebuild and its makes more sense why we don't have a manager in place. At the end of the day I don't need you to like my perspective, but its a valid reason why we don't have a manager.

Did we know in March we would be in league one? Did we know in March that we would have to rebuild the squad for league one money? No. Did he know what managers would or would not be available in May? No. And that literally changes everything.

McCarron comes from city group, they use a slower, data-driven process . His job is to literally rebuild the club's playing philosophy from the ground up, identify who needs to stay, who goes, identifying recruitment profiles for league one players, thinking long term about club success and then appointing a manager who can get the job done. He won't be hiring a manager to impose a system on the club, he will be hiring a manager who fits the system he wants, with the player profiles he believes we need to make that system work. And that takes time to get right - to really unpack the data and make decisions. Clubs like Bournemouth have an identity, and a recruitment strategy that's been working, we don't. So its easier for them to make faster decisions and have replacement managers in place: they aren't reinventing their playing identity. McCarron won't be hiring a manager based on vibes or on name recognition. I actually think McCarron's the first real sensible person in our club to get us out of the mess we've been in the last few seasons: hiring on vibes (Ruud) or impulse (Cooper). I totally get the frustration: we don't have time to waste, sure. We also don't have the money to waste on a poor fit, and I'd rather the club take its time to get this right than us start off this season poorly. This is such a big season for us, we need to get this right.

Agree 100% - we aren't at the stage in the summer where we need to be in panic mode. McCarron comes from a city group background, he won't just be pulling a name out of a hat, plus It will be his first real managerial appointment, there is a lot of incentive for his career to get this one right and to use the training he's had with city group to use the data to find a fit across all levels of the club (i.e a long term cultural fit and someone who can get results). That isn't an easy task, so while we haven't heard too much yet, I don't think we are at the point in the summer where it should give us cause for concern. It could be due to a lack of planning - sure, but given McCarron's background it actually reads more like we are doing the right thing for the first time in a long time: trying to get this right, which takes time.

Didn't he argue that he spied because he thought it was something that was done everywhere? Its clearly his MO

I wonder if Mccarron would look at someone like Alexander Blessin at St. Pauli. He could be a sleeper pick. And before anyone knocks him - his overall resume is promising, St. Pauli have one of the smallest budgets in the Bundesliga. Had a great defensive record with St. Pauli last year, has previously won the Belgian league and the cup. He's worked with smaller budgets, thrives in the type of environment Mccarron comes from. He would make us really hard to play against in a physical league.

I think you're making some strong points here. Like you've said, we have to be realistic about the type of manager we would attract. None of them will be a sure bet. Winning in League One is less about tactics and more about creating a team culture that can grind out results, build a team that fights for one another and for the club. I really think Fuchs has that in spades. Captain of Austria, over 400+ games in top level football. He would be an immediate culture reset for us in a good way. Surrounded by some good assistant coaches it could work.

Those are all fair options. I wouldn't be mad if we saw reports linking us with Challinor, Duff or Cleverly. Schreuder could be interesting, of the four you've listed he's by far the one with the riskier style of play. I agree, Fuchs doesn't have the pedigree on coaching merit alone, although he was Dean Smith's assistant manager at Charlotte FC for two years. I just can't help think that the cancer that's set in with this club is about low standards, and lack of grit and fight. Is there a manager who can come in on day one and really shake things up for the better? I do think Fuchs could do that, and that's why its an idea that has grown on me. I want us to win, but I also want to love this club again, and its hard when you see the junk effort being put out on the pitch and the lack of character from the squad. As a follow up: would you have a preference of one of those managers you've listed?

I’m not sure there is one obvious “right” candidate here. A lot of the discussion I’m seeing is focused on who it shouldn’t be, which is fair — but it doesn’t really move us toward a solution. I’d genuinely love to hear your perspective: who do you think would be a good fit? Someone realistic for us to hire by early June, affordable, and capable of leading a proper squad rebuild. Just curious what alternative names you think actually make sense.

The more its discussed the more I like the idea of Fuchs. We need a culture rebuild as much as a squad rebuild. On paper this team should be doing much better, but we don't play on paper and its the mental fitness, the character of the dressing room that has let us down. The grit and determination to take pride in the shirt and for the fans. Fuchs gets that. League One will be less about tactical identity than grit and grinding out results. How many of us have said this club has lost its way? Fuchs is a culture rebuilder, fan-reconnector (not a word - I know). This club are in free fall at the moment, we could benefit from the feel good energy he would bring, and I think he could get us playing well in a league where its not all about tactics, its about the mental and physic strength of the players and the manager. People didn't think too much of Kieran McKenna and now he's the prototype for what a club like Leicester would like to find, that rare diamond in the rough coach who can galvanize a squad and a rebuild the culture around a club without being so dogmatic about football philosophy. He would be cheap, there wouldn't be a long drawn out process to get him (he's on record said its his dream job), and he would give us that immediate jolt we need after a pretty rough 24 month period.

Charlotte FC 2.0? Fuchs was Dean Smith's assistant at Charlotte for two years.

He only sells if he knows he and King Power can't fund a rebuild into the Championship. The club is probably at its lowest valuation point in 12-13 years. No one sells a distressed asset unless they have to or they realize the value will not appreciate anytime soon. He only sells if he can't afford to put the money into the club to get its value back up. I'm of the opinion that he will need to sell a minority share in the club to make it regardless, so I would look for the club to partner with either a private equity group, consortium or wealthy business owner to come in and buy some portion of the club as a minority shareholder this summer. I don't think its a case of if, but when that happens given the financial constraints on the club.

Top will need to find a minority stakeholder to partner with unless he and King Power have more money to directly sink into the club.

I'm at the point where I just want the season to be over. There's no point holding onto hope that we will escape the drop. I want something to get excited about - the reality of dropping into League One is a sword of Damocles hanging over us - its inevitable. Would rather forfeit the remaining games and just start thinking about the summer rebuild early. I just can't keep watching these sorry performances.

Its over and the sooner we accept it the better. We're down. This one will hurt for a long time but for the health of this fanbase we need to go ahead and call time on this season. Coulda woulda shoulda, we hung on to Cifuentes too long and recruited poorly. Every aspect of this season has been shambolic, from recruitment, manager selection, everything. Its just not healthy believing that there is anything left in this season for us. I've never seen a group of players who just can't seem to find the back of the net. I thought we played well for large parts of this game, but sometimes you just feel like its destiny for us to go down - we flew too close to the sun, and now its time to be humbled. I hate this.

The biggest factor me is that most of the club’s major liabilities are to King Power, and owner‑funded debt behaves very differently from external bank debt. That doesn’t mean everything is fine, but it does mean administration isn’t an automatic or imminent outcome unless King Power stop funding the club altogether. So for me, it’s fair to say the situation is serious, but the more catastrophic interpretations go beyond what the available facts can support right now. As for KP not funding the club and choosing to let it it go into administration, that would mean losing equity in the club and control of the club and no rational owner chooses that outcome. At worst they would get the club into a situation where its attractive to a buyer and sell the club. Letting a club go into administration would not be in the interest of King Power at all. Lastly, if creditors weren't being paid you would hear about it through the news media. Leicester's downfall is hot sports news, so I'm sure people have gone digging. Charlie is making us sound like we are Sheffield Wednesday 2.0 - unpaid tax, unpaid wages, inability to meet basic obligations. We are far from that. If were anywhere close you would know it by now.

While I don't want to diminish the financial stress the club are in, I think the view expressed by Charlie in both videos is heavy handed. We are a financially stressed club, no doubt, but most of our debt is owned by King Power, not outside banks and that plays a big factor here, and changes our risk profile completely. If we owed a lot of money to outside banks then yes, relegation would be dangerous, but the things Charlie points out: taking out loans against parachute payments, transfers etc is normal. The only way the club goes into administration is if King Power cannot pay the club's bills as they fall due. We haven't seen strong signs that's the case. He brings up paying staff late in December, but paying wages early in December is a courtesy, not an obligation. If this club were as bad as he indicates we would see bigger red flags: short-term emergency loans, not paying transfer wages, and other bigger signs that there are insolvency issues. And this is why there isn't strong reporting on it, there aren't clear and obvious signs to back up a claim that King Power are insolvent. Relegation to League One would be bad for the club - it would reduce revenue and put more on the owners to finance club operations, but it wouldn't automatically place us in administration. This is one of those things that sounds good for a podcast to get listeners, and bears some truth, but is a bit heavy handed.

Given where we are, and how bad this season's been, I'll take him. I'm over the tippy-tappy football idealism. This team has been spineless for too long and needs someone like Gary to help us grind out the important games coming up. Buzzing to have a manager who can put some fight back in this team.

Think he's a good fit for where the club and the squad are right now. We may have had other options we were exploring, but those were before we lost three in a row and that shocking Saints loss. This club and this squad are on emergency room table. Rowett can triage the damage. He's not the long term answer, but without a technical director we were never going to be successful at appointing a long term option anyway. If he can help us survive this season I think we need to get Speakman in as technical director over the summer and rebuild from there with new owners.

King Power have created a situation where our options are far more limited than they should be. If they’d moved on from Marti earlier and had a technical director in place, we wouldn’t be 20+ days without a manager. The delay is just a symptom of the wider chaos caused by a board with obvious structural issues. No technical director, no CEO, points deductions, and an owner who seems incompetent, indecisive, or some mix of both — it’s not exactly an appealing setup for any manager. On Pearson: he’s one of the few who could come in with enough authority to cut through the mess and force some accountability. But that’s also why I doubt they’d choose him. Bringing in someone who demands standards only works if the people above him actually want to meet them.

Feel like this is a no brainer. I would imagine that a lack of a technical director is complicating us hiring a good managerial candidate. Who wants to come in knowing that their immediate boss and a big part of how they will shape the club hasn't been hired?

Really hope fans in the stands for the next match are vocal if a manager has not been appointed by the end of the week. This level of neglect is unacceptable. No manager, no technical director, no CEO. For me the lack of a manager doesn't read as incompetence as much as total neglect. This is not a proactive club, its a reactive, knee-jerk club. Everything is last minute, slap-dash. The kit and kit sponsor, took ages. Managerial appointment going on 18 days. A technical director candidate was mentioned and now that's fizzled out. Absolute dumpster fire of a club.