CarolinaFox

No. Beating a side with such little confidence doesn't suddenly make us promotion candidates. Didn't see any clear idea from Marti in the first half. His substitutions clearly impacted a poor tactical approach from the first half. He will need to use this momentum. He needs to win against Stoke and Southampton to prove he's the man for the job.

To get the best from Daka we need another striker dropping deep to create channels for Daka. Actually think Marti might be making the right call here to partner Daka and Ayew. Ayew playing like a false 9 could work with Daka.

Don’t see Dean leaving Charlotte FC, my hometown club. His son lives here and his team is doing really well. Plus he’s a big golf guy so I think he’s staying put. We love him here. But I agree with the idea: we need that type of manager for sure!

Appointing Marti this summer was a calculated risk, and at the time the thought was that a manager with a progressive style of play similar to Enzo might be the best fit for us. He was either going to be Enzo 2.0 or RVN 2.0, and I think we know which one he's become. A manager who can't deal with the obvious limitations of the squad. This club has lost all of its credibility with its fan base. It doesn't have the trust capital to make the same type of gamble with a replacement. Its time to go out and get a manager with promotion experience or significant experience of success in the championship. I'm over the whole "progressive" manager thing. We keep going after managers that have a percieved high talent ceiling or who could be the next big thing, but I'd be okay with a steady hand who can get us scoring again more than one goal a game.

The Norwich game is now a must win for Marti to prove he can get a tune out of the players. If we tie or lose to Norwich he has to go. I’d be on the phone already to potential replacements, David Wagner being one of them. We need someone who knows how to win in this league. Forget the premier league right now, we need proven leadership. There is a lot of football left in this season. We can turn things around but a loss or tie to Norwich says to me that Marti isn’t the one who can do that. If as others have mentioned, promotion is the only way to save this clubs immediate future we have to be ruthless about finding someone who gives us a chance to get promoted.

Fatawu always plays with passion gives it everything he has on the pitch. It’s not his fault Marti has no answer for teams that play smart and take him out of the game.

Agreed. Marti’s inability to see this and do something about it tactically is the real issue here.

Wagner knows the championship and is currently the academy manager for RB Leipzig. Worth a look?

I think its basically down to Marti doesn't know how to win with this team. He can't coach them to win because he doesn't have an idea what to do.

I'm thinking at half time he's going to put on Mavidivi and go for a second goal, or at least make changes early in the 2nd half to impact the game. Nope. Too complacent to be okay with one goal, which is a major theme with Marti. When you have a team on the ropes you need to bury the game, come out of the gate swinging, high tempo getting the crowd behind you. Football is a game of momentum, use it Marti! Instead we get overly pessimistic defensive football trying to hold on to a lead at home. I'd rather lose going for the game, pushing for a second goal and imposing our style of play on the game. But I couldn't honestly tell you what that style is.

Marti being overly cautious and pessimistic in his substitutions. To be fair without the penalty we didn't look capable of scoring anything. Has to go in my opinion.

I doubt Skipp really cost us what most people think. Sure the sticker price was in that ballpark, but Tottenham owed us for Maddison. Seems the most likely scenario is that the sale of Skipp offset the remaining debt on the Maddison deal and was left at sticker price to help Tottenham clear any PSR hurdles and make their books look as good as possible as he was an academy profit and any sale would be pure profit against PSR. Skipp is clearly a Cooper backed signing which is why we probably initiated going after him and Tottenham suggested that it cover the Maddison debt. If Skipp has such a long contract with us he actually becomes more of a value asset than some of the other players on this list with one or no years left. Not saying I think he’s the second coming of Kante, he isn’t. And not saying I feel confident in his ability. I don’t. But I think the narrative around his cost to the club needs a bit more perspective.

Even if the problem weren't how woeful our defense is, Cifuentes is playing one dimensional football. Every game is the same: Create width, get it to Fatawu, hope he can either score by cutting inside and scoring from outside the box, or have him cross the ball into the box hoping to find Caranza or Daka. I just think the idea of possession-based football isn't working. What's the point of possessing the ball if you never score? Or if you possess it just to go to the same outlet (Fatawu) who can be easily double-teamed? Insanity is doing the same thing again and again expecting different results.

Lots of knee jerk cynicism in response to this question. Is it possible? After seeing a team with Vardy, Barnes, Tielemans, and Maddison get relegated - anything is possible. But is it likely? I don't think it is. I think if we continue with Marti and don't heavily support his vision in January we will finish mid table, below the playoff spots. We are definitely at the point in the season where we have to try something different because the approach being used right now is not working. Its very apparent that Marti has been found out.

Actually only half joking. At the time I was not a fan but I think time has shown that our success after him was due in part to the foundations he established. I always love a redemption story.

Claude Puel anyone...anyone

The squad is an issue. Last time in the Championship we had KDH and Vardy who combined for 30 goals together. We are missing true goalscorers. Daka and Caranza look useless. Ayew is not a goal machine. We simply don't have the goals in the squad. However, with that being said, there is either a lack of backbone, confidence or belief in this squad that is down to Marti. He either can't get them to see how they can win in his system, or his system doesn't suit the players he has, and he needs to make a change and fast. Overall Marti's approach is so predictable, I watch each game and its always about getting the ball out wide, trying to come in, it's just not working, we need to be faster in transition and more direct.

Ange Ball here we come...just kidding. Maybe?

I like Marti, however, I think the burden of proof is on whether or not there is any evidence suggesting that we should keep him going forward. Its not the other way around. His approach is not working. We are slowly sliding down the table into a place that is going to be hard to come back from if something doesn't change. I would genuinely love to hear people's thoughts on the evidence why he should be kept if that's what you think - because I think the stats and the performances don't back up him staying as our manager.

Agreed. He's thrown all of this cards on the table, this is the best lineup we have. This is Marti trying to save face.

Agreed. I think its academic now. As much as I hate it, they are the best side in the Championship right now. I wish Leicester had just some of the confidence in front of goal they have.

Does it though? I get that the buck stops with the owners but they have paid a manager to do a job, he needs to do that job. Marti has a much more direct impact on the team performance than the owner. Indirect, sure. But Top isn't the one making the lineup choices.

Agreed. The physicality of prime time Ndidi is something we are missing in our midfield. Someone who can almost cover for the back line and give them that extra bit of protection. I'm glad that Cifuentes sees that there are some footballing basics that are being missed by this group, but he needs to do something about it to hold credibility in my book. Honestly think its a case of you can't teach old dogs new tricks. We need to vet the younger players - they are blank canvas for the footballing philosophy Cifuentes wants. I wouldn't mind us finishing midtable if it was with a group of younger players, building experience, developing a philosophy and a style of play, and giving our team character. We are the most character-less football squad. Vanilla ice cream literally has more character.

He needs to play our younger players. Would rather fail to get promoted playing our younger upcoming talents and get them experience than relive last season just in the championship. His achilles heel is that he’s so afraid to lose that he starts “experience” over potential and yet it’s the very thing that leads to us losing, cause let’s be fair a draw is a loss of points its not a win. He either pivots and starts playing young players or his days are numbered at the club bc I think most of us are sick of what we see on the pitch.

Agreed. Maybe not his job, but his reputation with the fan base. Its games like these where you see promotion slowly slipping away and he's starting Ayew, Faes, Daka and Choudhury.