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So is uploading legal photos of someone on Facebook or Bluesky or TikTok without their consent but everyone does it. N.b. I'm against what is happening, but I still don't think it's proportional, no other social media platforms are banner for distributing images of people uploaded without their consent.

He's lucky Stephen is around otherwise he'd comfortably the worst dressed player of the lot. Although fainting goat Jessie is up there too.

They are, as lots of tech are linked in terms of utility across the internet. To clarify, I don't agree with Grok being able to strip people, although some other LLMs go too far, for example DALL-E refused to add a hat to a photo one of my friends as it just refused to work with pictures of people. Grok's image generator needs boundaries adding. It's a Grok problem, though, not an X problem. So, for me, banning X is not a proportional response.

From the BBC I genuinely read that initially as

That's pretty universal on Traitors, this is the 11th season I've watched and every other set of players do the same. He coughed when Claudia said "good morning" so he must be a traitor.

Sure, that it's not factually correct to say that X and Grok are the same thing.

It's an X account with hooks to tie into a chatbot - there are literally thousands of bots doing exactly the same thing many powered by ChatGPT. I assume by the same logic you think Midjourney and Discord are the same thing?

I think the reason trades have become more to the right is because they are self-employed for the most part. And most self-employed people and business owners tend to object to the massive amount of tax they pay to fund things they don't agree with. Some of the most left wing people I have met and know just live off benefits and have never worked a day in their life, and it's obvious to see why they lean left. Likewise the opposite is true. X and Grok are not the same thing, one is a social media platform the other is a chatbot and LLM powered by xAI. Twitter doesn't exist, since 2023.

Still one of the best times in human history to be alive. At least you didn’t die at 20 from tooth infection or childbirth or have Norse raiders kill your family and livestock.

Up there with legitimate criticisms of Islam being criticised as islamaphobia.

I'm still annoyed at the theft of Greenland by Denmark from the Palaeo-Inuits

I said this earlier and was mocked and everything deleted by mods. Good luck!

See also: Boko Haram insurgency in Nigeria.

"PC Mitchell was jailed for life and sentenced to serve at least 13 years after he was found guilty of kidnapping and rape." Doesn't sound like our culture accepted his behaviour as OK, jail for life is a good measure for such awful crimes. As a reminder on some other cultures, three quick examples: some execute women for the crime of being raped; some allow rape trades, for example if someone rapes your sister you can rape theirs to call things even; some burn women alive when their husband die. All equal to a culture with a justice system that punishes misogynistic crimes? According to some on this thread - yes.

We do, though, the UK obsesses over Palestine, we even have huge amounts of people advocating for the release of terrorists involved with the assault with a sledge hammer on a police officer "because Palestine". At the same time we literally don't give a passing thought to: the Boko Haram insurgency in Nigeria (>2m displaced and killed), Sudanese civil war (>10m displaced, ~20m starving), DRC conflict (7m displaced, 25m starving, huge disease outbreaks), Myanmar coup and civil bar (90k deaths, villages regularly burned), ISIS insurgency in Sahel (3m displayed), widespread gang violence in Haiti (1.5m displaced, 6m starving, child recruitment), Yemen, etc etc I could go on.

Exactly. "Do X for all I care" is not equivalent to "I urge people to do X".

General musing. Why are people so interested (I am guilty of this too from time to time) about things going on thousands of miles away. We have plenty of our own problems, and while some things may affect the international stage, many do not, yet as a nation we seem obsessed with the USA and the middle east.

You’re an intelligent person, you know full well saying “I couldn’t care if” is not equivalent to urging or inciting. She also took down the tweet within hours and was not in a good headspace at the time. I’m not excusing the content, it’s not something I would write, but a 3 year sentence for that when we have people being complete let off for raping children and women because they didn’t know better is the disparity in the justice system @Tommy G was highlighting.

Connolly wasn’t urging anything. Dishonest revisionism.

I have seen the video and she wasn't trying to run over anyone, she was just driving away, she wasn't near the person she was allegedly trying to run over, her wheels were in the complete opposite direction. Obviously there is more context, was she agitating, did she seem nuts, should she have fled a law enforcement officer etc. But fact is, she should not have been killed by a police office/jury/judge/executioner for that level of "crime", or any level.

The problem is that not everyone will be benevolent and share those same views, some will do whatever they want to exploit the passive of others. We see this all the time now our own society has transitioned to a low-trust individualist society. If you've read the The Selfish Gene by Dawkins it explains well why you can never have a society as you describe.

The flaw in your logic, to me, is to assume that if all cultures are equal it therefore follows that it is the right thing to treat all the same, and treat well, with no changes needed for the global good. Let me use a silly example, but the point holds. The pirate culture steals from and unalives people on the open seas. But as a culture the pirate culture is equal to all others and we must be benevolent towards them and ensure we are not piratephobic, this allows pirates to preserve their equally valid culture and continue unaliving and stealing from people of other cultures. *Excuse the infantile TikTok language, either I'm banned again from replying or my language us flagging things

That's a broader argument on subjective VS objective morality. I don't think people will ever agree which is the correct one there. Considering historic actions that are no longer part of a culture is fallacious and irrelevant for any current comparison of cultures. As a side note, I find it curious how, particularly on the left, usually only the bad parts of history for British and Western civilisations are considered and not the good. I think you have tangled yourself three, I haven't denied culture inequality, I am a proponent for the argument of cultural inequality. it is you who are denying cultural inequality.

Fortunately I don’t think all cultures are equal so no paradoxes or constant mental gymnastics for me, but it must be tricky trying to work around the cognitive dissonance.

So the gun culture is a problem because the culture that has that gun culture considers itself superior but is in fact equal. If they considered themself equal it would be fine and a culture of police executing citizens without a trial is equal to all other cultures still. Got it.