Andys on bail......

[Guest]

You are not responsible for the rest of the group. I'm sure there's a way you could have got off.

[Ric Flair]

I've just read what you put, but ive just got back from court so i didnt read that before i went

Anyway the woman asked if i was guilty for not gettin out of the city centre in the time the police had given us, so i said yes i was guilty but i told them of the fact about not having enough money to get home without my mates, not causing any trouble to be told to get out in the first place... and the guy said who was the guy asking the questions in the court room, said he understood what i was saying but because i was part of a group that had commited the offence i was responsible for them aswell. So in the end they just gave us all a 35 quid fine but its on our record so ive got a criminal record now for fack all <_<

Why didn't you plead not guilty? You weren't guilty of anything as you didn't commit a crime in the first place. If you plead guilty then your never going to get off scott free are you? Very silly if you ask me.

[Rincewind]

It's the way the question was asked ' Do you plead guilty of not getting out of the City centre in the time given by the police officers'

Well he is. But his lawer should have pointed out the mitigating circumstanced. At the second time Andy was seen he was trying to pursuade his mates to leave as well. They said he was responsible for them as well and he was showing responsibility for them by doing this.

I know it's only a small fine Andy but I would consider writing to the Magistrates court saying that you feel that to have a crimminal record for something that was unavoidable is a bit harsh. Plus you were doing what you thought was right by trying to get your mates to leave the area as well. I would not let this rest. It is not the fine that matters but the record which could affect future job applications.

[andy_croydz]

It's the way the question was asked ' Do you plead guilty of not getting out of the City centre in the time given by the police officers'

Well he is. But his lawer should have pointed out the mitigating circumstanced. At the second time Andy was seen he was trying to pursuade his mates to leave as well. They said he was responsible for them as well and he was showing responsibility for them by doing this.

I know it's only a small fine Andy but I would consider writing to the Magistrates court saying that you feel that to have a crimminal record for something that was unavoidable is a bit harsh. Plus you were doing what you thought was right by trying to get your mates to leave the area as well. I would not let this rest. It is not the fine that matters but the record which could affect future job applications.

Yes you have got a point ill see what i can do