Gamesmaster Posted 20 August 2006 Posted 20 August 2006 i think it was you who have used the term "bliar" , if not i apologise to you but it has been used by many of your ilk I said it. It is true, he is a liar, a dirty stinking foreign liar, who should be hung for MASS murder, and putting the lives of innocent English soilders at unecessary risk. Do you have family or friends in this war, on the frontline? I do, and its not funny tunning into the latest news bulletin. You sometimes dread getting a message from a family member. The phone rings, and a familiar voice starts to speak and you fear what might be coming. Its a natural human reaction to address a fear put into you by a bunch of cowards claiming to be the voice of democracy.
golden gordon Posted 20 August 2006 Posted 20 August 2006 You were badly intolerant of people you dont know. can you give me a number percentagedly how much you trust this government? and/or give me general examples of say morality? I just wana show how much your trust is to you and everyone, and see if it produces a good enough reason to trust them via the i.d card scam. How much would you say is too much to pay for an i.d card? "anti-i.d card protesters may not be wrong"...so theres 50%? doubt about the possible success rate in the scheme? How would anti-i.d card protestors be wrong? If you honestly believe in "this" democratic system, then surely we deserve the human right to vote on such tactics that will invade our lives unecessarilly? We have the choice to take part in credit card and passport systems. Why are we wrong to insist on the same behaviour? Forcing us to withdraw some of our liberty, is a government that believes in fascism, not tolerance, and certainly not democracy, and you are on their side. Your last point is a joke my friend. You want to give them what they consider fiiting measures to avoid further attrocities, that they encourage. Do you not see, that that is like saying the blind is capable of leading the blind into darkness? If they say jump, you expect us to ask how high? i've told you again and again i don't trust the gov. totally; but why should i trust this faceless army of friends you keep harping on about , who are they? what do they stand for? , please give me a clue as to what they believe to be the way forward in the fight against terror? and by the way a 50% chance of success rate in preventing a terror attack is better than nothing
Head Honcho Posted 20 August 2006 Posted 20 August 2006 I said it. It is true, he is a liar, a dirty stinking foreign liar, who should be hung for MASS murder, and putting the lives of innocent English soilders at unecessary risk. Do you have family or friends in this war, on the frontline? I do , and its not funny tunning into the latest news bulletin. You sometimes dread getting a message from a family member. The phone rings, and a familiar voice starts to speak and you fear what might be coming. Its a natural human reaction to address a fear put into you by a bunch of cowards claiming to be the voice of democracy. I'm afraid whoever you are referring to took the queens shilling and now it's payback time! You can't join the forces and as soon as it kicks off decide you don't want to play soldiers anymore! Our armed forces are very well paid and when the call up comes they should honour it and not start moaning or get their relatives to start moaning for them!
stez Posted 20 August 2006 Posted 20 August 2006 I'm afraid whoever you are referring to took the queens shilling and now it's payback time! You can't join the forces and as soon as it kicks off decide you don't want to play soldiers anymore! Our armed forces are very well paid and when the call up comes they should honour it and not start moaning or get their relatives to start moaning for them! i'm sure GG can answer for himself, but i don't think he mentioned the person who is in the army is moaning about it, its the people at home worrying about them.
Head Honcho Posted 20 August 2006 Posted 20 August 2006 i'm sure GG can answer for himself, but i don't think he mentioned the person who is in the army is moaning about it, its the people at home worrying about them. Well if he's not worried then they shouldn't be!
Gamesmaster Posted 20 August 2006 Posted 20 August 2006 i've told you again and again i don't trust the gov.totally; and by the way a 50% chance of success rate in preventing a terror attack is better than nothing Gosh struth you trust the government too much, fact, stop pretending your not on the side of fascist ideology, hellfire you even spoke fascism. 50% is something, but it isnt good enough. You have to aim for 100%. Be no good rob kelly saying, hey lads, 50% success rate aint bad, hard luck, we''l try better next year, its gota be 100% you aim for. can you give me a number percentagedly how much you trust this government? and/or give me general examples of say morality? How much would you say is too much to pay for an i.d card?
golden gordon Posted 20 August 2006 Posted 20 August 2006 I said it. It is true, he is a liar, a dirty stinking foreign liar, who should be hung for MASS murder, and putting the lives of innocent English soilders at unecessary risk. Do you have family or friends in this war, on the frontline? I do, and its not funny tunning into the latest news bulletin. You sometimes dread getting a message from a family member. The phone rings, and a familiar voice starts to speak and you fear what might be coming. Its a natural human reaction to address a fear put into you by a bunch of cowards claiming to be the voice of democracy. i am sorry that you have family and friends involved in this war , but i too have 2 very close family members in basra. and although they do not wish to be there and question many things , they are also aware of the atrocities committed by the previous regime. many people questioned the decision to declare war on germany and bemoaned loss of british lives in the 2nd world war ( i lost 3 uncles and 2 returned from jap POW camps completely broken men) so please don't think i live in an ivory tower yes it is a natural human reaction to address the fears caused by war in many ways but sometimes sacrifices are made by the few for the greater good of the many and i hope your family/friends return safe and well however evil stalks the earth in many forms and we have to thank our ancestors in earlier conflicts that have allowed us to lead the lives we now do, albeit not perfect
Gamesmaster Posted 20 August 2006 Posted 20 August 2006 I'm afraid whoever you are referring to took the queens shilling and now it's payback time! You can't join the forces and as soon as it kicks off decide you don't want to play soldiers anymore! Our armed forces are very well paid and when the call up comes they should honour it and not start moaning or get their relatives to start moaning for them! Thats fine, but an illegal war, when the prime minister told us all lies, come on, get a grip here.
golden gordon Posted 20 August 2006 Posted 20 August 2006 Gosh struth you trust the government too much, fact, stop pretending your not on the side of fascist ideology, hellfire you even spoke fascism. 50% is something, but it isnt good enough. You have to aim for 100%. Be no good rob kelly saying, hey lads, 50% success rate aint bad, hard luck, we''l try better next year, its gota be 100% you aim for. can you give me a number percentagedly how much you trust this government? and/or give me general examples of say morality? How much would you say is too much to pay for an i.d card? why are you so obsessed with me plucking a purely arbitary % figure out of the air ? what difference does it make. ok i trust the gov 96.376 recurring % , are you happy now i've given you a number to chew on? are you going to be a beancounter or something?
Gamesmaster Posted 20 August 2006 Posted 20 August 2006 however evil stalks the earth in many forms and we have to thank our ancestors in earlier conflicts that have allowed us to lead the lives we now do, albeit not perfect But who's going to save us from the tyranny of new labour?
Gamesmaster Posted 20 August 2006 Posted 20 August 2006 ok i trust the gov 96.376 recurring % , are you happy now i've given you a number to chew on? How much percentagedly do you trust people you know well, like family and friends? How much would you say is too much to pay for an i.d card?
golden gordon Posted 20 August 2006 Posted 20 August 2006 But who's going to save us from the tyranny of new labour? you and the rest of the electorate at the next general election, its called democracy , a very hard fought for right in our lives , please make the best use of it
stez Posted 20 August 2006 Posted 20 August 2006 Well if he's not worried then they shouldn't be! harsh! i would support any reletive of mine who wanted to join up, but it wouldn't stop me worrying if it kicked off, or if they were in a rag sided land rover when road-side bomb are being planted.
golden gordon Posted 20 August 2006 Posted 20 August 2006 How much percentagedly do you trust people you know well, like family and friends? How much would you say is too much to pay for an i.d card? 80% £93 : 8 shillings and fourpence
Gamesmaster Posted 20 August 2006 Posted 20 August 2006 you and the rest of the electorate at the next general election, its called democracy , a very hard fought for right in our lives , please make the best use of it Correct, but in the meantime, the ilegal war should be stopped, new labour should be stopped and be took to court. We should have had another general election the moment new labour decided to murder innocent people after the last election.
golden gordon Posted 20 August 2006 Posted 20 August 2006 Correct, but in the meantime, the ilegal war should be stopped, new labour should be stopped and be took to court. We should have had another general election the moment new labour decided to murder innocent people after the last election. i agree , ALL WARS should be stopped , unfortunately power crazed gangs of thugs are roaming that particular area preventing the peaceful democratic transition
Gamesmaster Posted 20 August 2006 Posted 20 August 2006 80% £93 : 8 shillings and fourpence You trust a bunch of politicians more than people you know well? You dont mind paying £93 so the government can keep tabs on you, know alot of what you do with your life you must be submissive in bed do you get whipped alot.... You know thats the estimated bill structure per person. But will it cost even more than this extortionate sum of £5.8 Billion? Nearly £50M, and its not even started yet. £500 to produce each card? What would you rather our government do, spend thirty billion on some plastic cards to watch over us, or use that money on defending us from criminals, better NHS, better schooling etc etc etc etc etc?
Head Honcho Posted 20 August 2006 Posted 20 August 2006 Thats fine, but an illegal war, when the prime minister told us all lies, come on, get a grip here. There's nothing illegal about a war on terrorism!
Gamesmaster Posted 20 August 2006 Posted 20 August 2006 i agree , ALL WARS should be stopped , unfortunately power crazed gangs of thugs are roaming that particular area preventing the peaceful democratic transition "all wars should be stopped", but you support new labour... There wouldn't be crazed gangs had new labour and their conservative mates not wanted to invade a foreign country ilegally. Why cant you get that into your head?
Gamesmaster Posted 20 August 2006 Posted 20 August 2006 There's nothing illegal about a war on terrorism! What terrorism did iraqis pose us??
golden gordon Posted 20 August 2006 Posted 20 August 2006 "all wars should be stopped", but you support new labour... There wouldn't be crazed gangs had new labour and their conservative mates not wanted to invade a foreign country ilegally. Why cant you get that into your head? yes of course you are quite correct , iraq was a peaceful heaven on earth until tony and george threw a spanner in the works, they just don't know when to leave things alone do they
Gamesmaster Posted 20 August 2006 Posted 20 August 2006 yes of course you are quite correct , iraq was a peaceful heaven on earth until tony and george threw a spanner in the works, they just don't know when to leave things alone do they Your not one to be taken seriously at all. What do your closest family and friends think about you trusting a bunch of criminals in which you have little relationships with, more than them?
golden gordon Posted 20 August 2006 Posted 20 August 2006 Your not one to be taken seriously at all. What do your closest family and friends think about you trusting a bunch of criminals in which you have little relationships with, more than them? how can i trust my family and friends ? they hold views very similar to me and by your astute deductions they must be a bunch of fascists
Gamesmaster Posted 20 August 2006 Posted 20 August 2006 how can i trust my family and friends ? they hold views very similar to me and by your astute deductions they must be a bunch of fascists Im afraid your stuck with family, but you could get some new friends? Why do you trust people you know less (new labour fascists) more than your family and friends?
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